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I made a 7500 point list for Iron Warriors and wondering how effective it would be.


++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [153 PL, 2799pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 300pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Power fist
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 300pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Power fist
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 300pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Power fist
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 255pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainfist, Reaper autocannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 141pts]: Helbrute hammer, No Chaos Mark, Twin heavy bolter

Helbrute [7 PL, 141pts]: Helbrute hammer, No Chaos Mark, Twin heavy bolter

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: No Chaos Mark, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: No Chaos Mark, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: No Chaos Mark, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [150 PL, 2634pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

Warpsmith [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Flamer, Meltagun, No Chaos Mark, Power axe

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [6 PL, 80pts]: 19x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 295pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Lightning Claw
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter
. Marine w/ special weapon: Meltagun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 295pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Lightning Claw
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter
. Marine w/ special weapon: Meltagun

Chaos Space Marines [15 PL, 295pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Lightning Claw
. 17x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ heavy weapon: Heavy bolter
. Marine w/ special weapon: Meltagun

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 255pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator w/ Heavy Weapon: Chainfist, Reaper autocannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 141pts]: Helbrute hammer, No Chaos Mark, Twin heavy bolter

Helbrute [7 PL, 141pts]: Helbrute hammer, No Chaos Mark, Twin heavy bolter

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Vindicator [8 PL, 140pts]: Combi-plasma, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Vindicator [8 PL, 140pts]: Combi-plasma, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Vindicator [8 PL, 140pts]: Combi-plasma, No Chaos Mark

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [44 PL, 788pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 138pts]: Chainfist, Cold and Bitter, Combi-melta, No Chaos Mark, Warlord

+ Elites +

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 170pts]
. Left Arm: Kheres assault cannon
. Right Arm: Combi-bolter, Hellforged deathclaw

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 240pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 240pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [43 PL, 733pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ HQ +

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 83pts]: Mark of Khorne, Plasma pistol, Power maul

+ Elites +

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 170pts]
. Left Arm: Kheres assault cannon
. Right Arm: Combi-bolter, Hellforged deathclaw

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 240pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 240pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Chaos Terminator Champion: Chainfist, Combi-plasma
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

++ Air Wing Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [30 PL, 545pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Iron Warriors

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, No Chaos Mark

Heldrake [10 PL, 180pts]: Hades Autocannon, Heldrake claws, Mark of Khorne

Heldrake [10 PL, 180pts]: Hades Autocannon, Heldrake claws, Mark of Khorne

++ Total: [420 PL, 7499pts] ++

In your city, how are other players' 7500pts lists looks like? They can tailor against your list, and you can tailor against theirs, too.

I doubt if any one can tell you how competitive your list is. At 7500 points, its just too high a point for people to play it commonly. And it basically depends on what models you have. I mean, if someone tells you to bring 12 flying daemon princes in a 7500 list to make it competitive, are you really going to get 12 flying daemon princes?

Just treat it as an opportunity to bring out all your models and have fun.

This is a positively massive game size. Its games like this where you can honestly expect to face down Titans. At this level, even a Reaver Titan or multiple Warhound Titans will still have a significant supporting army to get boots on the ground. If anybody you know has super massive Forgeworld models, games of this size are really the only opportunity to bring them- hell even a full host of Imperial Knights would not be unexpected. So keep that in mind when you look at your list. Do you have the stopping power needed to address a Reaver Titan?

Mark of Slaanesh Obliterators, Triple Melta Bikes, etc. You have 3 las predators, which is a good start.

Finally I'm worried about a complete lack of magic in a game this size. The Dark Hereticus discipline is one of the better lores in the game right now. It seems a shame to not take enough psychers to at least cast the good spells. Your bigger models will really appreciate the added durability from the God specific buffs, like Delightful Agonies or Miasma of Pestilence, anything with an Invulnerable Save can benefit from Weaver. Warptime can get a squad where you need it, Death Hex can strip the invulnerable save off a 3++ (Warlord Trait + Strategem) Knight Valient letting you bring it down in a hail of gunfire. Gift of Chaos has a 1/3 chance in killing a typical space marine character outright, and if you have a few spare points left over can transform them into a spawn for maximum You have way too many Warp Smiths (remember a vehicle can only be healed or cursed a maximum of 1 time regardless of how many warpsmiths you have), taking some sorcerers of various marks will add to both your durability and offense.