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I want to play a Start Collecting tournament at my local shop, but the Orks do not have an HQ in their Start Collecting box. I think the Painboy used to be and HQ, but now he is an elite. I cannot make a patrol detachment with this. Is there any rule for making the Painboy a substitute HQ or Warlord?

Talk to your Tournament Organizer and see if they would not mind you using the Painboy as a Warboss.

Given that it is a Start collecting tournament they would probably let you use him as a warboss or allow you an exception.

I'd do this...

1. HQ - Warboss w/Kustom Shoota and Big Choppa. Use one of the Nobz from the Nobz sprue and use the biggest axe and the fanciest looking pistol/gun.
2. Troops - 10x Boyz with Shootas.
3. Elites - Painboy
4. Elites - 5x Nobz (the other 4 from the Nobz sprue plus the one that comes in the Boyz box)
5. Heavy Support - Deff Dredd w/2x Skorchas and 2x Claws

That's a pretty solid list and it uses just the models in the box, with the minor liberty of using a Nob as a Warboss.

Start collecting tournament=tournament where everybody uses start collecting box? Apart from it being pretty unbalanced(forces are pretty inequal) that pretty much requires tournaments to waive away standard detachment system as not all can make legal army.

You may want to inquire about more details. The start collecting boxes don't really fit detachments in 8th. Nor are they near the same points wise, so is it a starter box capped at a certain number of points? Or starter box + something to get to a certain number of points and legal detachment.

Cj4594 wrote:
I want to play a Start Collecting tournament at my local shop, but the Orks do not have an HQ in their Start Collecting box. I think the Painboy used to be and HQ, but now he is an elite. I cannot make a patrol detachment with this. Is there any rule for making the Painboy a substitute HQ or Warlord?

Turn one of those Nobs into a Mekboy. THAT is your HQ. There is also enough bits to make a couple of other guys that you can turn one of the Nobs into a Boss, AND one of the boys from the 10 man mob into a Mek, if you want to. Keep the Mek next to the Deff Dred, Get the apinboy/ Boss combination, Use the Nobs to start with, adding the other Five to the Boss Mob.

 Grot 6 wrote:

Cj4594 wrote:
I want to play a Start Collecting tournament at my local shop, but the Orks do not have an HQ in their Start Collecting box. I think the Painboy used to be and HQ, but now he is an elite. I cannot make a patrol detachment with this. Is there any rule for making the Painboy a substitute HQ or Warlord?

Turn one of those Nobs into a Mekboy. THAT is your HQ. There is also enough bits to make a couple of other guys that you can turn one of the Nobs into a Boss, AND one of the boys from the 10 man mob into a Mek, if you want to. Keep the Mek next to the Deff Dred, Get the apinboy/ Boss combination, Use the Nobs to start with, adding the other Five to the Boss Mob.

Something to keep in mind with these suggestions is that OP wasn't too specific on format. It could be that the tournament is for start collecting box only and specifically how they are described as. Thus no kitbashing other units out of it.

Late reply. The tournament was 450 points. You could only use what was in the box. I ended up using the painboy as my warlord, and everyone got 3 command points regardless of what you had.

Cj4594 wrote:
Late reply. The tournament was 450 points. You could only use what was in the box. I ended up using the painboy as my warlord, and everyone got 3 command points regardless of what you had.

450 seems like a weird number. The again, I haven't worked out the points on the various Start Collecting boxes.

How did you do?