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As the title say. What happens to the guys inside a transport if the transport goes boom while being surrounded.
The rules say to deploy the unit within 3" and this is where it gets a bit confusing.

Does the unit simply pop up within 3", wich mean that the enemy unit surrounding the transport don't stop the unit from exiting the transport?

Since its within 3" does this mean that just 1% of the base need to be within 3"? (This gives a big boost to models with large bases)

How would you interpret the rules?

 salix_fatuus wrote:
As the title say. What happens to the guys inside a transport if the transport goes boom while being surrounded.
The rules say to deploy the unit within 3" and this is where it gets a bit confusing.

Does the unit simply pop up within 3", wich mean that the enemy unit surrounding the transport don't stop the unit from exiting the transport?

Since its within 3" does this mean that just 1% of the base need to be within 3"? (This gives a big boost to models with large bases)

How would you interpret the rules?

They disembark as normal, before the transport is removed.

A transport being "surrounded" doesn't ever stop disembarking if there is space to disembark. Disembarking models are "set up", they don't "move", so can appear to move "though" other models. "Within" means you only need a sliver of base within 3", this has always been the case, even in previous editions. There is nothing to "interpret", the rules are crystal clear.

In this example below, you can disembark just fine.

Now, if there were a 2nd or 3rd rank of green models such that you couldn't place any models within 3" of the transport, but also more than 1" from the enemy, then the models would be destroyed as detailed in the transport rules.

If you are talking about an exploding transport, The D6 Mortal Wounds to each unit around the tank will likely open up enough space to disembark.

 helgrenze wrote:
If you are talking about an exploding transport, The D6 Mortal Wounds to each unit around the tank will likely open up enough space to disembark.

Which only happens occasionally. Transports don't always explode.

Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

Surrounded by crazed berzerkers in a exploding transport and only 1/6 of its occupants will die still sounds weird.
And even weirder when you consider that the enemy will just allow the enemy to walk out of their transports right past them.

 salix_fatuus wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

Surrounded by crazed berzerkers in a exploding transport and only 1/6 of its occupants will die still sounds weird.
And even weirder when you consider that the enemy will just allow the enemy to walk out of their transports right past them.

It's not 1/6 of occupants dying. It's a 1/6 chance each dies. So all could die or none could die. Rationalise it how you will. It's no less bizarre than a destroyed tank's wreckage mystically disappearing, or less crazy than the act of punching a tank to death in the first place!

 salix_fatuus wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

Surrounded by crazed berzerkers in a exploding transport and only 1/6 of its occupants will die still sounds weird.
And even weirder when you consider that the enemy will just allow the enemy to walk out of their transports right past them.

40k is abstract, it makes no sense a baneblade can fire its big cannon from los from its track .

The rules emulate a swirling battlefield in your example imagine this:

The rhino is chugging forwards and the zerkers run at it jump on top of it ripping off the panels and attacking the engine while its moving, as this happens the rhino lets out some left over smoke making the area foggy and does a doughnut manover allowing the occupants to escape out the back.

This is how you kinda have to imagine a lot of 40k, its not chess

 Latro_ wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

Surrounded by crazed berzerkers in a exploding transport and only 1/6 of its occupants will die still sounds weird.
And even weirder when you consider that the enemy will just allow the enemy to walk out of their transports right past them.

40k is abstract, it makes no sense a baneblade can fire its big cannon from los from its track .

The rules emulate a swirling battlefield in your example imagine this:

The rhino is chugging forwards and the zerkers run at it jump on top of it ripping off the panels and attacking the engine while its moving, as this happens the rhino lets out some left over smoke making the area foggy and does a doughnut manover allowing the occupants to escape out the back.

This is how you kinda have to imagine a lot of 40k, its not chess

Love this analogy!

If you can not place them, they die.


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Disembark: Any unit that begins its Movement phase embarked within a transport can disembark before the transport moves. When a unit disembarks, set it up on the battlefield so that all of its models are within 3" of the transport and not within 1" of any enemy models – any disembarking model that cannot be set up in this way is slain.


Within just means the enge of the base.

 Latro_ wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 salix_fatuus wrote:
Still seems a bit weird if you ask me, but hey its in the rules and now I just need to find ways to exploit this.

Thanks for clarifying.

If you want to "Forge the Narrative", let the "D6 on a roll of 1 model is slain" roll represent the occupants fighting tooth and nail out of the hatches to breach the enemy line.

Surrounded by crazed berzerkers in a exploding transport and only 1/6 of its occupants will die still sounds weird.
And even weirder when you consider that the enemy will just allow the enemy to walk out of their transports right past them.

40k is abstract, it makes no sense a baneblade can fire its big cannon from los from its track .

The rules emulate a swirling battlefield in your example imagine this:

The rhino is chugging forwards and the zerkers run at it jump on top of it ripping off the panels and attacking the engine while its moving, as this happens the rhino lets out some left over smoke making the area foggy and does a doughnut manover allowing the occupants to escape out the back.

This is how you kinda have to imagine a lot of 40k, its not chess

Hehe true true.

And don't get me wrong its weird, but its the good kind of weird.

Think of this way - the explosion threw the survivors clear.

Or the surrounding units took a duck and cover action and while they were doing that the survivors broke through the line.