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Still trying to figure out what I'm doing with guard for Nova I got a little lascannon happy I guess but I've had too many games where my bassies and manticores couldn't take down a rhino in one turn...

Cadian Battalion
HQ: Company Commander
HQ: Company Commander

Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon

FA: Scout Sentinel w/multilaser
FA: Scout Sentinel w/multilaser

Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar

Cadian Battalion
HQ: Company Commander
HQ: Primaris Psyker

Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad

FA: Scout Sentinel w/multilaser

Heavy: HWT w/mortar

Catachan spearhead
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+LC
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+LC

Elite: Harker

Heavy: 2x Wyern w/HB
Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: Manitcore w/HB
Heavy: Manitcore w/HB




Automatically Appended Next Post:
tinkered some with it and came up with this instead:

Cadian Brigade detachment
HQ: Company Commander WL: Old Grudges
HQ: Company Commander Relic: Kurov’s Aquila
HQ: Company Commander

Elite: Sly Marbo
Elite: Platoon Commander
Elite: Platoon Commander

Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+Plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar

FA: Scout Sentinel w/autocannon
FA: Scout Sentinel w/autocannon
FA: Scout Sentinel w/autocannon

Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar

Catachan spearhead detachment
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+LC+HBs
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+LC+HBs

Elite: Harker

Heavy: 2x Wyern w/HB
Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2018/05/14 16:03:58


 
   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





USA

Looks pretty solid overall. Here are my nitpicks/advice/opinions

- Balance the mobility of your infantry. I would give half your infantry squads lascannon teams to make up your backline/deployment zone campers, and give the other half plasma guns so you can move them up the board to take objectives. Your armies appear to lack mobility, and this will help with that.

-Sentinels are in a bad spot IMO since opponents can't deepstrike outside their deployment zone turn 1 anymore. Their scout ability is less useful because of that. If you can, find a way to squeeze in hellhounds instead, as they are durable, fast, and an excellent distraction from your infantry creeping up. The Artemia patterns are the best.

- If you're going to have Catachan tank commanders, take advantage of the Catachan regimental bonus as much as possible. Drop their lascannons, and grab plasma cannon sponsons instead of HB sponsons. That way you're rerolling the number of shots you fire for 3 weapons, instead of just the battlecannon.


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Thanks for the feedback Chrispy. For your first point I think you're right - I should try and squeeze some points from somewhere to come up with 3 more plasma guns and move the 4th out that lascannon squad.

I agree sentinals are in an odd spot but they are 1/2 the cost of a hellhound. I can still use the sentinals for blocking infiltrating units or sneaking around and hide to get to objectives. They are about as tough as an infantry squad when you take into account it's toughness, wounds and save.

I'll have to look into your 3rd point definitely. Maybe drop a bassie to the plasma sponsons.
   
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Ok, I think this meets all of your suggestions and I do like it a lot better

Cadian Brigade detachment
HQ: Company Commander WL: Old Grudges
HQ: Company Commander Relic: Kurov’s Aquila
HQ: Company Commander Relic: Laurels of Command

Elite: Sly Marbo
Elite: Platoon Commander
Elite: Platoon Commander

Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun

FA: Hellhound w/Inferno cannon/HB/Track guards
FA: Scout Sentinel w/autocannon
FA: Scout Sentinel w/autocannon

Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar

Catachan spearhead detachment
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+HB+PCs
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+HB+PCs

Elite: Harker

Heavy: Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: 2x Wyern w/HB

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/16 04:32:35


 
   
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge





Looks pretty mean. I have two suggestions:

1, you have no psykers/psyker defense. Personally I feel it's necessary to give yourself at least one tool to deny the clutch cast that the enemy needs to pull off a combo, etc. Plus things like nightshroud and psychic barrier are incredible buffs.

2. Wyverns are pretty bunk. You could get 3 mortar squads for the same price (actually like 4-6 points less) and put out more damage against every target. Plus you can give orders to the mortar teams (take aim + stationary cadian mortars is great)

The executions will continue until morale improves  
   
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Thanks for the ideas Rex. I've tried running either astropaths or primaris psykers before and it's always left me with that buyers remorse feeling. They're either out of place to DTW or if I give a unit a bonus my opponent just shoots the stuff out of an unprotected identical unit.

As for wyverns vs HWTs I'm preparing myself for the "no more than three" slogan We, as IG, can skirt that a little by giving our infantry squads 1 which I do mostly to keep me below 10 models.
   
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Ok, so I dumped the Brigade for two Battalions. Took a slight CP hit but got an additional bassie out of it, two more infantry squads and a psyker. Tinkered with Elysians a little but they just didn't seem like a good fit even if they did buy me decent mobility with their aerial drop ability.

Cadian Battalion detachment 5CP
HQ: Company Commander Relic: Kurov’s Aquila
HQ: Company Commander Relic: Laurels of Command

Elite: Platoon Commander
Elite: Platoon Commander

Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon/Power sword
Troops: Infantry Squad w/Lascannon

Cadian Battalion detachment 5CP
HQ: Primaris Psyker WL: Old Grudges
HQ: Company Commander

Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun
Troops: Infantry Squad w/mortar+plasmagun

Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar
Heavy: HWT w/mortar

Catachan spearhead detachment 1CP
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+HB+PCs
HQ: Tank Commander w/BC+HB+PCs

Elite: Harker

Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: 2x Basilisk w/HB
Heavy: 2x Wyern w/HB
   
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Fighter Ace






I would say you could use a little more synergy in your infantry options. Why powerswords and lascannons? The last place you want a LC is in CC and the PS could be better placed elsewhere. Run them just LC. Plasma guns and mortars same thing; indirect heavy fire combo'd with rapid fire. I assume your doing two lines so do a backline of lascannons and sniper rifles, and a front line of plasma and heavy bolters. The ranges all line up much better.

Might be worth it to grab relic of lost cadia for 2 cp. None of the AM strategems are really mind blowing anyway but you could drop either of your current relics for it. Might wanna roll grand strategist as your warlord trait if you drop the Aquila but that's the less droppable of the two imhumbleo

I really like your artillery castle. Nice list!
   
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Bounding Assault Marine



Providence, RI

Cadian Marbo? Isn't he Catachan?
Have you faced ravenguard/alpha legion? A couple of minimum ratling squads can save your bacon against a devastating alpha strike.

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