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2018/04/25 09:04:37
Subject: [2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
Troop: Immortal x 5 (40) Tesla x 5 (45) = 85pts
Troop: Immortal x 5 (40) Tesla x 5 (45) = 85pts
Troop: Immortal x 5 (40) Tesla x 5 (45) = 85pts
Elite: C’tan shard of the Deceiver (Trans dimensional Thunderbolt, Anti-Matter Meteor)= 225pts
Heavy Support: Doomsday Ark = 193pts
Heavy Support: Doomsday Ark = 193pts
Detachment total = 1041pts
Outrider Detachment
Keyword: nephrekh
HQ: Cryptek(70) Staff of Light (10) Cape (5) = 85
Fast attack: Canoptek Scarabs x 3 = 39pts
Fast attack: Canoptek Scarabs x 3 = 39pts
Fast attack: Destroyer x 6 (180) Gauss Cannon x 6 (120) = 300pts
Detachment total = 463pts
Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment
Keyword: Sautekh
Lord of War: Terreract Vault = 496 pts (Cosmic Fire, Seismic Assault, sky of falling stars, Times Arrow)
Army Total = 2000/2000pts
is my first attempt which to be fair, im fairly happy with. but would be intrested in any views. Though before commenting on the MSU of immortals, i encourage you to try them for yourself. they take a lot more fire power to kill than they are worth. and if in cover will stay around for most the game assuming the opponent doesn't waste their good shots onto them
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To be fair, I aim my lists for all round tournament lists, as believe even in a friendly games you should give it your best.
Mainly because if you beat someone who isn't playing their best, its not as rewarding. (though not a great fan of spamming the same unit so happy for the 3 data slate rule)
I don't believe your list is invalid. The C'tan powers can't be duplicated until all 6 have been chosen. Then you can take them again. If you randomly roll for them, they can be duplicated
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2018/04/25 14:11:15
Subject: [2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
Thor0298 wrote: I don't believe your list is invalid. The C'tan powers can't be duplicated until all 6 have been chosen. Then you can take them again. If you randomly roll for them, they can be duplicated
Where do you see this. The only thing I see is you can't have duplicate powers on the same Model/unit.
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I assume you are going sautekh for methodological destruction? I wonder if there is a better dynasty, where you can take advantage of both the code and the dynasty specific stratagem. Also what is your plan for dealing with hordes?
Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon.
2018/04/26 05:27:04
Subject: [2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
The vault shot 20 times with S7 tesla, he can obliterate a horde alone .
Not a big fan of doomsday, i prefer to put point on more destro/Scarab.
I like the Immo bataillon, i play the same with mephrit code.
PLAYER : Minh
DETACHMENT : Bataillon MEPHRIT
HQ1 : Cryptek (1*70), Chronométron(15) [95]
HQ2 : Lord(1*73), Le Voile des Ténèbres [83]
Troup1 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Troup2 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Troup3 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Elite1 : C'Tan Shard Of The Deceiver(1*225), Décharge Transdimensionnelle, Météore d'Antimatière [225]
Total detachment : 658
Grimgold wrote:I assume you are going sautekh for methodological destruction? I wonder if there is a better dynasty, where you can take advantage of both the code and the dynasty specific stratagem. Also what is your plan for dealing with hordes?
You cant use the codes with the detachment its in. so its down to what strat helps it the most. Think methodological destruction benefits it the most.
Also agree with Minh for anti hoards
Minh wrote:The vault shot 20 times with S7 tesla, he can obliterate a horde alone .
Not a big fan of doomsday, i prefer to put point on more destro/Scarab.
I like the Immo bataillon, i play the same with mephrit code.
PLAYER : Minh
DETACHMENT : Bataillon MEPHRIT
HQ1 : Cryptek (1*70), Chronométron(15) [95]
HQ2 : Lord(1*73), Le Voile des Ténèbres [83]
Troup1 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Troup2 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Troup3 : 5 Immortals (40), 5 Carabine Tesla (45) [85]
Elite1 : C'Tan Shard Of The Deceiver(1*225), Décharge Transdimensionnelle, Météore d'Antimatière [225]
Total detachment : 658
DETACHMENT : Super-Heavy Auxiliary NIHILAK
Lord of War1 : Tesseract Vault (1*496), 4 Sphère Tesla [496]
Total detachment : 496
ARMY TOTAL [1992]
Dont feel like mephit fits too well, as not getting much benefit out of it, and lose ability to proc methodological destruction with the vault.
I do like lots of destroyers, but they useless turn one because of 24" range. have to come in turn 1. so feel one is a good balance as they need the strat to be better than doomsdays.
feel the doomsdays are one our best units, feel the vault is good at dishing out mortal wounds everywhere but not a lot on a single model. so this is where the doomsdays shine. as they can then put some serious damage on high wounds models
A C'tan and a Vault!
The List looks good would be interested in how well it does. I do think the vault is strong for its point cost. T7 with W28 and a 3+/4++ is a tough cookie to crack
2018/04/26 12:16:48
Subject: [2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
Well am aiming to use it at a tournament at element games on the 6th May
so will keep posted. other list went 4-1 last weekend. so can say my other list is fairly strong. just need to get used to remembering all my useful strats
Thor0298 wrote: I don't believe your list is invalid. The C'tan powers can't be duplicated until all 6 have been chosen. Then you can take them again. If you randomly roll for them, they can be duplicated
Where do you see this. The only thing I see is you can't have duplicate powers on the same Model/unit.
its in the second paragraph explaining how you either roll or choose. its says "you can instead choose the powers each of these units have, but if you do this you cannot choose a power for a second time until all six have been chosen"
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SirSwarmalot wrote: A C'tan and a Vault!
The List looks good would be interested in how well it does. I do think the vault is strong for its point cost. T7 with W28 and a 3+/4++ is a tough cookie to crack
i used it last weekend. Mine never got below 22 wounds but I think if I played the same guy again with the same list he would most likely completely ignore it and just shoot everything else. It did about 5-7 total a turn. I don't know how strong I would consider it for offense but if its a bullet magnet it will help the rest of the army out.. I need more games in to see if that wounds per turn goes up
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2018/05/11 15:50:06
Subject: [2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
i played with the vault twice. Once it was super underwhelming.. the second time he had so many units clumped together that I was able to do tons of mortal wounds. But I agree it is in general underwhelming
2018/05/11 17:00:36
Subject: Re:[2000] - Necron - First list with the Vault
I quite like the list, though it may be because its almost identical to my own, minus the Deceiver
I see lots of people going for the cheap Cryptek in their outrider detachment, I prefer to spend a few more points to pick up a CCB or Destroyer Lord, with the right artifact I think they can be more of a nuisance than the Cryptek
9 out of 40 is a good result! How did the Deceiver perform? I can see the benefit of moving the Vault up close early on, did you support it with Scarabs or the Immortals? I'll link my similar 2k list below if you were curious:
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95 Overlord, Warscythe, Hyperlogical Strategist
85 Cryptek, Cloak
102 (6) Immortals, Tesla
102 (6) Immortals, Tesla
102 (6) Immortals, Tesla
193 Doomsday Ark
193 Doomsday Ark
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