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http://cubicle7.co.uk/warhammer-fantasy-roleplay-pre-order-opens-this-week/

The Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Fourth Edition pre-order opens later this week! To whet your appetite, here are 4 things you can expect from the new edition of this beloved game.

Your Warhammer for You!
Something that is really core to our WFRP is that we’ve created tools for you to play your Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. We recognise and support that everyone plays their own version of the rules and the setting, and we fully embrace and encourage that. It’s your game! With 30 years of history under its belt, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay means a lot of things to a huge number of players.

Ideal starting point
Not much experience with RPGs? The Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Starter Set is designed to be the ideal introduction, with a structured adventure to help you learn how to play. Also containing a guide to Ubersreik, there’s loads of gaming material for more experienced GMs too!

System matters
WFRP4 uses ten-sided dice, and a tuned-up version of the familiar d100 system. You can tailor the rules to your preferences or different in-game situations, choosing from a menu of fast ‘roll under’ Simple Tests, Dramatic Tests giving success levels where you need more than a ‘yes or no’ result, and even barely rolling at all, if that’s your style.

Passion for Warhammer
Our creative team are lifelong players of the three previous editions of the game, and between us we’ve worked on all these editions too! We bloomin’ love Warhammer, and we think it shows.

We’ll be bringing you more on WFRP4 regularly, so watch this space! And, very excitingly, pre-orders go live on Thursday…

now in fact !

http://shop.cubicle7store.com/epages/es113347.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/es113347_shop/Categories/New-releases

Sneak peak of the available bestiary would help seal the deal on this purchase.

Do these warhammer systems let you play the unfriendly races - vampires, greenskins, skaven, etc - or is it the typical selection of dwarf, humies and pointy ears?

I dont know anything about the previous editions... I have been feverishly painting random models in anticipation for this however. lol

 TedNugent wrote:
Do these warhammer systems let you play the unfriendly races - vampires, greenskins, skaven, etc - or is it the typical selection of dwarf, humies and pointy ears?

Normally it is indeed the usual old world races -- human, elf , dwarf etc etc .

In 2nd edition they released various sourcebooks in which it was possible to run skaven characters/campaigns and chaos ones, and there were stats for chaos dwarfs included too IIRC.

... one suspects this'll be the same, at least initially .

I just want a variety of monsters and not just goblins, orcs and skaven. Was previous additions good about monster variety?

Most of the warhammer monsters were covered one way or another :

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/62848/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-2nd-Edition-Old-World-Bestiary?cPath=179_4943

http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse/pub/54/Cubicle-7-Entertainment-Ltd/subcategory/179_4943/Warhammer-Fantasy-Roleplay-2nd-Edition

the skaven and vampire books were really great IMO and I loved both the corruption and salvation tomes too.

This is for the Old Hammer world only yea? Are they also releasing Sigmar world?

str00dles1 wrote:
This is for the Old Hammer world only yea? Are they also releasing Sigmar world?

Yeah, they're still doing the AOS RPG, too, which their site still says "in 2018" (and I've seen reports that the latest White Dwarf said the same thing). I'm more looking forward to that, actually, since I never really did classic WHFB but do actually like the potential of the AOS setting.

It's nice to be able to be on this side of the snark for once: fnar fnar this is a thread about WHFRP, there's one for AoS already, stay on topic fnar

That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

That would be cool if this edition plays out during that time frame and then the AoS one was more after the fact. I honestly would like the AoS setting, but dont want to play as a SpaceMarine.

I took the release as a Dark Hersey / Deathwatch setup.

 notprop wrote:
That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

Eh, I hope they aren't actually doing End Times. I like the low key nature of WHFRP. It was essentially lower case End Times, all time, all the time.

Definitely something I'd consider getting...always liked the old one pretty well, and I'm a bigger fan of D100 generally.

I'd be curious to see how complete the book is though. Seeing far too much DLC-mindset trickling into tabletop games and role-playing games lately. I'd like to know that $70+ is getting me a proper book with proper content.

Can't wait to see more.

Glad to see this is coming out soon. I've been chosen to be my group's next DM, and some of the players have expressed interest in playing something other than D&D 5e. Right now, I'm leaning toward Dragon AGE, but I'll have to look through this as well. I like d10 systems.

 notprop wrote:
That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

I very much hope not. The initial word was they were sticking with Enemy Within, and while I found that a somewhat safe and disappointing choice(going back and doing Mordheim-era Three Emperors would be both something a bit fresh for players without going too far outside the Empire comfort zone, and mean lots of new sourcebooks to sell for them), I'll take it every day of the week and ten times on sunday over the godawful End Times cashgrab.

A revamped WHFRP is appealing primarily because it lets people get as far away from GW's abysmal handling of the IP as possible, I have zero interest in playing in a setting where I can't adventure in half the world because it's been wiped out "off-screen".

Hmm - it mentions hardback available in July. Last I heard, this was meant to be available at UK Games Expo at the start of June - anyone know if this is still the case?

 Yodhrin wrote:

 notprop wrote:
That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

I very much hope not. The initial word was they were sticking with Enemy Within, and while I found that a somewhat safe and disappointing choice(going back and doing Mordheim-era Three Emperors would be both something a bit fresh for players without going too far outside the Empire comfort zone, and mean lots of new sourcebooks to sell for them), I'll take it every day of the week and ten times on sunday over the godawful End Times cashgrab.

A revamped WHFRP is appealing primarily because it lets people get as far away from GW's abysmal handling of the IP as possible, I have zero interest in playing in a setting where I can't adventure in half the world because it's been wiped out "off-screen".

Amen to that. I am looking forward to running games in the Old World. Plus the content will be easy enough to set back during Mordheim or possible run an alternate endtimes with the forces of order defeating chaos and exploring the world wracked by it. Maybe even rebuild the Old World.

already ordered and looking forward to preordering the AoS rpg as well

 Dysartes wrote:
Hmm - it mentions hardback available in July. Last I heard, this was meant to be available at UK Games Expo at the start of June - anyone know if this is still the case?

They have said that no, the game will not be available at UKGE

I've also seen them talk about WFRP 4 being able to be played in the old time period, all the way through to End Times if you want to.

 endtransmission wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Hmm - it mentions hardback available in July. Last I heard, this was meant to be available at UK Games Expo at the start of June - anyone know if this is still the case?

They have said that no, the game will not be available at UKGE

I've also seen them talk about WFRP 4 being able to be played in the old time period, all the way through to End Times if you want to.

Can't be that hard, right? If they're writing the rules for the whole setting anyway, adding another book to the pile with rules changes and a campaign setting for the End Times isn't going to be much work and gets them money from people primarily interested in that or Age of Sigmar.

It's almost free money for Cubicle 7/GW and the best part is that if you don't want the End Times to ruin your fun, you can ignore it because it isn't baked into the core rules.

I'm actually tempted to wait for the AoS version, but nice to see this is out on its preorder.. Vampire the Masquerade 5th going onto preorder in the same week hasn't helped my wallet mind.

 endtransmission wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Hmm - it mentions hardback available in July. Last I heard, this was meant to be available at UK Games Expo at the start of June - anyone know if this is still the case?

They have said that no, the game will not be available at UKGE

Well, that's one less thing for me to pick up at the Expo, then, I guess.

I just need to see if there is a bestiary in the book. I remember 8th Edition rule book being 50/50 rules and just art pictures... I want to know if GW forced them to cram 100 pages of Golden Daemon painted models into this... =/

...into an RPG book? Unlikely.

It was an example. I wouldnt put it past them to put way more art work in it than needed though. Seems very backwards to ask for pre order money with no information on the product though.

Do we already have info on potential translation ? I've seen mainly asking for Spanish and French.

I will buy it in English anyway (even if I hope Cubicle7 books are better translated than GW ones...), but still.

And same question for the AOS one. Really looking forward to this one too (as it seems to me that WFRP 4e won't be too much a "new" product in term of fluff for someone who played 1st and 3rd edition).

 Commissar-Danno wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 notprop wrote:
That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

I very much hope not. The initial word was they were sticking with Enemy Within, and while I found that a somewhat safe and disappointing choice(going back and doing Mordheim-era Three Emperors would be both something a bit fresh for players without going too far outside the Empire comfort zone, and mean lots of new sourcebooks to sell for them), I'll take it every day of the week and ten times on sunday over the godawful End Times cashgrab.

A revamped WHFRP is appealing primarily because it lets people get as far away from GW's abysmal handling of the IP as possible, I have zero interest in playing in a setting where I can't adventure in half the world because it's been wiped out "off-screen".

Amen to that. I am looking forward to running games in the Old World. Plus the content will be easy enough to set back during Mordheim or possible run an alternate endtimes with the forces of order defeating chaos and exploring the world wracked by it. Maybe even rebuild the Old World.

I'd love for the game to be set post-Empire in Flames, new Emperor and all, and go from there. Hell, they could even justify an ongoing timeline with no End Times since it was already a divergent timeline from the tabletop one.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Commissar-Danno wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 notprop wrote:
That said the Starter states the Adventure is based in Ubersreik which is where Vermintide is set; which is to say End Times...looks like it’ll cover all bases to me.

I very much hope not. The initial word was they were sticking with Enemy Within, and while I found that a somewhat safe and disappointing choice(going back and doing Mordheim-era Three Emperors would be both something a bit fresh for players without going too far outside the Empire comfort zone, and mean lots of new sourcebooks to sell for them), I'll take it every day of the week and ten times on sunday over the godawful End Times cashgrab.

A revamped WHFRP is appealing primarily because it lets people get as far away from GW's abysmal handling of the IP as possible, I have zero interest in playing in a setting where I can't adventure in half the world because it's been wiped out "off-screen".

Amen to that. I am looking forward to running games in the Old World. Plus the content will be easy enough to set back during Mordheim or possible run an alternate endtimes with the forces of order defeating chaos and exploring the world wracked by it. Maybe even rebuild the Old World.

I'd love for the game to be set post-Empire in Flames, new Emperor and all, and go from there. Hell, they could even justify an ongoing timeline with no End Times since it was already a divergent timeline from the tabletop one.

Again, I'd strongly disagree on that one. I don't want to see, hear, read, or think about the End Times, or anything near or adjacent to it. All I want from a WHF RPG is WHF as-was, the setting I enjoyed for 25+ years that still had huge potential for new material within its existing scope. Half the planet was just big blank spaces on the map with a name and some vague concepts attached, if even that - I want Far Cathay and the jungles of Ind, I want Tilean intrigues and details of the Elven cities(and divergent cultures?) outside of Ulthuan, I want to adventure during the Empires of the Black Plague and Three Emperors and Vampire Wars eras, and battle Fimir in WHF's equivalent of the Dark Ages. They could churn out multiple sourcebooks a year for a decade and only cover a fraction of the Warhammer World's geography and history, and all of it is more interesting, at least to me, than another slight variation of the "modern" Empire especially if it's a version that incorporates any of the often truly daft events of the End Times "narrative"(or even the moderately daft Storm of Chaos stuff).

Chopxsticks wrote:
It was an example. I wouldnt put it past them to put way more art work in it than needed though. Seems very backwards to ask for pre order money with no information on the product though.

Not to be even more contrarian than usual, but I'd also disagree with this. The prospect of new artwork of the classic Warhammer World and its denizens is one of the most exciting things about 4thEd, so long as it's good and in the right kind of styles(ie, not too "plastic" and obviously digital); I honestly don't know if they can put enough art in the books for my taste, given they also have to fit all that "rules" guff in somewhere too