Switch Theme:

Alpha Condor Challenge - Third Part Dice Queries  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Good Monday everyone.

Those sweet, sweet metal shield tokens are up for grabs, and though I don't think I'll get them, I'm vacillating between two lists. I'll of course play them a few times before then, but not much because the Q1 is on the 24th. The Alpha Condor Challenge is a local tourney to unite all the province's squadrons for a fun, prize-filled day. That one has a bit more time on the table for it.

So, I've always wanted to put Mean Girls on the table, and now that my second Lancer is painted, I can finally do so:

Asajj Ventress (37)
Lone Wolf (2)
Latts Razzi (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Countermeasures (3)

Ketsu Onyo (38)
Expertise (4)
Dengar (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Shadow Caster (3)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Otherwise I'm thinking I don't feel right winning with Scum, so maybe I should give this a try:

Lowhhrick (28)
Selflessness (1)
Tactician (2)
C-3PO (3)

Ello Asty (30)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Flight-Assist Astromech (1)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Fenn Rau (Sheathipede) (20)
Lone Wolf (2)
Weapons Engineer (3)
M9-G8 (3)

Total: 99

View in Yet Another Squad Builder


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Speaking of which, if anyone wants to attend the Alpha Condor Challenge:

https://www.facebook.com/events/1489641394419173/

Yeah, it's in Quebec, but almost all of us speak some form of English or another.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/05/28 01:23:16


 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Lincolnton, N.C.

I can't find any faults with the twin shadows list, I'd go for that.

My beloved 40K armies Red Corsairs
Order of Saint Pan Thera
Da Krome Toof Killas

DR:80S+++G+M+B++IPw40K(3)00-D++A+++/cWD233R---T(M)DM+ 
   
Made in nz
[DCM]
Villanous Scum






Likewise, though I found k4 better than Dengar though that was due to my meta and the fact that red dice hate me.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire.
Keeping the flame of Babylon 5 A Call to Arms alive, check it out;
Babylon 5 ACTA campaign log
Babylon 5 ACTA Painting log 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

A lot of our meta is 2 or 3 named pilots. Even single reroll against someone you haven't locked is golden. Because I move at rather low PS, if I lock a slippery ace, I might not get to use it. Plus not locking doesn't turn on as much pressure at first.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
For example, QD+Inqui,+Yorr or a Number or Rho or even Vestal have popped up.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/04/17 02:18:09


 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in gb
Screaming Shining Spear





Lancer list looks solid, Lone Wolf with two big base ships might need some careful flying but thats a play matter rather than a list matter

Best of luck

"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED." 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Thanks.

I can generally keep Lone Wolf active for one or two turns before I need to cross the streams and then it comes back on, hopefully having done enough damage in the meantime.

My conundrum is thus, mostly: I can reliably get a bump from a ship (or two) in Ketsu's front arc on the opening engagement. I'm tempted not to move the ship so it doesn't have an opportunity to attack Ketsu, but rather rely on Asajj to inflict damage from afar. It's just a lot less damage than an extra 4 red dice to the face. Personally, are you more of a slow n'steady player, or have-them-choke-on-lAzors player?

The Inquisitor is a lot less scary when he gets 2 tractor beam tokens assigned to himself.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

So there was an interesting discussion last night after the Challenge was done and packed up.

My last game was against a local who has special dice. They are white dice, but with symbols of the relevant colour (and correct shape) that I've seen use in casual games and such. He needs to get surgery for cataracts, and he tells me they allow him to see the results better. Being one for inclusion, I don't mind.

At the bar, we get into this discussion about third party dice (the player wasn't there) and they TOs for the PTL and Canadian Nationals and producers for VTTV live all say that they banned him from using them at the Nationals this year on the basis that they were third party.

One of them even goes further and says that (and I swear I didn't notice) he kept rolling official dice when dealing damage, but using his other dice while going through enemy bombs and mines.

I'd also heard some gripe about dice given at Regionals and National events, that had bubbles in them (that you could see on some clear batches)... so, where do you fall?

I just ordered that sweet pair of golden dice from All Wings (which was another point of contention from the producers of VTTV. The damage decks are much harder to read on camera and people tend not to hold them in front of the camera for very long) I'm fully expecting to be told not to use them at "premier" events, but I'm hoping I can use them in casual games?

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in us
Ship's Officer






I've seen too many issues with non-standard dice to be super happy with them. (3rd party dice that seem to roll paint more often, official tourney prize dice that roll blanks over and over and over, other peoples' dice that were too dark to see the results from across the table, etc etc).

I won't usually begrudge people with unique dice in casual games (and never the "official prize dice"), but I generally prefer if everyone's using the standard. Admittedly it's not perfect (many standard dice sets are wonky - I know people have gone through core sets + dice expansions and checked individual dice to see if they're fair; TL;DR they are not always so). Nevertheless, it eases up on the feeling that the dice are unfairly impacting the game.

And I don't just mean when I lose. I've had some games that I won because my opponent's non-standard dice went blank round after round after round, beyond what seemed like random chance. It didn't feel super great to win just because I could throw red dice and have paint show up.

Ask Not, Fear Not - (Gallery), ,

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Yeah! Who needs balanced rules when everyone can take giant stompy robots! Balanced rules are just for TFG WAAC players, and everyone hates them.

- This message brought to you by the Dakka Casual Gaming Mafia: 'Cause winning is for losers!
 
   
Made in us
Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Lincolnton, N.C.

I'm not super picky, as long as the dice pips match the same pips as the FFG ones. If I find a die with only one blank and all crits I'm going to be steamed for example. (Has that ever happened though? )

My beloved 40K armies Red Corsairs
Order of Saint Pan Thera
Da Krome Toof Killas

DR:80S+++G+M+B++IPw40K(3)00-D++A+++/cWD233R---T(M)DM+ 
   
Made in nz
[DCM]
Villanous Scum






That does sound well dodgy, I cant say as I am a fan of alternate dice (official or not),the gold and silver sets especially as I find them really hard to see over a table. But my biggest gripe is when someone uses a load of different dice all together especially when they are a mix of normal, crystal, marbled and alternate colours as I find it takes me a bit longer to work out what they just rolled. Whilst it isn't a major problem I just don't like anything that slows the game down more.

On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire.
Keeping the flame of Babylon 5 A Call to Arms alive, check it out;
Babylon 5 ACTA campaign log
Babylon 5 ACTA Painting log 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

I'm tempted to start noting the results of my gold dice when they come in. It'd be nice to see if they follow the curve over, say, 2000 individual rolls.

Not that I'd ever use that data in a pedantic way to bully my way into a tourney, Just my need to know.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
Made in us
Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions




Philadelphia PA

I came into the game being more of a rpg player, so to me alternate dice in cool colors is the norm. I recently bought some third party X-wing dice from ebay and they seem decent enough.

Of course I'd ask my opponent's permission in casual games since it seems like people can be wary of different dice.
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Bird from Hell






IMO you can use your fancy dice, but your opponent has the right to use them too (just like with custom templates). If you insist on keeping them to yourself then you'd better find some official dice to use instead.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
One of them even goes further and says that (and I swear I didn't notice) he kept rolling official dice when dealing damage, but using his other dice while going through enemy bombs and mines.


This is 100% unacceptable. You use one set of dice for everything, period. Special dice for different purposes is a giant red flag for cheating.

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka





Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Agreed. And I will be more aware of this going forward. It's just some people have a pile of dice sometimes next to their cards (à la Nathan Eide, for example) and they just seem to pick and choose at random. But if he systematically chooses dice on purpose, we're going to have to address this.

I would totally let an opponent borrow my gold dice. Rolling that miraculous evade on a gold dice or having that hit on a major explosion can be quite climactic.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
 
Forum Index » Star Wars Miniature Games by Fantasy Flight
Go to: