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Made in de
Guardsman with Flashlight



Germany

Hello fellow jarls,

I’m currently planing on a little list for zone mortalis. For I’m new to 30k i’d like to have your feedback on my first try on the list. I have to mention that I’m playing 40k and have my faire share of games in a zone mortalis environment against the foul Xenos, but have never played against another legion.

So here is my list.


++ Zone Mortalis - Combatant (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [1000pts] ++

+ Elites +

The Deathsworn [185pts]
. Deathsworn: Bolt Pistol, Great Frost Blade
. Deathsworn: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Deathsworn: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Deathsworn: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe
. Deathsworn: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe

Varagyr Wolf Guard Terminator Squad [362pts]
. Varagyr Terminator
. . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Plasma gun
. . Frost Weapon: Frost Claw
. Varagyr Terminator: Heavy Flamer
. . Frost Weapon: Frost Claw
. Varagyr Terminator: Chainfist, Heavy Flamer
. Varagyr Terminator: Chainfist
. . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Plasma gun
. Varagyr Terminator
. . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Plasma gun
. . Frost Weapon: Frost Axe
. Varagyr Thegn
. . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Plasma gun
. . Frost Weapon: Frost Blade

+ HQ +

Geigor Fell-Hand [135pts]
. Standard Wargear: Bolt Pistol

Priest of Fenris [120pts]: Artificer Armor, Bolt Pistol, Speaker of the Dead
. Additional Wargear: Melta Bombs

+ Troops +

Grey Slayer Pack [198pts]
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Grey Slayer: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Huscarl: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Great Frost Blade, Melta Bombs

+ Allegiance +

and Allegiance, Legion: VI: Space Wolves, Loyalist

++ Total: [1000pts] ++

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So what do you think?

As for the most missions cut your force in half, I think the terminators an the grey slayers with the Charakter attached goes first. The deathsworn and the priest going in reserve. While list building I’ve kept in mind, that a traitor legion will eventually bring an Contemptor and or other terminators, as well as beat stick characters. So I have to Handel this.

Until next winter.

Thoni
   
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The worry to me is that if someone does throw down a Contemptor or a Battle-Automaton (particularly an Artalax, since Move Through Cover built into Monstrous Creatures means it's a fully-mobile Jump Pack unit in ZM so it can pick its melee battles pretty effectively) the only things you've got that can seriously threaten them are in the Varagyr squad, nothing else is coming in with the Strength to do much to them.

I'd suggest dropping the Deathsworn and finding yourself some guns. They look scary and Dreams of the Death Wolf looks like an attractive way to mitigate the effect of power axes, but there are plenty of things (even in Zone Mortalis) that they can't really hurt (you can't damage a Contemptor from the front, wound a Domitar on 6s, you'll kill maybe one 3++ Terminator from the Legions that have them before they all die...) and being stuck with bolt pistols only makes them wildly inflexible. A plain old two-melee-weapons or melee/multi-melta Contemptor with a flamer in one of the fists, or a Contemptor-Cortus with more upgrades (the Contemptor-Cortus' weaker side defenses are seldom relevant in Zone Mortalis, it's a lot easier to park it somewhere it can't be flanked), would be a lot more flexible and it'd let you control more space when the heavy targets show up.

Another possibility would be dropping the Priest and the Deathsworn, and going for two five-man Vargyr squads.

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Made in de
Guardsman with Flashlight



Germany

Thank you for the feedback.

I think you are right, the meltabomb on the speaker of the dead may not be enough if they are locked with a contemptor.

When I drop the speaker of the dead and the deathsworn as well as one terminator I would have enough points for adding the following:

Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [165pts]
. Cortus Dreadnought: Havoc Launcher, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

Grey Slayer Pack [187pts]
. Grey Slayer: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Power Fist
. Grey Slayer: Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Grey Slayer: Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Grey Slayer: Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Grey Slayer: Bolter, Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Grey Slayer: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combat Shield
. Grey Slayer: Chainswords/Combat Blades
. . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun
. Huscarl: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, Pair of Lightning Claws

The idea behind this is, that I’ve got a houscarls who can go at initiative at ap3 and a squat with enough bolter firepower to defend the backfield.

As Zone mortalis has to divide your units for deployment, I would deploy the terminators, the HQ with the first grey slayers first. The contemptor and the second grey slayer with the Bolters from reserve.

Or what do you suggest would be a good unit for the reserve units?
   
 
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