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Made in vn
Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel






People are saying primaris marines have been fighting for like 100 years now and some even were about in the 30k? I'm super confused right now... when did this happen and when was this said? And why didn't the emperor be all like "yo, those marines are different Girlyman! They're not mah children!". Is this just GW trying to trick us i to liking primaris by saying they were hear all this time we just didn't see them? (I like primaris models but don't understand the lore and don't like what i have heard).
   
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Courageous Space Marine Captain






The timeline has moved on, Primaris marines were introduced over a century ago. Also, the Primaris project has been running for thousands of years (my headcanon is that the Cursed Founding was an early attempt to make Primaris Marines.) Primaris test subjects were normal recruits from marine chapters, and some of them were held in stasis for long periods of time before being turned into Marines, so they can be from distant past. As for why Emperor didn't say anything? Perhaps this was his plan along, and Mechanicus is just trying to complete his work? Or perhaps he is just a vegetable and and that's why he doesn't say anything... Who knows?

   
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

A bit more detail here:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Primaris_Space_Marines
Been building up these guys for 10,000 years and some initial applicants released for bolstering marine chapters as issues arose.
Decimus Felix is particularly interesting and adds to the story for moving forward.

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Napoleon Bonaparte 
   
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel






Yeah for some reason wiki links don't work in vietnam. XD
   
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar






No what they mean was that for 10k year marry sue cawl has been working on them. They have not hit the field until just 100 years ago

To many unpainted models to count. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Eastern Ontario

 Backspacehacker wrote:
No what they mean was that for 10k year marry sue cawl has been working on them. They have not hit the field until just 100 years ago


Cawl most certainly does not meet the definition of a Mary Sue. The Mechanicum hates him, Guilliman distrusts him, and it took him far longer to make minor improvements to Space Marines than it took for the emperor to make the Thunder Warriors and the Space Marines and the Custodes from whole cloth.

But more on topic...

Cawl started working on the Primaris marines sometime before Guilliman went into stasis but after the Heresy.
Some of the Primaris recruits were drawn from around the time of the Crusade - they've just spent the last ~10,000 years in and out of stasis as experimental test subjects, awakened only when needed for some data or what-have-you.

When Guilliman returned he started the Indomitus Crusade and made the existence of the Primaris known to the wider Imperium. It's been ~130 or so years since then by the time the novel Dark Imperium (and the "current" canon of the timeline) takes place.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. 
   
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Norn Queen






 Kawauso wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
No what they mean was that for 10k year marry sue cawl has been working on them. They have not hit the field until just 100 years ago


Cawl most certainly does not meet the definition of a Mary Sue. The Mechanicum hates him, Guilliman distrusts him, and it took him far longer to make minor improvements to Space Marines than it took for the emperor to make the Thunder Warriors and the Space Marines and the Custodes from whole cloth.
The fact he is still breathing (does he even have lungs?) makes him a Mary Sue.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Eastern Ontario

 BaconCatBug wrote:
The fact he is still breathing (does he even have lungs?) makes him a Mary Sue.


Again, that's not the correct usage of that term.

Besides, Goge Vandire ruled for decades before his reign was ended. It's not like he was dealt with overnight.
Saying that Cawl getting away with heresy for now means he will therefore never face negative consequences for his actions is a bit of a leap. His story is really only just beginning, where his impact on the current timeline is concerned.

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Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. 
   
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion





 BaconCatBug wrote:
 Kawauso wrote:
 Backspacehacker wrote:
No what they mean was that for 10k year marry sue cawl has been working on them. They have not hit the field until just 100 years ago


Cawl most certainly does not meet the definition of a Mary Sue. The Mechanicum hates him, Guilliman distrusts him, and it took him far longer to make minor improvements to Space Marines than it took for the emperor to make the Thunder Warriors and the Space Marines and the Custodes from whole cloth.
The fact he is still breathing (does he even have lungs?) makes him a Mary Sue.



Why are you assuming assasination attempts haven't been made? thing is Cawl is not going to be an easy man to target.(assuming he IS one man, and not some weird gestalt conciousness) he has his own, hidden, facilities, his own people whom are presumably all loyal to him, and who knows what else that Gulliman assigned him (would it really suprise anyone if Cawl had a chapter of Primaris Marines attached to him as a guard force?) It's also HIGHLY likely Cawl is defended by the Aquilian Shield of the Custodes.

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

Gulliman is a consummate statesman, I am sure he is well away of the tensions between different elements of the Imperium. In spite of Cawl's usefulness, Gulliman has resisted appointing him Fabricator-General (as position he desperately wants). Presumably this is because he knows this would risk schisming the AdMech. On the other hand, Cawl has done well so far and if he manages to unlock the secret of the Necron Pylons, Guilliman may have no choice but to promote him, in spite of the consequences.

I stand between the darkness and the light. Between the candle and the star. 
   
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Yellin' Yoof





There is roughly a century between the end of Gathering Storm and the start of the Plague Wars...
   
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 BaconCatBug wrote:
The fact he is still breathing (does he even have lungs?) makes him a Mary Sue.


40k's universe isn't as cut and blam as it's memed to be. You want to see how far things can spiral out of control in a relatively short time period in the imperium go check out the book 'cult of the spiral dawn'.

All it takes is certain tacit approvals and even known problems to fester, and how much is actually properly known in 40k? Further given what happens every time you let an admech near a tomb world I'm going to say that maybe the admech allows a lot of things it claims not to.
   
 
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