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So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

Assuming he gets the world eaters trait of +1A on the charge, 39. He's a blender with a no fall back aura, kinda makes sense fluff wise he'd be out there trying to get max skulls out of infantry units.

Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

Assuming he gets the world eaters trait of +1A on the charge, 39. He's a blender with a no fall back aura, kinda makes sense fluff wise he'd be out there trying to get max skulls out of infantry units.

Not just infantry units, as his slash attack will making scrap out of tanks and Knights.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

Assuming he gets the world eaters trait of +1A on the charge, 39. He's a blender with a no fall back aura, kinda makes sense fluff wise he'd be out there trying to get max skulls out of infantry units.

Not just infantry units, as his slash attack will making scrap out of tanks and Knights.

Tbh against light vehicles t7 and under the smash is much worse, 11 hits, 9 and a bit wounds, likely no save so 27 + 9d3 damage?

Into a knight it's likely 5 wounds so thats still 15+5d3 so a good chance of killing one outright.

 morganfreeman wrote:
Little disappointed. It would've been very thematic for his attacks to go up, but other stats decrease, as he took more wounds.

I 'spose this is kind of the 'best' alternative, as he's still incredibly dangerous right up until he's dead.

Kinda like Skarbrand in AOS who goes from "meh he's okay" toward "omg he will wipe out pretty much anything he touches!" based on how much hurt he has taken Hilarious unit there. Gives opponent pause for thought if he's not sure he can take him out.

T7?
W18?

What is this? Some sort of Nurgle/Tzeentch love fest?

He should be T8 W16!

Should be Move 8, Str. 8, T8, 8 wounds and 8 attacks at LD 8, really

You should also be able to take eight of him in an army.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

I know it's way late to be saying this, but reading those numbers makes me sick. 40k is in such a terrible state. If I didn't know that the design studio is worthless, I'd root for the rumored reset for 10th ed.

You should also be able to take eight of him in an army.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

I know it's way late to be saying this, but reading those numbers makes me sick. 40k is in such a terrible state. If I didn't know that the design studio is worthless, I'd root for the rumored reset for 10th ed.

 Geifer wrote:
You should also be able to take eight of him in an army.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

I know it's way late to be saying this, but reading those numbers makes me sick. 40k is in such a terrible state. If I didn't know that the design studio is worthless, I'd root for the rumored reset for 10th ed.

Same rumour sources apparently say no reset for 10th.

Dudeface wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
You should also be able to take eight of him in an army.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
So 36 attacks at S9 AP3 hitting on a 2+. Good thing GW hasn't been trying to push horde units in a while.

I know it's way late to be saying this, but reading those numbers makes me sick. 40k is in such a terrible state. If I didn't know that the design studio is worthless, I'd root for the rumored reset for 10th ed.

Same rumour sources apparently say no reset for 10th.

I suppose. I'm not invested nor leaning either way myself. I'm doing the old waiting and seeing because I don't think the game is going to change for the better regardless. Still too early for that. Maybe for 12th ed if GW feels enough economic pressure in the meantime to feel forced to make changes for the better.

Oh well, at least we get some fun models regardless of the state of the game. I'm looking forward to getting a box of those Khorne cultists.

Dudeface wrote:
Credit once again to Khornestar:

Hate to go all amogus but this is a bit sus. Quite a few pieces of data don't line up as they would do if this datasheet was made with InDesign like normal.





Feels more like those Knight datasheet 'leaks' from earlier in the year.

Could be the perspective as well, looks like someone made a picture if a screen. I still doubt this to be real, no generic Bloodthirster Rageflamethrower, Attacks decreasing and not increasing like I would expect, also both meele weapons share a profile which is odd

charles_the_dead_lizzard wrote:
Could be the perspective as well, looks like someone made a picture if a screen. I still doubt this to be real, no generic Bloodthirster Rageflamethrower, Attacks decreasing and not increasing like I would expect, also both meele weapons share a profile which is odd

Paired Weapons sharing a profile has been a thing for quite awhile now(Hunger and Slake, the Daemon Weapon claws in CSM, etc.). Also, he's already swinging 36/39 dice. You want MORE?

Platuan4th, I think the other guys means that the attack numbers should simply be flipped for the wound track. IE Angron starts at 8, then 10 and finally 12.

But as for the insane numbers period, so long as the game has us activating our whole army at a time, big powerful units need to be obscene (to a degree) because they’ll be lucky to survive one turn. It’s why models like Abbaddon have wound caps per phase.

Sure, nerfing damage would help, but it’s been a problem for forever to some degree as far as I can tell.

I don't mind Angron taking the fire for one turn and then paying for his own comeback while the rest of my murderers charge up the board. Named juggerlord + eightbound are also a very scary combo to keep alive just to take out Angron temporarily.

Me neither, it’s just the state of the game forces this to the extreme.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/06/khorne-berzerkers-get-a-closer-look-at-their-gore-flecked-armour-and-accessories/

A little snack before the holidays. With that many unique options it looks as though the kit won't be 2x5 duplicated models as I'd feared.

Weird article. They forgot the champions helmet and I’d have preferred to see the whole sprue or at least the weapon hands or bodies too

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/06/khorne-berzerkers-get-a-closer-look-at-their-gore-flecked-armour-and-accessories/

A little snack before the holidays. With that many unique options it looks as though the kit won't be 2x5 duplicated models as I'd feared.

Seems modular like the Rubric Marine kit, which is a good thing. Shame Plague Marines didn't get the same treatment.

Credit where it's due - that is looking like a very nice kit

Crispy78 wrote:
Credit where it's due - that is looking like a very nice kit

I do have a complaint though, and that's NONE of them have pistols in their left hand and melee weapons in their right hand.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:
Credit where it's due - that is looking like a very nice kit

I do have a complaint though, and that's NONE of them have pistols in their left hand and melee weapons in their right hand.

The base CSM don't either. Seems GW have drifted from having swaps in the kits.

It’s very hard to find right handed melee weapons. A few models have them and your best bet is the chaos raptor set. Sadly arms are already joined to the hands.

Judging by the preview, it looks like there are no spare/alternate pauldrons in the kit...

 xttz wrote:
A little snack before the holidays

Huh, 'chainswords only' FUD crowd was wrong, who could have seen it coming?

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Judging by the preview, it looks like there are no spare/alternate pauldrons in the kit...

Except it clearly says there are at least 22 in the box?

 Irbis wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Judging by the preview, it looks like there are no spare/alternate pauldrons in the kit...

Except it clearly says there are at least 22 in the box?

Wow. Two whole pads for the champion and then twenty for the ten normal dudes. Hope you like the gladiator pads which seem to have to go with bare arms.

So you have to give them all World Eaters iconography - mildly annoying if you wanted to use them in another Legion - especially as the basic Legionaries kit only has four (?) spares (one of while is moulded into a missile launcher).

 GaroRobe wrote:
It’s very hard to find right handed melee weapons. A few models have them and your best bet is the chaos raptor set. Sadly arms are already joined to the hands.

Take 'em from fantasy models. The old (current?) Chaos warriors have weapon arm pieces only as long as their gauntlet.

 GaroRobe wrote:
Weird article. They forgot the champions helmet and I’d have preferred to see the whole sprue or at least the weapon hands or bodies too

I think the champions helmet is the middle model in the first unit picture. The one that sort of looks like Khornes symbol. It doesn't line up with the CAD pictures of the other 10 at least.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Wow. Two whole pads for the champion and then twenty for the ten normal dudes. Hope you like the gladiator pads which seem to have to go with bare arms.

So you have to give them all World Eaters iconography - mildly annoying if you wanted to use them in another Legion - especially as the basic Legionaries kit only has four (?) spares (one of while is moulded into a missile launcher).

It's still some spares. And yeah, they all have WE iconography because it's supposed to be WE box. You want other legion, you need to source CSM pads. Like I said, IMHO focus on WE was a mistake and it really should have been generic Khornate marines book/minis, but it is what it is.