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A few weeks back I put up a poll about what people would like to see once GW has finished the initial codex updates.

61% went for refreshed kits with 20% going for new kits. So off of the back of that I was wondering, if your army could only have 3 new/refreshed kits what would you choose and why.

As a kick off I thought I'd go with a few of the factions I play.

Spacemarines

Plastic Spartan/Cerberus/Typhon kit LoW choice - This is the one unit option that they really lack and the kit could be given to SM, BA, DA & CSM.

New Predator kit - Combine the two current kits into one, adding the Mega Melta & Plasma Executioner from FW, with a generic Tank commander option (new HQ) much in the same way as how the Leman Russ kit was refreshed. Again this could go for SM, BA, DA & CSM, even TS as well. This is meant to be the main battle tank but is lacking in some love compared to other parts of the range

Finally, The basic Dreadnought kit, have this kit armed with Heavy Bolters, Autocannons & Multi Melts options with the similar slot fit (weapon into arm) used on the Venerable Dreadnought, this would give us back the majority of options we lost between the Indexes and the Codex



Tau

New Hammerhead kit with more turret options and a generic tank commander option (new HQ), as with SM, this is meant to be the main battle tank, lets see it get the kind of love XV8 suits have had.

Kroot squads (assuming they don't get their own book) with additional options (Sniper and full CC) - limited and old, the need a refresh

Krootox squad in plastic with options for other weapons - these need to be out of fine caste.


Finally DeathGuard

Plague tower as a LoW option - in the same vain SM one of the few real gaps they have is a universal LoW choice

A DG flyer - some kind of slow plague bomber (so not Super Sonic but hard to down), again as this is the other unit type the book is missing

A DG version of Havoc with some mid-range anti tank weapons (36" range?)



So if you could pick just 3 kits, what would you want to see.

For World Eaters id love a terminator variant (chaos assault terms), an anti-psyker (sorcerer but only with a buttload of deny the witch ) and maybe a rhino that carries 8 models but is faster (tougher by a hair. Like 2 more inches and a few more wounds.

For the thousand sons:
A psychic dreadnought!
Rubric havoc's with infernal heavy bolters
Rubric close combat guys. There is a FW kit with dual force sword.

For world eaters:
A new berserkers kit. Like the blood warrior kit with lots of posing option.
A new rhino kit, with options for predator upgrades. (All of them)
Daemon primarch angron!

For CSM:
New chosen.
New characters (Abaddon, Lucius, Huron) or new chaos lord kit.
New obliterater/mutilator.

 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
For the thousand sons:
A psychic dreadnought!
Rubric havoc's with infernal heavy bolters
Rubric close combat guys. There is a FW kit with dual force sword.

For world eaters:
A new berserkers kit. Like the blood warrior kit with lots of posing option.
A new rhino kit, with options for predator upgrades. (All of them)
Daemon primarch angron!

For CSM:
New chosen.
New characters (Abaddon, Lucius, Huron) or new chaos lord kit.
New obliterater/mutilator.

I think the current Berzerks are fine, but I totally forgot about Angron!

Daemon Primarch Perturabo - for selfish reasons
Chosen - they need an actual kit all together
Cultists - they need an actual customizable kit ala Cadians

Dark Eldar

Succubus on Jetboke
Archon on Hoverboard
Absdruael Vect on Dais of Destruction (Dual kit for on and off Dais)

For Chaos Space Marines:

#1: I am going to cheat a little bit and say Chosen, but I would use them as regular CSM as well. I just want the sprue to have enough weapon options for both. Bonus points if I could also use it for Havocs (after enough boxes). However, I don't want them going all Primaris on me. Although, I am pretty sure that is exactly what GW is going to do.

#2: Abbadon. His current model is just not up to even low standards of today's miniatures. Board games are beginning to out pace it.

#3: Terminators. I don't mind the Horus Heresy look (Cataphractii Pattern) which they probably should be given it seems like the best source of where most CSM got them. I don't really want to have to Chaos up the current models to use them though. I also think it would be nice for Chaos to have a couple of Terminator unit options.

World Eaters:
Angron,
Juggernaught mounted Berzerkers,
Red Butcher Terminators

Emperor's Children:
DOOM RIDER!
DOOM RIDER!
DOOM RIDER!

Orks are likely to get new models with a codex but:

1. New ghaz model
2. Skorcha/buggy/wartrakk kit as the current model is from second edition!
3. I want a dope ass warboss kit with tons of options for poses and weapons. Hell maybe even an option to make a standard warboss in mega armor. An all encompassing warboss kit.

I won't address CSM as my entire army is made of non-Chaos kits because I dislike the Chaos aesthetic, so that's a moot point.

Eldar? Simple, three dual-kits for plastic Aspect Warriors. Failing that, a three-model kit which allows the consumer to build any Farseers/Warlocks/Spirit Seers out of it. Simple.

 Elbows wrote:
I won't address CSM as my entire army is made of non-Chaos kits because I dislike the Chaos aesthetic, so that's a moot point.

Well wouldn't that be a request for some CSM kits that are a variation from the normal spikes and skulls aesthetic?

Ad Mech: Transport, flyer, less stupid looking Dakkabots.

New Triumvates: Gazz, Yarrik, Angron demon?

Plastic Pheonix Lords set.

Space Marines:

I would really like an upgraded oldmarine command squad kit. The old one is certainly not bad, but I think you could do so many cool things with that. Leave all options in it (eg apothecary, ancient and champion). Heck, you could even do a dual-kit with the honour guard. Though I think the bling factor of HG is a tad bit higher than regular command squads. Still, something along those lines would be nice.

Next up, a new commander kit with distinct options of building a lieutenant. Again, the old commander box is certainly nice, but a few weapon options are missing. You could really do something cool with that. And, again, oldmarines, please. Nothing against Primaris, but I still prefer those old models!

Last but not least, I think I will just quote ScarVet, as he already said what I think would be cool:

ScarVet101 wrote:

Spacemarines

New Predator kit - Combine the two current kits into one, adding the Mega Melta & Plasma Executioner from FW, with a generic Tank commander option (new HQ) much in the same way as how the Leman Russ kit was refreshed. Again this could go for SM, BA, DA & CSM, even TS as well. This is meant to be the main battle tank but is lacking in some love compared to other parts of the range

Alternatively, what about a new Whirlwind/Scorpius kit?

Im gonna pick Orkz. We desperately need a new Warboss kit (Mega Armor, Bike, Foot). Then, I would suggest new Buggies. The drivers in the kit are the size of Gretchin!

Lastly, I would like to see a return of 'Ard Boyz (mostly since I have a fair number of the metal upgrade bitz)

 Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
Orks are likely to get new models with a codex but:

1. New ghaz model
2. Skorcha/buggy/wartrakk kit as the current model is from second edition!
3. I want a dope ass warboss kit with tons of options for poses and weapons. Hell maybe even an option to make a standard warboss in mega armor. An all encompassing warboss kit.

First two quite likely. Third will come after hell freezes though :(

Proper ork mbt rather than transport/mbt hybrid. One that can be real threat to vehicles

Necrons:

Plastic flayed ones

Plastic characters that are currently finecast

New Destroyers

SM

Plastic ThunderHawk

New scouts

New bikes

torblind wrote:
Necrons:

Plastic flayed ones

Plastic characters that are currently finecast

New Destroyers

Destroyers that don't look like a balding toilet brush would be an awesome start. Definitely agree with the other 2 aswell, though I want to squeeze some less comic Warrior sculpts in there somewhere.

Eldar:

Plastic Avatar of Khaine
Any 2 plastic aspect warriors. Your choice. Please.

AdMech:

Transport
Another middle/range HQ option
A flyer

Nurgle
Three new units, all ranged ones. I'd like to participate in the Shooting phase, please.

Imperium
Nah, they good.

Dark Eldar
-Heavy Support for Wych Cult.
-Updated HQs, with lots of options.
-Maybe a LoW? Just for funsies.

Space Marines:

Bikes
Scouts
Dreadnought

(Would also like to see a plastic techmarine/TFC and re-cut pred/WWs, but they don’t make my top 3)

Eldar:
Aspect warriors. Combine what you can into multi-kits, or just singles. Probably get 3 boxes here easy.
Rangers

Custodes

Solar Auxilia - as a new Troops choice, would give a cheap way to fill detachments without soup.

Plastic Multi-part Contemptor Dreadnought Kit - Could make a Custodes Contemptor with all the various 30K weapons options and the Achillus and Galatus variants.

 Elbows wrote:
Eldar? Simple, three dual-kits for plastic Aspect Warriors.

Easily this.
- Swooping Hawk/ Banshee kit -similar 'running/leaping' poses
- Fire Dragon/ Dark Reaper kit -identical shooting stance
- Scorpion/ Warp Spider kit -similar 'crouching' stance

All 3 kits would share the same bodies and just have head and weapon swaps. You also only have 1 "big" bit in each kit. Wings, Reaper launcher and Warp Jump generator.
If you mix them in any other way you skew the amount of plastic each kit has.
For example, if you pair Scorpions/Banshees (both have pistol/melee weapon) and Hawks/Spiders (both jump infantry), the Hawk/Spider kit will HAVE to be more expensive than the Scorpion/Banshee kit because you have Wings and Jump generator in the kit.

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Space Wolves: a new Ragnar Blackmane. No other models are needed IMHO.

Drukhari: a new Drazhar model, a new named character for the kabals (they currently have none), a ranged heavy support choice for coven and wych cults since they currently have none, the coven can't even bring flyers.

Orks: a new gun boat tank like the leman russ/predator, new buggies models, a biker character that can be assembled as a warboss, big mek or painboy.

For SM/DA:
1. Techmarine on bike. This entry has been in the dex for as long as I can remember. It's a good conversion opportunity, but still should get a model for it.
2. Librarian on Bike: same as above
3. Chaplain on a bike: used to have a kit, but now discontinued. I use a converted asmodai but still should get a xedicated model.

Ragnar blackmane desperately needs an update.

Rune priest in terminator armour needs the same.

Njal in pa needs a plastic kit.

 Galef wrote:

For example, if you pair Scorpions/Banshees (both have pistol/melee weapon) and Hawks/Spiders (both jump infantry), the Hawk/Spider kit will HAVE to be more expensive than the Scorpion/Banshee kit because you have Wings and Jump generator in the kit.

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Ummh that\s only issue if they can't fit them on roughly same sprue size. Amount of plastic itself is irrelevant.

Dark Angels

1) The Lion
Don't think I need to say why!

2) Primaris Drop Pod
Primaris desperately need a way of getting up the field more efficiently than the Repulsor. I'd actually prefer they just let Primaris ride in normal transports, but failing that I'd take this.

3) New Deathwing Sprue allowing Combi-plasmas as a replacement for Storm Bolters.
Deathwing armies have been a thing since 2nd edition, and it's been about the same length of time since they've been any good! Decent squad wide ranged damage would go a long way to fixing that, and would look cool as all hell.

Primaris Hellblaster variant with Super Lascannons
Primaris APC - (rhino/razorback type)
Primaris hover bikers

I was reading through this thread again and realized a sad trend. Note how many people requested a great multi-part kit with options for a Warlord of their army? With the current GW direction, we'll probably get the opposite of that; a $35 single plastic sprue with one (maaaaybe two) weapon options, and all other options removed from the codex in future days, etc.

So, I guess be careful what you wish for. I can already smell the Ork tears if they release a new plastic Warboss kit and it has a single pistol, and an option for a power klaw or axe...and that's it. This is the single worst failing of GW in recent days and something which will hinder my enthusiasm going forward.

Shame, really. Doubly so when you consider how good their infantry dual kits normally are (and how many options are included on those). I'd even go so far as to say I'd warrant a $35 price tag on a single character if it came with half a dozen heads, 5-6 weapon options, a ton of personalization bits - akin to the wonderful Fantasy wizard kit from a while back. If you're going to charge an arm and a leg...allow the players to get something out of it rather than "hey you get these weapons, deal with it".