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2018/06/05 20:25:08
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Right, so I just saw this in another thread:
Now according to the Poll that has sprouted this image, Birmingham is a Northern city but Lincoln isn't and Wales is also apparently in the North.
So I want to get some quick opinions from you lot on where you think the North and South divide is or where the North, South and Midlands divide is. Just state where you're from and what your opinion is (if you aren't from Britain you can still get involved if you know your Geography well enough).
I'll start:
I'm from Hull and I believe the North-Midlands divide is a line that starts at the mouth of the Humber, follows the base of Yorkshire, the base of Greater Manchester, the base of Merseyside and ends in the river Dee. The Midlands-South divide is a bit trickier but I'd say a line drawn from Norfolk to Gloucestershire would be about right. Wales has it's own North-South divide so I'll leave it out of this.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/06/05 20:31:14
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Building a blood in water scent
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North/South is just, like, a state of mind, maaaan.
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” |
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2018/06/05 20:33:42
Subject: Re:Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2018/06/05 20:38:42
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I don't associate myself with either the North or the South being from the Midlands.
Feck the lot of ya!
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2018/06/05 20:43:18
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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Anywhere North of Oxford is a wet and wild land where men breed whippets and wear flat caps.
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2018/06/05 20:43:47
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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feeder wrote:North/South is just, like, a state of mind, maaaan.
Until we can build the wall and then the Southerners will have to deal with Birmingham.
reds8n wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watford_Gap
There seems to be some disagreement in that link of where exactly the Watford line is.
An Actual Englishman wrote:I don't associate myself with either the North or the South being from the Midlands.
Feck the lot of ya!
Then where does the Midlands start and end? Automatically Appended Next Post: filbert wrote:Anywhere North of Oxford is a wet and wild land where men breed whippets and wear flat caps.
Aye up, you cheeky bugger, I'll set me Ferrets on you!
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/06/05 20:56:17
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Well it depends entirely on where you're looking from doesn't it?
From the North I would consider anything as far as Stafford to be part of the Midlands, though I hesitate because Staffs, Brummies and Yam Yams are all very different breeds of people. Most don't consider Staffs to be Midlands proper. The territory goes as far East as Leicester, Nuneaton and Rugby. Southerly I would say we go as far as Gloucester at a push, Evesham if that's too far for you.
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2018/06/05 20:57:04
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2018/06/05 20:58:33
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've never thought of drawing the line, but I wouldn't be put out with mrhappyface's lines.
Unless I feel like winding Mancs up and telling them they aren't really northerners, they're more like north-midlanders. You should see 'em bite. Manc baiting has to be one of my favourite hobbies.
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2018/06/05 21:01:44
Subject: Re:Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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I saw this on FB tentatively titled 'Britain according to people from London'.
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2018/06/05 21:03:20
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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An Actual Englishman wrote:From the North I would consider anything as far as Stafford to be part of the Midlands, though I hesitate because Staffs, Brummies and Yam Yams are all very different breeds of people.
I'd say Lichfield and Tamworth are most deffinitely midlands. Burton too. Stokies are a taxonomy unto themselves. I think they want to be northerners but secretly know they're never going to be accepted, like the scrawny kid at school who hovers around the cool kids hoping one day they'll recognise them.
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2018/06/05 21:03:49
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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How does the American understand British Geo-cultural differences in the UK better than most Brits? Automatically Appended Next Post: Ketara wrote:I saw this on FB tentatively titled 'Britain according to people from London'.
Eh, that's pretty close to the truth.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/05 21:06:09
Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/06/05 21:07:18
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Executing Exarch
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Mostly, although Bristol and further West gets its fair share of odd way of speaking (think the stock 'peasent' accent of any medieval film or most of the Hot Fuzz characters bar Pegg and Dolton)
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"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED." |
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2018/06/05 21:09:00
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Henry wrote: An Actual Englishman wrote:From the North I would consider anything as far as Stafford to be part of the Midlands, though I hesitate because Staffs, Brummies and Yam Yams are all very different breeds of people.
I'd say Lichfield and Tamworth are most deffinitely midlands. Burton too. Stokies are a taxonomy unto themselves. I think they want to be northerners but secretly know they're never going to be accepted, like the scrawny kid at school who hovers around the cool kids hoping one day they'll recognise them. Lol Midlanders don't want the Stokies. Clay banging saddos with awful football.
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2018/06/05 21:19:58
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Erm, how to put this...I'm the resident Potters fan.
...but I got to agree with the quality of football this year. We got what we deserved.
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2018/06/05 21:23:59
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I'm an Albion fan mate, there's not much I have to be proud of, football-wise.
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2018/06/05 21:32:30
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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If you're heading north on the M1 past J14 (the northern MK junction) then you're pretty much lost to the wastes.
Also, most of East Anglia and the entire south west are too rural and are basically honorary northerners.
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” |
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2018/06/05 21:37:12
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
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Riquende wrote:If you're heading north on the M1 past J14 (the northern MK junction) then you're pretty much lost to the wastes.
Also, most of East Anglia and the entire south west are too rural and are basically honorary northerners.
Whaaaaat honorary northerners,,, that’s fighting talk that is. I’m off to get my pitch fork.
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2018/06/05 21:49:54
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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The biggest divide has to be between London and everything outside the M25. Londoners live in a self absorbed bubble and are at odds with the rest of the UK in many ways.
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2018/06/05 22:18:03
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh, I just remembered. The original place this map came from didn't ask people whether they thought they were north or south.
People were given a list of town and city names, without looking at a map, and asked to label them as north or south.
So whilst people from Lincoln may consider themselves northerners, enough people who took the questionnaire decided they were southerners that they sit on the mid-way line. Same for Gloucester with north-south reversed.
The outcome was the curious map you see in the OP.
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2018/06/05 22:30:15
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Fixture of Dakka
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From Essex and pretty much anything above The Wash is “northern” to me.
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"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" |
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2018/06/05 22:37:29
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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xKillGorex wrote: Riquende wrote:If you're heading north on the M1 past J14 (the northern MK junction) then you're pretty much lost to the wastes.
Also, most of East Anglia and the entire south west are too rural and are basically honorary northerners.
Whaaaaat honorary northerners,,, that’s fighting talk that is. I’m off to get my pitch fork.
How long will it take your combine harvester to get here... if you get a brand new one?
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” |
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2018/06/05 23:52:31
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[DCM]
Fireknife Shas'el
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mrhappyface wrote:
How does the American understand British Geo-cultural differences in the UK better than most Brits?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ketara wrote:I saw this on FB tentatively titled 'Britain according to people from London'.
Eh, that's pretty close to the truth.
Joining up with Ouze’s other thread, I think the most reliable way to determine which part of the UK you’re in is to ask a local what they call a small, round, loaf of bread, to be used as a lunch time snack or for holding bacon.
The correct answer is “cob”. *ducks & runs*
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2018/06/06 01:04:50
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[MOD]
Villanous Scum
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I would say draw a line from Oxford to Brighton, everything SW of that is South (bar Cornwall, the Tamar is an international boundary) everything else is either, North, foreign or meh.
Jadenim, I would just call that a rrrrroll (with correct pronunciation). Another question is what do you call a ditch full of water? Locally it was a rhyne, pronounced like the German river but with more rrrrrrrrrrr.
I should add I am from Somerrrrrrrrrrrset originally, full of piratical farmers.
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On parle toujours mal quand on n'a rien à dire. |
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2018/06/06 04:03:09
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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It depends on where you are :p
I imagine someone from Cornwall has a different view of 'North' than someone from Shetland.
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2018/06/06 07:34:49
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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A very rough guide is to draw a line from the mouth of the river severn to the top base of the Wash.
It's extraordinary how many factors to do with money and other social-political stuff are very different either side of that line.
Of course this ignores the Midlands as a distinct region.
We also have to remember that Scotland is not "northern", it's Scottish, and Wales is "Welsh", and Northern Ireland. They don't follow the same social-polical pattern as the Engilsh north-south device.
As regards London, the M25 is a good bounday but there are towns and cities outside that which are closely tied by commuters and so on, that you have to think of the "south-east" as a region.
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2018/06/06 07:39:18
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Currently live in east anglia and ... well Norwich is basically an Island of sanity in a sea of gibberish.
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2018/06/06 08:31:06
Subject: Re:Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Obviously this ^
I live in London, almost everywhere is "The North"
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2018/06/06 08:31:39
Subject: Re:Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Yes, but you still must fear and shun "south of the river..."
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2018/06/06 08:53:07
Subject: Brits get in here! Where is the North-South divide? (Rest of the World Welcome)
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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Kilkrazy wrote:
As regards London, the M25 is a good bounday but there are towns and cities outside that which are closely tied by commuters and so on, that you have to think of the "south-east" as a region.
City of London, Greater London, Outer London?
Luton is feeling the London effect these days. House prices have risen dramatically as those priced out of the capital buy property here (or landlords looking to take advantage of the quick trains in to Kings Cross/ St Pancras). The airport is officially known as "London Luton" and 10 years back the owner of the local football team wanted to rename it to "London Luton" as well.
ingtaer wrote:Another question is what do you call a ditch full of water? Locally it was a rhyne, pronounced like the German river but with more rrrrrrrrrrr.
In civilised society there isn't a special word for that. We'd just call it 'someone else's drainage problem'.
Kilkrazy wrote:Yes, but you still must fear and shun "south of the river..."
Sarf, innit?
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.” |
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