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My group has been posting pictures from various Facebook groups with pictures of people doing their best chicken little impressions. The one that’s on my mind for this post is that Ork Warboss in Bike can affect all Bike units with its aura. Because the rule is written “Ork infantry and bike models”.

What’s the worst rule interpretation you see?

Um what models you don't think it boost up?

Bikes without riders, obviously!

Edit: Clarification: it clearly boosts infantry and bikes (not the riders of said bike)

People flipping their heads because now you can't take an army of IMPERIUM or CHAOS. Everything in your entire army has to have one keyword.

THAZZ WOT IT SEZZ MATE!

Also people who can't understand how FLY charge works now and debate that they measure diagonally despite pasting in the rules themselves

Or that foot troops somehow measure diagonal movement to thr top of ruins all of the sudden.

That if you don't can't do the easiest tactic in the game (alphastrike) and if you have to pay points for abilities iinstead of reaping sweet sweet free models, that your army is useless.

 Silentz wrote:

Also people who can't understand how FLY charge works now and debate that they measure diagonally despite pasting in the rules themselves

I didn't even know this was even an issue. This is how our group always played it.

The biggest misconception is the fanbase knows the 40k rules in the first place.

 Crimson Devil wrote:
The biggest misconception is the fanbase knows the 40k rules in the first place.

Cannot exalt enough times.

People thinking the rule of 3 is for all matched based games.

 lolman1c wrote:
People thinking the rule of 3 is for all matched based games.

I think it should be - at least for a while. Something like it is necessary, eventually. Might as well get a feel for it now rather than later.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good, etc, etc.

 Crimson Devil wrote:
The biggest misconception is the fanbase knows the 40k rules in the first place.

This. I made a post on Reddit a little while ago showing off the great new terrain rule (Deff dread with a tiny sliver of claw visible to a lascannon team, fully targetable, 100% out of cover. Lascannon team sitting on a crate 2" higher than the deff dread's base, 100% immune to attack) and got some really fantastic responses.

My favorites were:

-That deff dread is over 50% obscured, so you can't draw line of sight to it

-That deff dread is obscured enough that those lascannons would only hit it on sixes, hardly imbalanced!

-Units can just walk up into the air and claim wobbly model syndrome so this isn't an issue

-You just select the deff dread to fight, pile in moves let you climb up the crate

-Behind terrain counts as within so the deff dread is in cover

the_scotsman wrote:
Lascannon team sitting on a crate 2" higher than the deff dread's base, 100% immune to attack)

Deff dreads have guns.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Lascannon team sitting on a crate 2" higher than the deff dread's base, 100% immune to attack)

Deff dreads have guns.

This deff dread was modeled with 4 close combat arms, which is a completely legitimate (and probably the most common, because it's awesome) way to build a deff dread.

If there was a rules exploit allowing me to take a small squad and make it completely immune to shooting for pretty much no negative, and a Tau player complained, would you say "Tau models have close combat attacks, just use melee"?

The no da jump/gate of infinity/upon wings of fire outside of deployment zone on turn one has been one of this biggest TFG things I've ever seen.

That it made Imperial Guard better.

Probably that people keep acting like the 3 data sheet thing is a rule or even a beta rule when it's actually the equivalent of a designers note.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Probably that people keep acting like the 3 data sheet thing is a rule or even a beta rule when it's actually the equivalent of a designers note.

Like the fact that the table should be 72" by 48" at 2000 points. You never see anyone playing like that, right?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The no da jump/gate of infinity/upon wings of fire outside of deployment zone on turn one has been one of this biggest TFG things I've ever seen.

I would also include turn 1 disembark outside of deployment zone.

That $faction was the worst hit / $faction is now the worst.

 lolman1c wrote:
People thinking the rule of 3 is for all matched based games.

In practice it is just like smite change and character targeting were.

Sure you can decide not to follow it. And hey if you have 2+ armies you can even play solo then! Yey...


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 Backspacehacker wrote:
Probably that people keep acting like the 3 data sheet thing is a rule or even a beta rule when it's actually the equivalent of a designers note.

Like max 3 detachments in 2000 pts is "suggestion".

Like it or not tournament play is dictating games outside it. Gaming groups adopt them as well as there's this misconception points are balanced when infact it's about one of the worst ways to play if you want balance. Points aren't meant to bring balanced game. That's not their job. It's just way to get game up with minimal discussion.

But since tournaments use points people have this idea that tournament rules are more balanced. And thus tournament rules are applied outside tournaments.

Hell ETC tournament rules went first outside ETC to non-ETC tournaments and then to normal games despite ETC games being foremost team tournaments so not even applicable for regular 1 vs 1 game. The fact it's team tournament changes how things work and thus rules don't work that well for non-team tournaments nevermind pick up games.

But that doesn't stop it from spreading outside original premise(team tournaments).

Tournaments dictate regular games. If you don't follow tournament rules getting game is going to be hard.

tneva82 wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
People thinking the rule of 3 is for all matched based games.

In practice it is just like smite change and character targeting were.

Sure you can decide not to follow it. And hey if you have 2+ armies you can even play solo then! Yey...


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 Backspacehacker wrote:
Probably that people keep acting like the 3 data sheet thing is a rule or even a beta rule when it's actually the equivalent of a designers note.

Like max 3 detachments in 2000 pts is "suggestion".

Like it or not tournament play is dictating games outside it. Gaming groups adopt them as well as there's this misconception points are balanced when infact it's about one of the worst ways to play if you want balance. Points aren't meant to bring balanced game. That's not their job. It's just way to get game up with minimal discussion.

But since tournaments use points people have this idea that tournament rules are more balanced. And thus tournament rules are applied outside tournaments.

Hell ETC tournament rules went first outside ETC to non-ETC tournaments and then to normal games despite ETC games being foremost team tournaments so not even applicable for regular 1 vs 1 game. The fact it's team tournament changes how things work and thus rules don't work that well for non-team tournaments nevermind pick up games.

But that doesn't stop it from spreading outside original premise(team tournaments).

Tournaments dictate regular games. If you don't follow tournament rules getting game is going to be hard.

Speaking of misconceptions.

So what's the misconceptions there? That smite rules etc weren't adopted right away? Saw much of gaming without those?

And I have yet to see anybody play for real without 3 detachment limit. I hear of them in internet but then that's internet rumour. Not real life experience...

But hey ho put head in sand and try to play without those. You'll be struggling to find much of opponents though.

I don't really understand why you're assuming your play group and experiences are the same as everyone else's. How are you so certain that everyone plays with beta rules, and no one ever uses more than 3 detachments? The simple fact that so many have responded to this change by saying "It's just for tournament play, not a huge deal" suggests to me that there's quite a bit of gaming going on that doesn't follow the tournament rules/meta. If that's not the case for your group, then that's the hand you've been dealt, but your experiences /= everyone's experiences.

"I'm gonna IGNORE the rules I don't like! Deep striking turn 1, and no unit limits are back!"

- Lets be real these rules are gonna become rules. It worked this way in 7th on back, get over it.

"THE ONLY army that will do well now is IG! Tank Spam!"

-They have yet to win a major tournament. Chill.

"GK are DEAD"

-They are best used as a small specialist detachment now with other units in support.

"Soup is DEAD! MY ARMY DOESNT WORK ANYMORE"

-No, now you need to have detachments filled with units from only 1 ARMY...this is the way it was always supposed to work you WAAC grot

"MAX 3 Data sheets in an army!! THE GAME IS DEAD!!!"

-Learn to diversify. Get over it. Use your imagination.

 Porphyrius wrote:
I don't really understand why you're assuming your play group and experiences are the same as everyone else's. How are you so certain that everyone plays with beta rules, and no one ever uses more than 3 detachments? The simple fact that so many have responded to this change by saying "It's just for tournament play, not a huge deal" suggests to me that there's quite a bit of gaming going on that doesn't follow the tournament rules/meta. If that's not the case for your group, then that's the hand you've been dealt, but your experiences /= everyone's experiences.

I mean, I've played plenty of games where we just ignored it, mostly because they were pretty much non-competitive.

Like, don't get me wrong, I have an army that just mixes vostroyan guard, admech, inquisition, assassins, sisters of silence and deathwatch into Imperium detachments and just has a great time. Do you figure I'm going to be bringing that army when I'm playing tourney practice games? I'm thinking that proooobably is not going to be practical, regardless of beta rules.

That being off the table always means you're in reserves, and that being treated as though you are entering from reserves is the same as going back into reserves.

The fact that wobbly model syndrome is optional..........


Just...... Why??

People think that the Facebook page has any weight for rulings. GW's words not mine "And a quick note on rules questions - we can’t give you official answers." You still can't use Gate of Infinity or Da Jump to get into the enemy deployment. The question that everyone screencaps doesn't even clarify anything about the enemy deployment zone.... Read how the FAQ uses "set up" and "deploy" interchangeably multiple times and how all of the spells use the phrase set up.
Edit: Clarified some pronouns so it was less confusing to read

 DominayTrix wrote:
People think that the Facebook page has any weight for rulings. GW's words not mine "And a quick note on rules questions - we can’t give you official answers." You still can't use Gate of Infinity or Da Jump to get into the enemy deployment. The question that everyone screencaps doesn't even clarify anything about the enemy deployment zone.... Read how the FAQ uses "set up" and "deploy" interchangeably multiple times and how all of the spells use the phrase set up.
Edit: Clarified some pronouns so it was less confusing to read

Well, the rules seem reasonably clear that you can use deepstrike abilities if the unit was deployed on the table. Petitioning FB is just to get people pushing against it to change their view.