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I think the only figures i do not have yet for the Nords are the Bow Chosen.
Got all of the characters released so far and the Founders display piece.Then two of each unit box but three of the Raiders.One of each Jotnar released.
Still a lot to make-up and get painted.
First Blood was good and a learning experience too.Lots of things i kept missing and need to learn more of the rules.
Raiders you need to remember the flurry rule which i did not.Trolls the regeneration rule.
Also that the Nords are not good at sitting on objectives if the ememy has lots of missile troops or magic user's.I think i will need to be more aggressive with them the next time i play.Keep pushing the enemy and hunting magic user's.

Two of my Nord Ugr. I have to assemble the third now that I'm shifting from First Blood to the full game.

 manic _miner wrote:
I think the only figures i do not have yet for the Nords are the Bow Chosen.
Got all of the characters released so far and the Founders display piece.Then two of each unit box but three of the Raiders.One of each Jotnar released.
Still a lot to make-up and get painted.
First Blood was good and a learning experience too.Lots of things i kept missing and need to learn more of the rules.
Raiders you need to remember the flurry rule which i did not.Trolls the regeneration rule.
Also that the Nords are not good at sitting on objectives if the ememy has lots of missile troops or magic user's.I think i will need to be more aggressive with them the next time i play.Keep pushing the enemy and hunting magic user's.

Nords do seem aggressive orientated. It's good I found a box of trolls to purchase recently at a fair price. We're playing in March, looking forward to it. There are company reps in Sacto as
well it seems that are doing a good job building the community. I really want to try First Blood as well, but all in due time.

I think First Blood is a good starting point to get into the game.Gets you used to the different rules and special rules which each faction/unit have.
It also means you dont need to get loads of miniatures to play the game straight away.Which can be a bonus when starting a new system.
I would suggest trying to get a few games of First Blood in if you can.
Got a big box full of Spires stuff Yesterday which i got from Ebay.All the boxes are complete and no miniatures have been put together.Think i am sorted for Spires for now with what i already had.
Made one of the Avatar figures up Yesterday.Really cool miniatures.Eight more of them to make then the Leader for them.Got the Centaur Avatara already.

Just note the rules for First Blood are undergoing a massive redesign.

We kicked off our 2022 narrative map campaign on Saturday. Was probably one of the best games I've played in 10 or so years.

Team match - 3000 pts total - hundred kingdoms vs nords & spires.

Nords & Spires go up 7-0 by turn 3 with a 12 point limit to secure the win.

By Turn 6 we had tied it up 11-11.

Last turn hundred kingdoms managed to pull the win 14-13.

Current first month of campaign map results.

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Two of my Nord Ugr. I have to assemble the third now that I'm shifting from First Blood to the full game.

Forgot to say nice work on the Ugrs.I am still not sure with what colours to go with for the skin on them.


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Great looking game Auticus.Also good to hear it has been one of your best in over ten years.

Nice to see large mostly painted miniatures on the table.

Any pictures of the other games that were played?

Campaign sounds awesome! Mind giving a quick go-over of the story? I'm guessing it's a "Nords invade from the North, Spires help them, 100k have to hold their own" sort of deal kinda like Riismark?

Any pictures of the other games that were played?

Those are just the ones I have sorry

Campaign sounds awesome! Mind giving a quick go-over of the story? I'm guessing it's a "Nords invade from the North, Spires help them, 100k have to hold their own" sort of deal kinda like Riismark?

Attached is Stornlands.pdf (the map campaign which some of the items within helped go back and forth on the official map campaign book) - followed by Stornlands_2020 (the narrative campaign I wrote to support it with mostly story, extra scenarios) and the title art of both.

TLDR: The Stornlands are an abandoned northern kingdom whose former king betrayed his people by offering a deal to the spires for immortality in exchange for the first born child of everyone in the kingdom forever. The King eventually remarried and had a queen and another child which was their firstborn, and he failed to honor his end of the deal, so the Shaper (the spires biomancer) cursed the land by turning all of the people into golden fungus and the nobility were transformed into eternal life with a bad time (they can't eat, drink, sleep, feel anything which drove them mad over time and turned them into ghoulish predators)

A descendent of that king learns his birthright and heads north to reclaim it.

The Nords are there as raiders and the dweghom have been called because a shard of the horsemen of war is there, though that won't play a prominent role until next season.

Is the art work above what inspired the conversion of the Lord miniature in the game pictures?

No - I had done my conversion first. The art work that was done for the book was taken from the miniature conversion

Just been reading some of the story in the above files.
Sounds really good from what i have read so far.
Like the picture at the end with the Spire character and the Feral King which looks very much like Gollum .

 manic _miner wrote:
Just been reading some of the story in the above files.
Sounds really good from what i have read so far.
Like the picture at the end with the Spire character and the Feral King which looks very much like Gollum .

Funny thing about that. The artist of that piece is from greece and worked on some conquest pieces (i don't know if official or for something else). The fallen king IS a lot like gollum so I liked how he put that together haha.

 auticus wrote:

 manic _miner wrote:
Just been reading some of the story in the above files.
Sounds really good from what i have read so far.
Like the picture at the end with the Spire character and the Feral King which looks very much like Gollum .

Funny thing about that. The artist of that piece is from greece and worked on some conquest pieces (i don't know if official or for something else). The fallen king IS a lot like gollum so I liked how he put that together haha.

Well you do have King Arthur in and the sword in the stone story so having Gollum in too is not a stretch.Just interesting in who finds the Ring.

Also like the base you have your character on with the stone hand on the front of the base.

Thanks! I found those online, and love them!

The hellbringer drake is now happening. Its on preorder.

The most commonly asked question in conquest land for the last 3 years... when is the dwarf dragon cannon thing coming out... is finally finished.

It is a beautiful model.

How do you handle this scale with terrain like buildings? 3d print?

I continue to use my warhammer terrain. AOS terrain i haven't noticed any issue since the new AOS models are basically almost same scale. I have a deep deep terrain collection from my warhammer days and I still use it since I no longer support Sigmar.

For the older stuff that is a few mm off... I don't care about it. No one else has cared in the games I've demo'd or played either so in my opinion just keep on keeping on.

Otherwise you can also get 3d printed models and scale them up if it tweaks you.

Playing my first game in Sacto next month. Pretty stoked. I'll probably bring some of my 2D terrain as well as battlefield in a box stuff. Thanks for the 411

Awesome let us know how it went! I know some of the guys in california that are vanguards, they are pretty sharp.

Now that I live over in the southwest part of the country I'm hoping to make some trips out there.

Played a game against my usual Nords opponent last night. Absolutely ripped him apart. He didn't bring trolls, so I think his list was doomed from the start

I have found that when they have no trolls, I usually do very well. When they have trolls, I am crushed.

There is no in-between. Trolls are filthy.

The thing is, the list I went up against was a fearsome "netlist". My friend played it because somebody posted it went undefeated at an event and his mind was blown since it was the opposite of how he'd ever make a list, haha.

Still wild how differing metas impacts people's lists way more in Conquest than any other wargame I've played.

 auticus wrote:
I have found that when they have no trolls, I usually do very well. When they have trolls, I am crushed.

There is no in-between. Trolls are filthy.

Well I only have one box. I was hoping the Nords were a bit more balanced by now.


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 auticus wrote:
Awesome let us know how it went! I know some of the guys in california that are vanguards, they are pretty sharp.

Now that I live over in the southwest part of the country I'm hoping to make some trips out there.

And I definitely will thanks


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Rihgu wrote:
Played a game against my usual Nords opponent last night. Absolutely ripped him apart. He didn't bring trolls, so I think his list was doomed from the start

what faction were you playing? Is he an experienced player?

Rihgu wrote:
The thing is, the list I went up against was a fearsome "netlist". My friend played it because somebody posted it went undefeated at an event and his mind was blown since it was the opposite of how he'd ever make a list, haha.

Still wild how differing metas impacts people's lists way more in Conquest than any other wargame I've played.

Would need to see how its been played. There are still guys I know that lose with 40k netlists even though they dominate GTs because those players just aren't very good.

But you are correct, every one's "meta" does impact list building.

I got out of the discord and all of the social media for conquest so I'm blind to what is being netlisted these days. The dual troll torpedo + bloodeds were the nord netlist back when I was still part of all that.

Well I only have one box. I was hoping the Nords were a bit more balanced by now.

Play with all of the models its not AS bad, but Trolls are definitely still a unit that are a bit bent. They are still a bit underpriced and its hard to say no to a unit with good cleave AND that regenerates AND is a bit undercosted. They fulfil a lot of roles by themselves.

I think an army with a single unit of 4-6 stands of Trolls is a tough customer but fun to play against. Two units of those trolls and your opponent better be bringing the heat with them as well or its going to be a bad time. My lists are usually a bit of everything and are more casual and narrative for-fun than netlisted or trying to bust the game, so when I say that two troll units break my balls, its because I'm not trying to bring an optimized pain list.

Friend just gave me wave 3 of support cards for dweghom, having never bought any before - will I need to buy wave 1 and 2?

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Friend just gave me wave 3 of support cards for dweghom, having never bought any before - will I need to buy wave 1 and 2?

Nah, each wave is the same for the most part. Updated art and rules text here and there.

 auticus wrote:
I have found that when they have no trolls, I usually do very well. When they have trolls, I am crushed.

There is no in-between. Trolls are filthy.

That doesn't sound like good balance, tbh.
Absolutely needing one type of unit to do well is the sort of gak that GW does.
Is there a counter to trolls, or are they just that OP?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 auticus wrote:
I have found that when they have no trolls, I usually do very well. When they have trolls, I am crushed.

There is no in-between. Trolls are filthy.

That doesn't sound like good balance, tbh.
Absolutely needing one type of unit to do well is the sort of gak that GW does.
Is there a counter to trolls, or are they just that OP?

So, the "problem" is, is local metas vary wildly. and the playtesters seem to have the experience that huscarls are as good or better than trolls but basically universally the experience seems to be very different. The devs are very receptive to balance changes and do a pretty good job at that but when the most "trustworthy" sources are saying Trolls Are Fine, Increase Huscarl Points you get some odd results.

There's a... small? movement. Might just be two people, at least in the Discord, of people pointing out that Trolls+Jotnar is The Nord List and if you don't skew those you don't do well. A user is collecting event data and is suggesting that every Nord list that places well involves Trolls+Jotnar. But then you have other users saying "well, I played against a huscarl list and it creamed me" or "My opponent proxied valkyries and volva and I couldn't even scratch them. Nords are fine!"

If there's one thing that I'm worried about with Conquest's balance it's that the playtesters play a very different game than it seems a lot of people do, and make balance suggestions based on that.

edit: that being said, the game is overall in a good place imho. 100k list building recently opened up a lot with the changes they made where it feels like you have actual options rather than just going with a Household Knight deathstar. Spires has always been varied and interesting. Dweghom... they're working on Dweghom, by god. It's really just Nords and Trolls+Jotnar skewing it to look like the faction is "fine" because they win making everything else wallow a bit.

The playtesters and their ideas of balance is one reason I stepped off that ship lol. I got tired of fighting that fight, especially when I had to do that same thing when I was playtesting AOS. I avoid the Discord and the Facebook now and haven't been on in about a year. I just lost the will to argue, especially when some of them get very nasty about it.

Context is everything and when balancing a game and someone says something is busted you have to look at what happened to make them say that. THe problem is ... there are no battle reports being submitted other than a couple guys that actually SHOW what happened in the game. (I know one of the uk groups does because David submits them via pdf and they use his spreadsheet that he uses to simulate the game which lets people play via diagrams and its great to show you everything that happened)

I agree with everything Rihgu said 100%. The game overall is fun. There are some issues that need resolved.

That will depend on the playtesters giving feedback. I wish I still had the endurance to argue every day and stay on that team but I don't. And I'm told you can't balance a game with math by a lot of them, so using math is useless as well.

Huscarls are like men at arms for 100k. Similar output. They are a fine unit. But no. If huscarls are creaming anyone I want to see that battle report, because I'm betting the farm that person was either playing poorly, or had really bad dice luck (or a bit of both).

I've logged according to my playsheet 128 games against nords and its a night and day comparison when trolls are there vs when they aren't there vs when they are spammed with blooded clones.