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Wait since when does the mistress not take up a spot?

Rynner wrote:
Wait since when does the mistress not take up a spot?

If you have repentia, she doesn't.

Mistress of the Penitent: If your army is Battle-forged,
this model does not take up slots in a Detachment that
includes any <ORDER> REPENTIA SQUAD units.

Yeah I thought it was only with repentia then I was like wait - my LVO is Illegal.

Thanks.

Rynner wrote:
Yeah I thought it was only with repentia then I was like wait - my LVO is Illegal.

Thanks.

I ran over to check my current list to make sure I had enough elites as well. lol

You going to LVO pretre?

 deviantduck wrote:
You going to LVO pretre?

Hah, no. Kids.

Anyone want to do a Sisters Dakka Meet Up at LVO?

Rynner wrote:
Anyone want to do a Sisters Dakka Meet Up at LVO?

3rd time's a charm? We failed at adepticon and I had to last minute skip Siegeworld in STL last year. So I already owe you two beers.

Eh things happen but we really should try to plan an Sisters Dakka meet up.

Heading into a game tomorrow, opponent unknown. I'll take two Battalions and a Vanguard, with a Celestine Cathedral on the march with stormbolters, a double Exorcist Castle, triple melta Doms in Immos, and a Rhino packed with Bloody Rose.

I got these girls remounted on custom flight bases (cork, grit, and acrylic rod, details in P&M Blog) just in time.

 MacPhail wrote:
Heading into a game tomorrow, opponent unknown. I'll take two Battalions and a Vanguard, with a Celestine Cathedral on the march with stormbolters, a double Exorcist Castle, triple melta Doms in Immos, and a Rhino packed with Bloody Rose.

I got these girls remounted on custom flight bases (cork, grit, and acrylic rod, details in P&M Blog) just in time.

Nice. Let us know how it goes. My first outing is next weekend at a 3 game store RTT.

Good luck - tell us how it went and feedback to GW!

I drew our resident Tyranid player as my opponent... he has probably 6000 points of beautifully painted bugs and can field just about any list. He usually goes for Wall o' Gribblies or Nidzilla, but today he went extremely shooty: 3x20 Termagants, 2x Tervigons, 2x Exocrines, 2x3 Biovores, 2x3 Tyranid Warriors, 2x Neurothropes, Tyranid Prime, 3x Ripper Swarms, and 2x Sporocysts. I took a Turn 4 loss... he was up on points due to a few favorable twists on the Maelstrom deck, he was up on models in part due to some very close shooting rounds, and he was up on board control due to some poor deployment choices on my part. My opponent played an excellent game... he had very effective screens I couldn't take down and big guns I couldn't touch at long range, and he played his Maelstrom cards well while mine left me hanging.

Biggest mistake on my part: I stranded my Celestine Cathedral on the upper deck of a big gantry network and they never really advanced into rapid fire range. I really missed those extra bolter dice over three turns... ours is not a static gunline army and when I realized I needed a big push into the middle of the board, the terrain didn't favor it. I also whiffed on a couple of objectives... left myself more than 3" away from one, and chose to ignore another one in favor of dropping a big bug. I also held back on the melta Doms Vanguard rush, instead keeping them in the buff aura, and left the Seraphim off the board until T3, losing a round of shooting in the process. I forgot a few important rule synergies, but got good use from the go-to stratagems.

My Exorcist dice ran really hot, but my Immolator dice were abysmal... probably a wash overall. I had a few shooting phases come so close... I had one turn end with both Tervigons down to a wound or two, but couldn't keep them from sticking around, healing, and spawning. By the time I took out both Tervigons and most of the Termigants off the board, the Exocrines were having their way with me and the Sprocysts and Biovores were spamming mortal woulds like crazy... my threat assessment and target prority were way off. I wasted the Bloody Rose mechanized melee bomb by driving it the long way around and eventually trading it for a squad of Biovores, and to add insult to injury, he held two Tactical Objectives about killing Characters when I dropped off three of them at his doorstep.

All in all, not my best game... The cards and the dice were hard on me, I made some serious priority errors, I played a much too static game, and I was taken aback at how hard those spore mines hit with mortal wounds.

 MacPhail wrote:
All in all, not my best game... The cards and the dice were hard on me, I made some serious priority errors, I played a much too static game, and I was taken aback at how hard those spore mines hit with mortal wounds.

The aura buff seems like such a great thing. Honestly though, taking an army that has always been forced to move fast to get its weapons in range and putting an anchor on them for some relative safety is a trap. The 4++ castle is nice for our vehicles in deployment but if you have anything but Rets and Exo's sitting within that castle after your first movement phase with your entire army is putting yourself in chains.

Looks to me like the new Beta Bolter rules for Space Marines (& Chaos varieties) are one way to distinguish Sisters and Marines even further.

Good thing that after a couple of months most Marine players will assume it applies to everyone shooting a bolter and not just Spess Muhreenz.

EDIT: The update would be nice on battle sisters but it's not amazing either way.

Let me know how the rule plays out on the tabletop. I'm not going to be using it in my games.

Rynner wrote:
EDIT: The update would be nice on battle sisters but it's not amazing either way.

It would be pretty amazing. Throwing the amount of bolter shots we do from 24" would be fantastic.

Also, I played a game against Orks Sunday and used Sacred Rose. There is no going back. The 5+ overwatch is amazing. I had a squad of Doms get assaulted by 8 tank bustas and I killed 7 in overwatch. Then punched the last one to death.

It was glorious.

Another note: Anyone in here order the $60 limited edition Celestine book? I hate money, so I was considering it.

 deviantduck wrote:
Also, I played a game against Orks Sunday and used Sacred Rose. There is no going back. The 5+ overwatch is amazing. I had a squad of Doms get assaulted by 8 tank bustas and I killed 7 in overwatch. Then punched the last one to death.

It was glorious.

Another note: Anyone in here order the $60 limited edition Celestine book? I hate money, so I was considering it.

I'm actually debating swapping from BR to SR due to the overwatch. Too bad I have to marry an LVO list in 3 days.

It is a very good Conviction

 dracpanzer wrote:

 MacPhail wrote:
All in all, not my best game... The cards and the dice were hard on me, I made some serious priority errors, I played a much too static game, and I was taken aback at how hard those spore mines hit with mortal wounds.

The aura buff seems like such a great thing. Honestly though, taking an army that has always been forced to move fast to get its weapons in range and putting an anchor on them for some relative safety is a trap. The 4++ castle is nice for our vehicles in deployment but if you have anything but Rets and Exo's sitting within that castle after your first movement phase with your entire army is putting yourself in chains.

Yep, that sounds exactly right... I gave in to some juicy looking terrain and castled myself up-- had he been playing melee bugs I'd have been in a great place-- and I locked away a pretty good battle plan in the process.


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 deviantduck wrote:
Also, I played a game against Orks Sunday and used Sacred Rose. There is no going back. The 5+ overwatch is amazing. I had a squad of Doms get assaulted by 8 tank bustas and I killed 7 in overwatch. Then punched the last one to death.

It was glorious.

This is my next test... not much different in the build, just double Battalion of Sacred Rose and a side Vanguard of Bloody Rose.

 deviantduck wrote:

Rynner wrote:
EDIT: The update would be nice on battle sisters but it's not amazing either way.

It would be pretty amazing. Throwing the amount of bolter shots we do from 24" would be fantastic.

What bugs me is sisters were more fragile space marines, but carried more bolters, because they were cheaper
Now they carry the same number of bolters at most ranges and are still fragile =/

Played a game yesterday, and was impressed with the full sisters castle, offence wise, +1 to hit in an area plus rerolls on 1 plus holy bolter piled up more bodies than I gave it credit for on the first turn.

Rynner wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:
Also, I played a game against Orks Sunday and used Sacred Rose. There is no going back. The 5+ overwatch is amazing. I had a squad of Doms get assaulted by 8 tank bustas and I killed 7 in overwatch. Then punched the last one to death.

It was glorious.

Another note: Anyone in here order the $60 limited edition Celestine book? I hate money, so I was considering it.

I'm actually debating swapping from BR to SR due to the overwatch. Too bad I have to marry an LVO list in 3 days.

OoSR is great. I use it in all my games, sometimes subbing in some OoBR melee elements.

 Grundz wrote:

 deviantduck wrote:

Rynner wrote:
EDIT: The update would be nice on battle sisters but it's not amazing either way.

It would be pretty amazing. Throwing the amount of bolter shots we do from 24" would be fantastic.

What bugs me is sisters were more fragile space marines, but carried more bolters, because they were cheaper
Now they carry the same number of bolters at most ranges and are still fragile =/

I have to agree. Bolter Discipline means that Deathwatch Vets are now strictly better than Sisters at everything except psychic phase defense, and they require zero support characters, positioning limitations, or list-building restrictions to be so.

So, interesting thing I found out today. Under ITC, you can choose your relics and warlord trait at the table.

For me, that means my Canoness with Power Sword can be Brazier or Blade depending on opponent. Neat!

 pretre wrote:
So, interesting thing I found out today. Under ITC, you can choose your relics and warlord trait at the table.

For me, that means my Canoness with Power Sword can be Brazier or Blade depending on opponent. Neat!

Thats the one advantage of a mistress of repentance, it fills out spots in a brigade and has the order keyword.

Rynner wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So, interesting thing I found out today. Under ITC, you can choose your relics and warlord trait at the table.

For me, that means my Canoness with Power Sword can be Brazier or Blade depending on opponent. Neat!

Thats the one advantage of a mistress of repentance, it fills out spots in a brigade and has the order keyword.

I don't understand this as a reply to my post. You mean so I can take both the Brazier and Blade or something? I don't want to do that as my Mistress will be with the Repentia in a rhino.

Looks like a really disappointing offering, given what I'm seeing thus far reading through this thread?

A pity. And I was a bit excited over it.

 Melissia wrote:
Looks like a really disappointing offering, given what I'm seeing thus far reading through this thread?
A pity. And I was a bit excited over it.

Still worth picking up and playing, and sending the resultant feedback to GW.