official Wood Robot GW tables

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**reds8n**

link to related k.starter thread :

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/738514.page

https://www.tabletopgaming.co.uk/board-games/news/warhammer-40000-and-age-of-sigmar-are-getting-official-custom-gaming

Sci-fi miniatures behemoth Warhammer 40,000 and its fantasy sibling Age of Sigmar have inspired an upcoming range of custom gaming tables.

The officially-licensed tabletops are the result of a partnership between Warhammer creator Games Workshop and Wood Robot, the firm behind the Table of Ultimate Gaming series of tailored furniture.

According to an announcement, Wood Robot will be working to “capture the spirit and the grandeur of the celebrated Warhammer 40,000 and Age of Sigmar universes and integrate those worlds into the custom Table of Ultimate Gaming games tables they offer”.

This apparently means building power outlets, USB ports and storage areas into the tables as standard, as well as supporting variable play depth that means the central area can be raised or lowered depending on the game.

More specifically, the Warhammer tables will be modelled in line with the games’ visuals, with ‘exclusive’ decorations and accessories inspired by the grimdark and fantasy worlds. We’d hazard a guess at plenty of skulls and metal.

There’s no word yet on how much the special edition Warhammer tables will cost, although Wood Robots’ Table of Ultimate Gaming starts anywhere from $500 (£352) to $900 (£634) depending on size and optional features. Pre-orders are due to open ‘in the near future’, with the tables available worldwide.

**Yodhrin**

Seems a bit expensive for what they are.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

K.

Seems nice, but an extravagance too far for me. Already got a massive farmhouse type table that came with the flat.

**H.B.M.C.**

Must prefer mats that can be all sorts of things than a single surface.

We need to see what these designs are going to look like.

**bubber**

A bit OTT imo. I'd prefer a light-weight, easy-to-store solution. My wall paper pasting tables are just too flimsy but I haven't found anything else with a price that's not too much. Obs I'd pay more for something more sturdy but I've seen a few that are in the £90 range that you'd need 2 of for a 6'x4' set up. Note that I prefer if the table is a bit over sized to place models, cards, dice, rulers, drinks, snacks etc on.

**Elbows**

It's a neat gimmick, but realistically a normal table works fine for 99% of people. I suppose if you're waist-deep in coin like Scooge McDuck this would be interesting. One of the main selling points of the original UGT was that it looked like a normal table when the lid was installed ---- so this kind of goes against that idea.

Again, neat, but a huge waste of money except for extravagance.

**Kawauso**

I just want a sturdy, plain table with a decent 6x4 surface at a good price.

...They're damn near impossible to find.

I use a regulation ping-pong table for my wargaming but it's seriously irritating how much space the damn thing takes up. If I could find something smaller that would comfortably fit a Realm of Battle board without any overhanging tiles I'd be all over it.

This seems promising...but all the fancy bells and whistles and unnecessary design elements that are likely to drive up the cost just sound irritating, honestly. I guess we'll see, but I really wish it were easier to find a simple, sturdy and cost-effective wargaming table.

**Zingraff**

I've noticed that many American board gamers swear to this type of table for reasons that continue to elude me. The American members of online board communities, specifically BoardGameGeek regularly post photos of their tables, and even post reviews of different manufacturers.

I've never understood the advantage of the often extremely exaggerated table edge, and the sunken table surface, which makes it resemble a pool table without the pockets.

Surely this sunken surface is less practical than an even surface? The sunken surface draws the game board further away from the players, which may make it harder to reach and interpret the board, and the tall edges means you have to place the board even further away from the edges in order for it to be seen.

**Erren**

The sunken surface keeps minis from getting knocked off. More importantly, if there’s a cover, you can put that on to “save” a board state if you can’t finish your game in one sitting. As someone with kids, I’d love it.

**Elbows**

Zingraff wrote:
I've noticed that many American board gamers swear to this type of table for reasons that continue to elude me. The American members of online board communities, specifically BoardGameGeek regularly post photos of their tables, and even post reviews of different manufacturers.

I've never understood the advantage of the often extremely exaggerated table edge, and the sunken table surface, which makes it resemble a pool table without the pockets.

Surely this sunken surface is less practical than an even surface? The sunken surface draws the game board further away from the players, which may make it harder to reach and interpret the board, and the tall edges means you have to place the board even further away from the edges in order for it to be seen.

I think the people who love this stuff are more role-players than wargaming enthusiasts - I've never met a wargamer who wanted a deep-set table like this. I'm not sure who is gaga over these things, but I know their Kickstarter did really well.

**Necros**

I think it's not practical for wargamers, since we spend all our money on army men and can't afford nice things like this.

**Kanluwen**

Erren wrote:
The sunken surface keeps minis from getting knocked off. More importantly, if there’s a cover, you can put that on to “save” a board state if you can’t finish your game in one sitting. As someone with kids, I’d love it.

More than this, it's also great to have a cover that is sturdy since you can then use it as an actual piece of furniture too.

Might sound dumb but some people are a bit pressed for space and that becomes a Big Deal.

**Zingraff**

In the case of a board game, you can take a picture of the table to record where the pieces are and then cover the board, sans pieces, with a stiff table cloth like you might do with an unfinished jigsaw puzzle. Or if you own more than one table, you could just leave the game be until the next sitting, and use the other table for meals or whatever.

I mean, I get why it would be neat to be able to encase the unfinished game inside the table, but then I'd rather have a surface I could elevate or lower mechanically, independently of the table edges, not a fixed, sunken surface.

**oni**

Kawauso wrote:I just want a sturdy, plain table with a decent 6x4 surface at a good price.

...They're damn near impossible to find.

This^

I have been searching for literally years trying to find a good table that isn't outrageously priced. The Table of Ultimate Gaming was the only one that really caught my eye, but I didn't bite for three reasons
1) It was a Kickstarter,
2) The surround was too large.
3) The dimensions weren't quite right to fit a GW RoBG (not that it wouldn't fit, it allegedly does, but with a gap all around it). For me, if the surface is going to be recessed I want the RoBG held firmly into place; meaning an exact 6' x 4' ID with +0.010"/-0.000" tolerance.

**H.B.M.C.**

Kanluwen wrote:
Might sound dumb but some people are a bit pressed for space and that becomes a Big Deal.

Friend of mine has bought one of these specifically because it can double as an actual table, which is perfectly fine.

Some people don't need that though, and are more than happy with a pair of 6x2.5 trestle tables and a few gaming mats to go over them.

**LunarSol**

These tables were a much bigger deal before Neoprene mats became really common. These days they've definitely mostly suited to extended gameplay campaigns. RPGs are the big one, but they're good for stuff like Legacy games or stuff like Twilight Imperium as well.

**Kirasu**

Kawauso wrote:
I just want a sturdy, plain table with a decent 6x4 surface at a good price.

...They're damn near impossible to find.

I use a regulation ping-pong table for my wargaming but it's seriously irritating how much space the damn thing takes up. If I could find something smaller that would comfortably fit a Realm of Battle board without any overhanging tiles I'd be all over it.

This seems promising...but all the fancy bells and whistles and unnecessary design elements that are likely to drive up the cost just sound irritating, honestly. I guess we'll see, but I really wish it were easier to find a simple, sturdy and cost-effective wargaming table.

Yeah I'm not sure where gamers get the idea that these kind of tables are easily replaced through other cheaper methods. There are virtually no 6x4 tables on the market and they never have been. Sure you can buy 2x folding tables and those are okay for a lot of purposes but if you want a table that can function as actual furniture, good luck.

I think the Table of Ultimate Gaming is quite the deal (if you want furniture and not a low quality gaming-only-surface) as it can converted into a normal table. The price of a craftsman building you this is pretty close to the price they are selling it at, and i've priced my own via a carpenter. Tables of this size and quality aren't cheap and are basically unheard of unless you get it custom built since the non-warhammer world doesn't require 6x4 tables.

Not everyone wants cheap lumber at home depot nailed together to form a crude surface! Compared to the cost of GW's little plastic men I'm amazed that so many think these tables are only for "rich people". That's like buying a Cadillac and then saying you can't afford tires, of course you can afford the tires because you bought a caddy... come on.

**ironicsilence**

Kind of reminds me of the now out of business geek chic tables

**Sasori**

I must be missing something, but 1k for these seems like an absolute steal to anything else on the market. I would HAPPILY shell that out for one of these, if the quality is up to par.

**BrookM**

Whatever happened to Sultan? Weren't they the (overpriced) golden standard of gaming tables?

**AndrewGPaul**

Overpriced? By what metric? I paid £300-odd for a coffee table that raises and lowers and onfolds from 2’ x 4’ to 4’ square. These look sturdier and bigger, and as custom items don’t have the same economises of scale that an Ikea dining table has.

It’s a luxury item (even compared with the games themselves, which are hardly necessities), but as far as luxuries go, they seem reasonable.

**Sasori**

BrookM wrote:
Whatever happened to Sultan? Weren't they the (overpriced) golden standard of gaming tables?

GeekChic went out of business, and I think the Sultan was like 10-15k. These are going for 1k which is a helluve a good deal.

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Kirasu wrote:
Kawauso wrote:
I just want a sturdy, plain table with a decent 6x4 surface at a good price.

...They're damn near impossible to find.

I use a regulation ping-pong table for my wargaming but it's seriously irritating how much space the damn thing takes up. If I could find something smaller that would comfortably fit a Realm of Battle board without any overhanging tiles I'd be all over it.

This seems promising...but all the fancy bells and whistles and unnecessary design elements that are likely to drive up the cost just sound irritating, honestly. I guess we'll see, but I really wish it were easier to find a simple, sturdy and cost-effective wargaming table.

Yeah I'm not sure where gamers get the idea that these kind of tables are easily replaced through other cheaper methods. There are virtually no 6x4 tables on the market and they never have been. Sure you can buy 2x folding tables and those are okay for a lot of purposes but if you want a table that can function as actual furniture, good luck.

I think the Table of Ultimate Gaming is quite the deal (if you want furniture and not a low quality gaming-only-surface) as it can converted into a normal table. The price of a craftsman building you this is pretty close to the price they are selling it at, and i've priced my own via a carpenter. Tables of this size and quality aren't cheap and are basically unheard of unless you get it custom built since the non-warhammer world doesn't require 6x4 tables.

Not everyone wants cheap lumber at home depot nailed together to form a crude surface! Compared to the cost of GW's little plastic men I'm amazed that so many think these tables are only for "rich people". That's like buying a Cadillac and then saying you can't afford tires, of course you can afford the tires because you bought a caddy... come on.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head. I'd rather pay 1k for a nice, solid table than 300$ for some particle board crap that doesn't even last that long. I'll be the first in line to buy this table.

**Yodhrin**

You guys know that there are options other than "worthless tat" and "spend a thousand dollars", yeah? Visit an IKEA sometime ffs

Seriously though, first up, "you can afford to buy models, therefore nothing even tangentially related to using said models can ever be considered overpriced" is top-shelf moon-logic - a lot of folk can afford to buy models exactly because they're frugal with everything else related to the hobby. Beyond that though, you have to put some pretty silly qualifiers in place to insist there aren't really suitable solutions out there for a 6x4 tabletop, like insisting it be *exactly* 6x4 - grab a couple of INGO tables and together they're 8x5, and only 80 quid for the pair. Or if you want something fancypants go hunting around secondhand furniture stores, odds are you'll find some nice old wooden extendible dining table for substantially less than this costs that'd work.

I can just about understand why this kind of thing appeals to long-form RPG and board gamers who might want to leave things set up while also using the table for normal things, but beyond that it's a solution in search of a problem tbh.

**LunarSol**

In fairness, I'd put IKEA pretty close to the "worthless tat" end of the spectrum personally, but I understand the appeal.

**Sasori**

Yodhrin wrote:
You guys know that there are options other than "worthless tat" and "spend a thousand dollars", yeah? Visit an IKEA sometime ffs

Seriously though, first up, "you can afford to buy models, therefore nothing even tangentially related to using said models can ever be considered overpriced" is top-shelf moon-logic - a lot of folk can afford to buy models exactly because they're frugal with everything else related to the hobby. Beyond that though, you have to put some pretty silly qualifiers in place to insist there aren't really suitable solutions out there for a 6x4 tabletop, like insisting it be *exactly* 6x4 - grab a couple of INGO tables and together they're 8x5, and only 80 quid for the pair. Or if you want something fancypants go hunting around secondhand furniture stores, odds are you'll find some nice old wooden extendible dining table for substantially less than this costs that'd work.

I can just about understand why this kind of thing appeals to long-form RPG and board gamers who might want to leave things set up while also using the table for normal things, but beyond that it's a solution in search of a problem tbh.

IKEA is crappy particle board. While I'm sure someone will chime in with how their IKEA lasted them forever, the fact is it is low quality furniture. All of your suggestions are subpar, and are not offering the same quality and materials that I would like in a gaming table. You can be thrifty, that's fine, but don't expect the same level of quality and craftsmanship that something like this team is offering, it's not just not the same. I do not want to buy two crappy ikea tables and mash them together. I don't want to bring a measuring tap and try to hunt for a second hand table that is slightly cheaper.

Which is the whole point. You are paying 1k for a table that's high quality, comes with all the needed accessories, and is the right size right off the bat. For what you get, it's a great price.

**notprop**

£632 for themed gaming table (plus extra I’m guessing) doesn’t seem that bad to me. My dining room table (which presumably this would be instead of) cost over a grand. But that’s solid oak vs Softwood/ply judging from when I looked in on their last Kickstarter.

Anyway you want sturdy, cost effective and collapsible get a:

Spoiler:

**judgedoug**

What's interesting is all the poeple that are thinking this is a new product. TOUG was funded last year and tables are shipping now.

Even the partnership with GW is old news. (March 6)

Me? I'm waiting on my 4x6 table to arrive. Cost about a grand.

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oni wrote:
I have been searching for literally years trying to find a good table that isn't outrageously priced. The Table of Ultimate Gaming was the only one that really caught my eye, but I didn't bite for three reasons
1) It was a Kickstarter,
2) The surround was too large.
3) The dimensions weren't quite right to fit a GW RoBG (not that it wouldn't fit, it allegedly does, but with a gap all around it). For me, if the surface is going to be recessed I want the RoBG held firmly into place; meaning an exact 6' x 4' ID with +0.010"/-0.000" tolerance.

Weird. I was totally in for the opposite reasons.
- I knew the founder of Wood Robot is like part of the Hasbro family or whatever and has extensive access to factories and like twenty years of brand management. It's exactly what Kickstarter is for, imho - to see if the market exists, and to provide the capital to begin making a product.
- the surround was a perfect size for balancing books, setting dice, models, plates, etc, without having crap all over the gaming surface.
- It has a gap on purpose for the Realm of Battle tiles, so that you can actually remove them once you've put them in the table. yeesh with a tiny tolerance I would be cursing every time I changed out my sets (I have three, plus four different Games and Gear boards, so they are often changed on my current table)

**Dark Severance**

ironicsilence wrote:
Kind of reminds me of the now out of business geek chic tables

Except their tables were $2000+, on average $2800 after all is said and done.

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Sasori wrote:
This pretty much hits the nail on the head. I'd rather pay 1k for a nice, solid table than 300$ for some particle board crap that doesn't even last that long. I'll be the first in line to buy this table.

That is one of the reasons I went with Game Anywhere tables. It is fairly portable, at least more portable than a ping pong table. It has a variable sizes. I didn't like the look of the Gat-64, but went with the GAT-54MOD with the add-ons to make expand to 6x4. So I can use the 54 for dining table because it doesn't look half bad and then expand to 6x4 for larger gameplay when needed.

**Bossk_Hogg**

Yodhrin wrote:
You guys know that there are options other than "worthless tat" and "spend a thousand dollars", yeah? Visit an IKEA sometime ffs

They don't really MAKE many 4' wide tables though. My wife and I spent a lot of time looking for one to double as our dining room table. Other than a few pub tables (which have the length issue), we honestly couldn't find much over 40 inches across.

It would be nice of game companies started designing their play areas with practicality in mind. Most people don't have a pool table/pingpong or multiple picnic tables to string together. Adjust your scale for that matter. Mass army games should really be 15mm anyways.

**tneva82**

Erren wrote:
The sunken surface keeps minis from getting knocked off. More importantly, if there’s a cover, you can put that on to “save” a board state if you can’t finish your game in one sitting. As someone with kids, I’d love it.

How deep that is then? With knights and terrain tall enough to hide them would need to be quite deep for cover to sit which then makes bottom harder to reach