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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/15 20:56:19
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Pointers, recommendations, and comments highly welcome. This is my 1st Harlequin army still purchasing boxes.
If the math is right this should be 1991 points. 11 CP, -3 CP for the extra 2 relics, starting with 8 CP
BATTALION
soaring spite masque
HQ
Troupe Master
Troupe Master
Troupe Master
all with fusion and embrace
TROUPES
Troupes 5
Troupes 5
Troupes 5
all with fusion and embrace
TRANSPORT
Starweaver
Starweaver
Starweaver
VANGUARD
dreaming shadows masque
HQ
Shadowseer (Warlord with Suit of Hidden Knives and Twilight)
ELITES
Solitaire ( Cegorach's Rose)
Death Jester (Curtainfall)
Death Jester
OUTRIDER
soaring spite masque
HQ
Shadowseer
FAST
Skyweavers 2
Skyweavers 2
Skyweavers 2
all with zephyrglaves and haywire
SPEARHEAD
soaring spite masque
HQ
Shadowseer
HEAVEY
Voidweaver
Voidweaver
Voidweaver
1 with prismatic cannons
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/06/15 22:55:35
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/16 16:46:41
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Regular Dakkanaut
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only got the index and sadly selling of my Harleys for Sisters..
You got 4 Detatchment, if not allowed at your place you can only have 3 at 2k points.
Personally i only take one Death jester but heard he got better in codex so don't relly know.
But out with something to add more Troupe and -fusion and embrace on one for all units as he will be taken out first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/17 17:21:52
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The reason I took the 2nd D-jester was to fill the Vanguard Detachment so I could make use of the Dreaming Shadow Masque with the relic.
I didnt know that I could only have 3 detachments, if that holds true I can combine the outrider or spearhead into the battalion. I'll end up loosing a CP.
Any pointers on the list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/17 17:45:41
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Well, 3 Detachments is an optional event-recommendation, not a hard-and-fast rule.
Playing in a store or so, it probably wont matter. If you're going to a tournament, just check beforehand.
If your Warlord is just farming CP, it'd probably put that on a Death Jester. Shadowseers want to be closer to the front, helping out with Shield from Harm and, of course, might also peril. They'd give up Warlord more easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/17 19:01:51
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Point taken. thanks. Death Jester warlord. any other advise?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/17 20:29:52
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't think the suit of hidden knives and curtainfall are worth the 3CP. If you're dead set on taking a dreaming shadow detachment, then curtainfall is probably worth it though.
Your list has 3 Shadowseers, that's a huge point sink for not that much damage output. I understand you took them to fill the mandatory HQ tax, but it's not really worth the 1CP you get imho (on top of the already mentioned detachment limit that is often enforced).
If you merged your spearhead with your battalion, and dropped a shadowseer and a voidweaver at the same time, you could get another troupe. I think it would improve your list overall.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/17 20:39:16
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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IF(!) you were to drop a detachment (and an HQ), you could also consider dropping the Outrider and combining the 3x2 bikes into a single 6-bikes squad.
There are obviously some risks and down-sides from it, but on the other hand you can protect all 6 of them with Stratagems like Lighting Fast Reflexes or Prismatic Blur, or use Twilight Pathways on the entire lot, etc.., etc..
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/17 20:39:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 14:08:32
Subject: Re:[2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thank you all for the pointers, I made some changes based on a mix of recommendations. Can I get some feed back on the changes based on the new list?
Not sure if i should move the Patrol up into the battalion and break out the bikes bikes into a outrider for the CP.
It comes down to extra attacks with the Frozen stars masque or a extra CP. Army adds up to 1979 pts, and 8 CP after Stratageming for 1 solitaire relic.
BATTALION soaring spite masque
HQ
Troupe Master
Troupe Master
Troupe Master
All TM with fusion and Kiss
TROUPES
Troupes 5
Troupes 5
Troupes 5
all with fusion and embrace
FAST
Skyweavers 2
Skyweavers 2
Skyweavers 2
all with zephyrglaves and haywire
HEAVY
Voidweaver with prismatic cannons
TRANSPORT
Starweaver
Starweaver
Starweaver
VANGUARD dreaming shadows masque
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Shadowseer
ELITES
Solitaire ( Cegorach's Rose)
Death Jester (Curtainfall & Twilight Warlord)
Death Jester
Patrol Frozen Stars Masque
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Shadowseer
Troupe Master (kiss and fusion)
TROUPES
Troupes (5 embrace and 5 fusion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 14:11:51
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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The Skywaevers should be in a unit of 6. not 3 units of 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 14:38:12
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Akaiyou wrote:The Skywaevers should be in a unit of 6. not 3 units of 2.
Okay that is a easy fix.
1st thought was easy objective grabbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 16:28:16
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I think you should take 5 Troupers with 3 fusion pistols & embraces.
This would give you 2 ablative wounds just in case the unit will come under fire before they reach their destination.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/06/18 16:57:42
Subject: [2000] - PURE HARLEQUINS
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Fresh-Faced New User
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wuestenfux wrote:Well, I think you should take 5 Troupers with 3 fusion pistols & embraces.
This would give you 2 ablative wounds just in case the unit will come under fire before they reach their destination.
You make a good point, but is it worth the trade off?
18 fusion pistols zipping around in 3 Starweavers. Plus another 6 on foot. (including Troupe Masters) The Starweavers will take any fire otw in.
I get it, and it saves another 56 pts but I'd still need to free up more points somewhere to squeeze in another 5 troupes. Even with 3 fusion and 2 embrace that 126 pts.
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