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2018/02/23 21:04:52
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Hi, can I make a guard company commander a warlord in an imperial soup brigade to get the 5+ stratagem regeneration warlord trait?
And furthermore can I give him the kurov's aquila relic to steal enemy CP?
I believe this wouldn't give me access to the guard stratagems though
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2018/02/23 21:33:03
Subject: Re:Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You can make him the warlord and get access to the warlord trait and relic.
However, the stratagems require that you have one detachment that is wholly in one codex (in this scenario Imperial guard)
Yes. Your soup detachment will not get you any stratagems
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2018/02/24 00:47:38
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Cheers. Just wanted to check I'd understood it right! I suspect it'll still cause a rules debate every time I run a list with guard warlord and relics but no pure guard detachment
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2018/02/24 01:31:46
Subject: Re:Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Just to be clear you get _one_ Relic, singular for taking the guardsman as your warlord.
In your last post you used the plural, relics, and in order to take more than one Guard Relic, you need access to the stratagem that allows you to do so.
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2018/02/24 06:37:10
Subject: Re:Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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No pure guard detachment, no access to stratagems, no more additional relics.
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2018/02/24 10:15:14
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Ah yes, that makes sense! Thanks guys.
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2018/02/24 11:01:36
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I thought the warlord had to be from a detachment that the relic is also from, to get access to it? So unless you have a pure guard detachment you don't get access to relics?
Might be wrong but I thought this was the case.
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2018/02/24 11:20:06
Subject: Re:Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Regular Dakkanaut
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no. Your warlord dictates which one relic you get, but the relic in question can go to any eligible unit even if it not in the same detachment.
Example here is that he can get the aquila for a regimental commander he has in his second detachment, even though his warlord can be from the first
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2018/02/24 15:45:29
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Just for clarification, does anyone know if they've ever FAQed the relics stratagems to be clear that you can take one in a detachment that your warlord isn't in? I've had people tell me I can't use it as it's an 'extra' relic and they've said this means additional to the one you'd have normally. Just want to know if there's something you can point to to show that you definitely can take a relic for your non-warlord allies for CP
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2018/02/24 16:09:52
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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DoomMouse wrote:Just for clarification, does anyone know if they've ever FAQed the relics stratagems to be clear that you can take one in a detachment that your warlord isn't in? I've had people tell me I can't use it as it's an 'extra' relic and they've said this means additional to the one you'd have normally. Just want to know if there's something you can point to to show that you definitely can take a relic for your non-warlord allies for CP
I don't think it's been FAQd, and I don't expect it to, because to anyone that understands the rules it should be pretty clear you can use the stratagem to take relics in this way so long as you have access to the respective stratagem.
It sucks if people still don't allow it though.
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2018/02/24 16:59:43
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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DoomMouse wrote:Just for clarification, does anyone know if they've ever FAQed the relics stratagems to be clear that you can take one in a detachment that your warlord isn't in? I've had people tell me I can't use it as it's an 'extra' relic and they've said this means additional to the one you'd have normally. Just want to know if there's something you can point to to show that you definitely can take a relic for your non-warlord allies for CP
They have, you can, Codex DeathGuard FAQ.
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/40K_8th_ed_Update_Codex_Death_Guard_ver_1.2.pdf
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2018/02/24 22:51:53
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Thanks! Strange they've only done it for death guard, but I guess it sets a precedent
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2018/02/25 00:02:17
Subject: Warlords, relics + stratagems
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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DoomMouse wrote:Thanks! Strange they've only done it for death guard, but I guess it sets a precedent
Yeah, there are several examples of 'specific rules questions with broader impacts' in a few of the codex specific FAQ's. Super annoying as you need to basically skim every FAQ regardless of whether you play the army.
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