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Proud Triarch Praetorian





So I recently decided to try get back into the hobby after about 18 months missing. I stopped playing not long after the 7th edition codexes started marching out and have losdt track of pretty much everything since the 7th Ed SM dex.

I reinstalled battlescribe and put this together after reading through the dex and looking at things. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Necrons) [74 PL, 1414pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Mephrit

+ HQ +
Cryptek [6 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light
Cryptek [6 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light
Overlord [6 PL, 139pts]: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe

+ Troops +
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10x Necron Warrior

+ Elites +
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer [12 PL, 210pts]: Power of the C'tan: Antimatter Meteor, Power of the C'tan: Cosmic Fire
Lychguard [8 PL, 170pts]: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 5x Lychguard

+ Heavy Support +
Transcendent C'tan [12 PL, 225pts]: Fractured Personality: Sentient Necrodermis, Power of the C'tan: Sky of Falling Stars, Power of the C'tan: Transdimensional Thunderbolt

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Necrons) [34 PL, 597pts] ++
+ No Force Org Slot +
Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Mephrit

+ HQ +
Destroyer Lord [7 PL, 126pts]: Artefact: The Nanoscarab Casket, Phylactery, Voidblade
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 1): Enduring Will

+ Fast Attack +
Destroyers [9 PL, 157pts]
. 2x Destroyer: 2x Gauss Cannon
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

Destroyers [9 PL, 157pts]
. 2x Destroyer: 2x Gauss Cannon
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

Destroyers [9 PL, 157pts]
. 2x Destroyer: 2x Gauss Cannon
. Heavy Destroyer: Heavy Gauss Cannon

++ Total: [108 PL, 2011pts] ++

I know I'm 11 points over, but the guys I used to game with aren't too bothered by little things like that with prior notice when outside of events.

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Okay, couple points.

First, avoid HQ taxes wherever you can. In your present configuration, you do not need 3x HQs in your battalion. Depending on your concept of play, I'd drop one.

10-man warrior blobs. I'd consolidate into two, 20-man blobs for reanimation protocols. If you're taking min squads to be chaff, I'd drop the 4th 10-man squad. That, and dropping an HQ, should help you fit in ~4 more destroyers which will provide your punch.

I'd consolidate the Destroyer squads to maximize reanimation protocols and effectiveness of the Elimination Protocol Stratagem. This might disrupt your Outrider detachment, but dropping another HQ would make you more points efficient. Everything is the same Dynasty anyway.

C'tan - how will you use them? A lot of the time, people want to screen them with scarabs (can be thrown into melee to tarpit or screen) or Wraiths (also want to get in melee). You have none of those. How will you screen the C'tan to avoid them getting shot to death during approach?

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Hey, thanks for the reply

The idea was to have 2 bricks and a shard move up centre & one flank, with the lychguard and the Overlord adding some CC deterrant in the middle of that battleline, while the destroyers and the DLord press the other flank, hard.

while not the primary goal, the Nightbringer being more viable in CC than the Transcendant means he'll be the one making a charge more often, and his short range powers are more for Horde control.

I could drop the overlord, but I'm not sure what I would take in his place. In theory drop him and the Lychguard for 2x5 Praetorians, to do the same job but with mobility improvements.

With today's increases to the Battalion CP, I could happily do without the Outrider detachment, and roll the destroyers into the main battalion, which would mean I only have 3HQ

I cannot however alter the Destroyers too much. could raise them to squad of 4 & 2+1H. gives me enough points left over to also take 7 scarabs.

And so, with these changes in place:

++Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [108 PL, 2004pts]++
Spoiler:

+No Force Org Slot+
Dynasty Choice: Mephrit

+HQ+
Cryptek [6 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light
Cryptek [6 PL, 95pts]: Chronometron, Staff of Light
Destroyer Lord [7 PL, 131pts]: Artefact: Nanoscarab Casket, Phylactery, Warscythe, WARLORD

+Troops+
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 240pts]: 20 Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10 Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [6 PL, 120pts]: 10 Necron Warrior

+Elites+
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer [12 PL, 210pts]: Powers: Antimatter Meteor, Cosmic Fire
Triarch Praetorians [8 PL, 160pts]: Rod of Covenant
Triarch Praetorians [8 PL, 160pts]: Rod of Covenant

+Fast Attack+
Canoptek Scarabs [6 PL, 91pts]: 7 Canoptek Scarab Swarms
Destroyers [12 PL, 200pts]: 4 Necron Destroyers
Destroyers [9 PL, 157pts]: 2 Destroyers, 1 Heavy Destroyer

+Heavy Support+
Transcendant C'tan [12 PL, 225pts]: Fractured Personality: Sentient Necrodermis, Powers: Sky of Falling Stars, Transdimensional Thunderbolt


does this look any better?

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Better, more efficient certainly. Can you consolidate the Praetorians into a larger squad for Reanimation? Shame you can make those destroyer squads a little bit bigger. Without more anti-tank, a large unit with Elimination Protocols could be really clutch.

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Personally I would:

Ditch the Destroyer Lord
Reduce the total Destroyers to a single, 6 man squad (much harder to wipe out)
Swap one of the Crypteks Chronometron for a Cloak and run him with the Destroyers for that 4+ RP roll
Run the 3 warrior squads as a strung out fire base.
Replace the remaining Cryptek with Szezas and keep him within 3 inches of a model from each of the warrior squads (the 5+ invul save makes no difference as they would need to be using AP -2 weapons to justify it and there are better targets in your list for that.
Combine the Praetorians to a single squad and start them near Szezas if little cover (he is the only Cryptek to give them +1 to RP rolls so helps to stop them getting wiped on turn 1)
Add a foot slogging Lord to stand next to Szezas to giver everyone nearby a re-roll of 1 to wound (An Overlord is usually the norm but with no Tesla and Szezas buffing your warriors, the re-roll will prove more useful, especially for Szezas ranged weapon (which you can give a warlord trait to target characters with it as well)
   
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Ok, so I can definately roll the Praetorians into a single unit since you both suggested that. I can also pile all the destroyers into a single unit if single units are more effective than MSU in this edition...
but I've always been an MSU player & I think I would prefer to keep it 2 units for that reason. may change subject to playing, but for now, no. I have no problem doing 6x Des + 3x HDes though.

Sumilidon, your suggestion is an interesting viewpoint... I've duplicated the battlescribe roster and messed about as advised, and come up with this:

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Necrons) [118 PL, 1997pts]
Spoiler:

+No Force Org Slot+
Dynasty Choice: Mephrit

+HQ+
Cryptek [5 PL, 85pts]: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras [8 PL, 143pts]: Eldritch Lance, WARLORD: Immortal Pride
Lord [5 PL, 83pts]: Staff of Light, Veil of Darkness

+Troops+
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 180pts]: 15 Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 180pts]: 15 Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 180pts]: 15 Necron Warrior

+Elites+
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer [12 PL, 210pts]: Powers: Antimatter Meteor, Cosmic Fire
Triarch Praetorians [16 PL, 320pts]: 10 Praetorians, Rod of Covenant


+Fast Attack+
Canoptek Scarabs [6 PL, 91pts]: 7 Canoptek Scarab Swarms
Destroyers [18 PL, 300pts]: 6 Necron Destroyers

+Heavy Support+
Transcendant C'tan [12 PL, 225pts]: Fractured Personality: Sentient Necrodermis, Powers: Sky of Falling Stars, Transdimensional Thunderbolt


The new plan:
1 - Setup in central brick with Warriors in range of Lord & Szeras, Transcendent just behind that to allow for countercharge, Nightbringer + Scarabs on one flank, Praetorians & Destroyers on the other fith the flytek.
2 - Press flanks hard, advance while firing in the centre. Upgrade units of warriors as soon as possible
3 - once the Praetorians and destroyers are in optimal range, teleport the lord and a unit of warriors that got +1BS into rapid-fire range of something shiny, and within 3" of the cryptek
4 - based on movement speeds, the Shard & Scarabs land the turn after

I have no idea if it will work b/c dice but it seem solid enough

opinions overall?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/04/20 10:07:46


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I like it a lot. With the loss of effective reserves on turn 1, a Necron army build around durability should do well in standard friendlies.
   
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Well, I shall report back once I have had a game with this army and let you know how it does

I'm still not sure how to do it best, but I would also like a list that uses vehicles mainly, since I have a fair few

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