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Longtime Dakkanaut





https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/755258.page

How is this any different than another other post in Off Topic?
   
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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

Usually, posts should ask a question or stimulate some kind of discussion. But sometimes posts end up reading more like a journal or blog entry, and those don't really spur much discussion and usually end up locked.

It's usually a small distinction between the two, so MODs usually rely on discretion and/or notifications by other members to see if a thread falls more in the "discussion" category or the "blog post" category.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Should I have left out what I decided to wear to work, and what I had for breakfast? I just assume the discussion to take its own course.

Do I have to end every thread I start with a question?
   
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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

Also, to add:

If you have a problem/question/concern about a particular MOD action, spamming every other thread in the OT is most likely not the way to address that issue.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I didn't have a problem with what a MOD was doing in any of those threads (except for not applying the same rules there as the one in mine).

   
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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

KTG17 wrote:
Should I have left out what I decided to wear to work, and what I had for breakfast? I just assume the discussion to take its own course.


It's usually a "know if when they see it" kind of situation. There is a certain amount of guessing on the MODs part to decide if they think a thread will turn into a discussion or not.

Do I have to end every thread I start with a question?


If often helps.

But I frequently start threads without a question. I post an article or news event without any commentary to let a thread start "pure", and then add a separate post to the thread about "my" feelings and thoughts.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





So basically accomplish the same thing I was doing, just be sneaky about it.

I got it.
   
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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

KTG17 wrote:
I didn't have a problem with what a MOD was doing in any of those threads (except for not applying the same rules there as the one in mine).



Asking a question in N&B is a good way to address the issue and ask a question.

PMing the MOD that closed your thread, or any other MOD is also a good way to address the issue and ask a question.

Spamming many different threads with "how is this different" is spam, and doesn't really come across as a good way to address the issue and ask a question.
   
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On moon miranda.

You could have chosen to just wait a bit and let a mod explain here or PM'd one. That would probably have generated a more favorable result.

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Longtime Dakkanaut





I liked doing it. It points out the hypocrisy in what was done to me, even if the posts get deleted. I mean, I could have listed the same threads here I guess. I will do that next time.

Its taken me awhile to catch to learn the ways around here, but I am getting there. I mean, in addition to being snarky, passively aggressive, and so on.

At least we can still discuss tanks and guns, so long as we don't mention in either one that they either were used to kill anyone.



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Perhaps, and I am probably reaching here, a MOD could ask... what is the point of this thread before laying down the hammer. But that's just me.

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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

The MODs have been known to reopen a locked thread, after the person reached out to them and explained to them why they think it should remain open and give them a good explanation about the actual point of the thread.

And most often, that is the question that MODs have to ask themselves when they lock a possible "blog post" thread: "what's the point".

We are allowed to talk about stuff that we have feelings about, that's never been off-topic and those threads don't get locked automatically. But there has to be a point to them, and they have to stimulate actual discussion. The gun thread is a good example, although it is a bit unique in that regard. It was created for people to talk about guns they own and use in a dedicated non-political thread. It's not a "guns make me tingle in my nether region" type thread, it's a very practical discussion about specific firearms and our experiences with them. Same in the tank thread, people talk about specific tanks, their functions, their short comings, how they can be improved, and how stupid GW is when they design tanks.

To me, the thread that got locked just didn't seem to actually spur any discussion and felt more like a "this chick and her video gave me feelings" post, and what little points that were actually mentioned seemed to be all over the place. It felt more like a stream-of-consciousness post than a discussion post, and from the responses it seems like others felt the same, including at least one MOD.

If there was an actual point or attempt to create a real discussion, then PM a MOD and address it or wait for one to respond here. If the point of your thread isn't clear by the post itself, it's not really up to the MODs to seek clarification when responding to alerts. If people don't see the point, click the triangle because they don't think there is a point, and then a MOD responds and doesn't see a point either, then they will lock the thread rather than waiting around to see if a point exists. You can then PM a mod and say "wait, there is actually a point, and it's....." and they might reopen it with a friendly note saying "OP clarified, here is the point, feel free to mingle and discuss as desired". They have done so in the past, our MODquisition is actually quite reasonable in that regard.

But if you are snarky, passively aggressive, and SPAM every other thread over some perceived injustice, you probably won't get much goodwill to your cause.
   
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 d-usa wrote:

To me, the thread that got locked just didn't seem to actually spur any discussion and felt more like a "this chick and her video gave me feelings" post, and what little points that were actually mentioned seemed to be all over the place. It felt more like a stream-of-consciousness post than a discussion post, and from the responses it seems like others felt the same, including at least one MOD.


Wow you just explained 90% of dakka. Maybe more. The mods must be busy people locking and deleting posts that they leave so many others untouched.

And I find a lot of topics posted on dakka worthless. I don't tell a moderator they should be locked. I just move on. . .
   
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Secret Squirrel






Leerstetten, Germany

All anyone can do is tell you why a certain type of thread is usually locked, provide you with the appropriate ways to address any concerns you have with moderator action, and mention what sorts of responses are usually frowned upon by our MODs.

What you do with that information, and how you incorporate it into your posting habits on DakkaDakka is really up to you.
   
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Solahma






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When the same thread generates a lot of modalerts from users along the lines of "pointless thread," "blog post," etc., and I agree, I lock it. That's what happened here.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I can't believe that was pointless. Talking about US politics is pointless. Talking about ISIS is pointless. Talking about a lot of gak is pointless.

And I am not sure what made my post a 'blog post' unless it was because I injected how I felt about what happened, which I do in just about all of my posts, so I am at a lost how any of my posts are still viewable.

I mean if I was offensive, or threatening, I could understand, but that was relevant news at it recently happened. All you are tell me is to post a topic, be less wordy, and don't inject an opinion.
   
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No need to go all Kafka on us.

Maybe really look at why you're posting stuff and what you're hoping to achieve.

I mean, it is fairly obvious most times, at least to many.

 KTG17 wrote:

And I am not sure what made my post a 'blog post' unless it was because I injected how I felt about what happened, which I do in just about all of my posts, so I am at a lost how any of my posts are still viewable.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




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I thought the post was interesting and had potential, but was a bit muddied by a kind of stream-of-consciousness/wall of text writing style that made it difficult respond to. I imagine the "favorite female shooter" comment put some people's back up, too. I was thinking about the best way to contribute to what I felt was the overall thrust of the post, which was "Monsters can be people, too".

Ultimately, it's the OT section of a toy soldiers site. Gakposting all over the place just looks like someone got all salty and butthurt. Take the hit and move on. Life isn't fair.

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At the end of the day this is a discussion forum, if people wanted to read blogs they'd read blogs.

I'm guessing people read your wall of text and at the end (or maybe half way through) thought "this is a waste of time" and reported it as an opinion piece/blog rather than a discussion starter.

Starting a thread with a succinct discussion starter and then coming in with a 2nd post with your actual feelings and opinions (or even just dividing your 1st post up somewhat) isn't just trying to get around the rules, it makes for better discussion and thus why those threads don't get locked as easily.

Why? Because people get the gist of the discussion immediately and then either ignore or scan your wall of text blog style feels.
   
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I don't usually post much because I often edit myself before I even start a post.

I ask myself things like:
What do I plan to achieve with this post? (Don't know? Don't post)
Am I actually posting anything or am I rambling about stuff? (Don't know? Don't post)
Am I making sense? (Not sure? Don't post)

So, having a goal, is important. Making sure you don't come off as too crazy, is important. Aiming to stimulate healthy conversation is important.
The MODs pay attention because it's their job to. This place would be a cesspool if they didn't. That's why we have an OT section because it is needed but also not to be left unmoderated.

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The fact that the post lacks any kind of question or topic sentence is an issue, in my opinion. It goes straight into your opinion, and doesn't give the room or space for a discussion on the topic, because a point of discussion is never clarified.

The things I see is this:
No question or topic sentence - you don't pose a question or what aspect to discuss in this story.

You just go straight in with a very long opinion, without really focusing on a point or topic, again. This is acceptable further in the thread, once a topic has been established, but jumping straight in with an opinion very quickly kills discussion.

There's no throughline or overall POINT to be made, despite all those words. Again, this comes down to topic and what you want other people to focus on. If you're starting a thread, it should be because you want to talk about it WITH other people, not TO. And going in all guns blazing with no prompts for other people to reply, alongside a wall of text OP, is certainly giving off vibes of the latter.

Your attitude of spamming other threads and trying to derail other threads isn't very mature. PMing a Mod would have been more productive. Spamming and acting aggressive won't do you favours.


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