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Now that armies have the ability to strike first if they charge its given a boost to shooting armies. I've never liked the idea of a free shot, which overwatch is. I think you should be able to either shoot or charge after a run. Most charges will fail from a first turn assault so they'll get overwatched, so I don't seeing being crazy and it would allow shooting armies to run out of the way of the unit intending to charge you and still shoot without penalties, which is far better than overwatch anyways and would make the game faster and add much more dynamic elements to strategy and board movement. There are probably some incites that I'm not thinking of, but would this be feasible or just too skewed in close combat armies favour? I'm not saying this will replace overwatch though, still keeping overwatch.

I don't know what you're suggesting, but it sounds like you're suggesting you can shoot after falling back.

Which, in a word...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Awful idea. Fall Back is negligible enough as it is now.

Shoot or charge after running, it always seems daft in a war that you run and then are too pooped to even shoot your gun, yet you can shoot and still have enough time to fire overwatch but not shoot and charge lol. never mind falling back I just mean moving away from a unit intending to charge you.

ahh.. i get it. you want to bring back the old run rule (can charge after running)

I would say this would make assault weapons useless, armies that have a assault and charge built into them (genestealers, Slaneesh daemons, ect.) useless aswell.

And it would make rapid fire an even better option, i mean half range double tap after advancing? sign me up!

In short. I would say that this would be fun and cool. But would wreck quite a few things in the process. And also make some armies much better than what they are right now (Looking at you 30" Tau /Primaris/Mechanicum rapid fire)

You can advance and shoot in the same turn, you just need to be using assault weapons (and at -1 to hit).

mchammadad wrote:
ahh.. i get it. you want to bring back the old run rule (can charge after running)

I would say this would make assault weapons useless, armies that have a assault and charge built into them (genestealers, Slaneesh daemons, ect.) useless aswell.

And it would make rapid fire an even better option, i mean half range double tap after advancing? sign me up!

In short. I would say that this would be fun and cool. But would wreck quite a few things in the process. And also make some armies much better than what they are right now (Looking at you 30" Tau /Primaris/Mechanicum rapid fire)

This. You'd basically be nullifying the special rules of war bosses, banshees, slaaneshi daemons, certain sub-factions, etc. So you'd either have to come up with rules to replace those advantages, or else you'd simply be nerfing your opponents' units while also taking away some of their flavor.


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 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Shoot or charge after running, it always seems daft in a war that you run and then are too pooped to even shoot your gun, yet you can shoot and still have enough time to fire overwatch but not shoot and charge lol. never mind falling back I just mean moving away from a unit intending to charge you.

Advancing isn't just jogging a little faster than usual though. Ever played a shooter where your character has a sprint button? Usually this involves moving especially fast while in sprint mode but not being able to shoot while you're sprinting. Advancing is kind of like that. You're not gasping for breath because you hustled a couple extra steps; You're specifically focusing on move from A to B as quickly as you can without turning yourself into an obvious target.