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You may remember I shared a similar story a while back. Well, I’m saddened to say it’s happened again.

£3,000 worth of damage, and 90% of their stock, including clothing and toys stolen.

I’ve sniffed around, and I couldn’t find an official fundraising thing such as Just Giving. But, their own website has a direct donation link via PayPal.

I’ve made a donation, because this is one the scuzziest things that can happen. If you’re of a like mind, I’d just say many a mickle mak’s a muckle. Just a few quid can help them get stuff sorted out.

Here’s hoping the scrotes responsible are soon caught. Though one imagines anything recovered, as well as being Police Evidence, may have to be binned for fear of contamination.

   
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Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.

Actually donate better locks ans a stronger door.
Charity storerooms are targeted by scumbags because they are softer targets than corporate warehouses.
I worked in an ASDA service depot in my student years, raid one of those and its a thieves jackpot, if you can get away with it.
Allowing for what they took I have my suspicions.

General thieves (chavs et al) go for alcohol, commercial thieves (resellers) go for perfume. Both would rather hit elsewhere
Second hand childrens toys, general clothing, also second hand and food, and they took nearly all of what was there.....So its a theft of items with negligible resale value, and for benefit of a wide base of recipients, mixed age groups and likely lots of them, sounds like travellers again.

While all thieves are scum, most will not do a charity unless to go for the cash. Blagging a charity box makes sense from a scumbags perspective, low though it is, but stripping a food bank doesn't. Most thieves blag money and buy the clothes they want, they don't blag second hand clothes from charity shops. Mostly because its not the styles they want, but also because there is no resale value and the direct handout items for vulnerable people do pull residual heart strings of more than a few, and if it doesnt it will give them a really gakky rep in the local underworld. As families of local scum need food banks too.
Even the thieves low enough to take a charity box will not feth over the charities directly servicing their subcommunity. It makes the wrong people angry.
Besides street criminals dont want hand-me-down clothes anywhere near them, either to wear or to score.

Travelers doing over a food bank, I can definitely believe that. They have the balance of sense of entitlement and complete lack of consideration for anyone but themselves, while being conversely very communal within their extended family unit, so blagging all the clothes of all ages in a charity shop makes sense to them, and the fact that they are for handout to the needy wont matter a jot to them either. Because no other community group other than their own has any value whatsoever to them.

Thing is police don' want to handle travellers, and they know it, and take full advantage.

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Or instead of pointing fingers, why not donate to help them get back up and runnng?

   
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Orlanth, use racist language again and enjoy a nice vacation from Dakka Dakka.

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 Lorek wrote:
Orlanth, use racist language again and enjoy a nice vacation from Dakka Dakka.


That isn't racist language. But then the ambiguity is probably why you didnt just ban me, actual racism is immediately bannable. Very well gypo = forbidden term, I wont use it again.

Went to edit with 'travellers', which isn't quite accurate, but more likely to be acceptable. Noticed you had already edited, based on the unhealthy assumption that I used racist terms, which I had not. Please be careful with that, as you imply a moral state to the post being made, which is too assumptive.
Notable as you had no problem with the word 'chav'. Which makes the distinctions rather arbitrary.



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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Or instead of pointing fingers, why not donate to help them get back up and runnng?


I don't have the money to spare, as for 'pointing fingers' its basic profiling, which is my no means a random or arbitrary choice. Police do this all the time as it narrows down suspects and shortens responses. No reason we cannot have a crack at this ourselves. Looking at what has been stolen from where and in what quantities is a usual start.

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Er what's a Traveller?

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 Frazzled wrote:
Er what's a Traveller?


In UK parlance a form of gypsy community, and is a neutral catchall which actually makes no sense as various traveller communities vary extremely widely yet have notable characteristics. It is now hard to quantify further as definitions, even those used within the various communities have very distinctive meanings. For example there is a difference between common gypsys, and what I will now have to call the G-word. and Irish Travellers and the P-word and the distinctions are very specific. The difference in particular between Irish Travellers and the P-word is not a racial epithet but a cultural distinction based on the communal behaviour, used as a mark of self-identification, and group distinction.

It gets complex very quickly. But not in any way arbitrary. For instance amongst other exposures to this I know landholders in Somerset who have specific problems with specific types of traveller. Some are regulars who are welcome well behaved and bother nobody, others turning up means a burglary spike, cats go missing to feed their pets, grafitti, trespass and leaving a huge mess. As these are self contained very cohesisve subcultures we are not dealing with individuals, but whole groups of like minded people to the extent that they are either all OK or all bad. Of course such distinctions are frowned upon in common society as it appears like cultural labelling, but those who wag fingers evidently haven't experienced the distinction first hand or had friends or family doing same.

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Gypsy like Lon Chaney gypsy fortune teller? They er still exist?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Pretty sure profiling is in fact somewhat no legal.

But again. No use in pointing fingers. Rather more, the extracting of digits is what is needed now.

   
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In the US thieves will steal the copper wire from air conditioners. If it's an easy hit there is no honor and will be done. Sad.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pretty sure profiling is in fact somewhat not legal.


There is profiling and there is profiling. You cannot set up a roadblock and only stop black drivers in a random stop and search for drugs.

You can look at a crime and narrow down what type of criminal has likely committed the act.

If police investigate a burglary of a clothes shop and find a dozen pairs of expensive track shoes were taken they would be looking at a different profile thief than if a dozen fur coats were taken. These profiles may even 'tend' to take police on racial lines so long as that is not specified. Its a delicate act.


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

But again. No use in pointing fingers. Rather more, the extracting of digits is what is needed now.


I am neither a police detective, nor a wealthy philanthropist who can replace a charities wares. But I am still here on the thread.

Raw speculation on Dakka is acceptable, 99.99% of topics on Off Topic are beyond Dakka member's ability to resolve. For example: I have no ability to muscle North Korea, I can still take a shot at an opinion on who has fethed up in the current crisis and what can be done about it.


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 Frazzled wrote:
Gypsy like Lon Chaney gypsy fortune teller? They er still exist?


Do you mean that traditional madam with a crystal ball living in a painted horse drawn wagon?

Yes and no. That type of act is common place for a fete in English culture, but you have someone dressing up as 'Madam Czala' or another faux central european name for the day. It is rarely if ever passed off as a professional medium. Some actual mediums also use the theme, but its just a theme.

Most travelling circuses are run by traveller communities, as of ye olde times, but they keep thing above level, get licences to set up legit carnivals in town parkland, pay taxes etc.

Painted traditional gypsy wagons do exist, but there are literally one or two and most are static. Traditional gypsys families do exist, we call them Romany although they are most likely not of actual Romany descent. By and large the Romany familes are not a problem, they look like modern gypsys, drive modern cars, live in caravans, but they go around a circuit of site where they are known and welcome and go to some lengths not to do anything to jeapordise that. Most 'Romany' keep to the rural communities as suburban areas rarely have any community and Romany cant be distinguished by the average suburban householder from other types of traveller and are lumped in for the blame for what other far more odious groups do. Most suburbanites dont communicate so any message of 'its not us' is futile. Traditional gypsies have thus long been driven into the more remote areas such as the South West panhandle, inland Wales and Cumbria.

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This theft makes littk real sense.

The value of second hand good, food and such in a food bank is pretty crappy and resale is virtually nothing.

Even travelers.

There often about, well they have immaculate homes, fancy cars and so. Knocking off a what to most theives is considered mostly worthless...

Their fractional value as stolen property is likely a few hundred quid at best.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Gypsy like Lon Chaney gypsy fortune teller? They er still exist?


They still exist, although not always in the romanticized gypsy sense. We get them here in North Texas, referred to as Irish Travelers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

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I love how people are trying to make sense of modern thieves.
They are lowlife inbred scum who would stab a granny for her last £1 coin just for a laugh.
No need to make sense of it.

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 jhe90 wrote:
This theft makes littk real sense.

The value of second hand good, food and such in a food bank is pretty crappy and resale is virtually nothing.

Even travelers.


I disagree. The subsets of travellers responsbile are ungroomed and very hostile to any social group other than themselves. They check all the boxes in a theft where as you correctly summise the takings make little sense.

 jhe90 wrote:

There often about, well they have immaculate homes, fancy cars and so. Knocking off a what to most theives is considered mostly worthless...


Sedentary traveller groups are almost an oxymoron. They buy houses and settle for a sedentary life, which would normally destroy their sense of community unless they all live in a commune. Those who live in communes are no longer travellers but are often a progression of the New Age traveller subset. They are a different breed also as they tend to be more eco-farmer liberatrians, which mobile New Age travellers tend to be libertarian-anarchists. And yes you can generalise as these groups come together by ideology as opposed to geneology.
The wealthy sedentary 'traveller' groups are the carnival owners. Carnival owners are not trying to live off the grid ad carnivals are big heavy and safety tested and taxed and regulated etc etc. So the owner/operators get houses, anywhere practical and not necessarily together but remain as a community through blood and occupation, being on the road together thoughout the summer months.

As for fancy cars, some subset of travellers live almost entirely off crime of one kind or another, don't pay tax, don't tax their cars and many of the vehicles are stolen anyway. There was a scandal last year of a woman who had a new caravan stolen, managed to track it to a dangerous traveller community. The caravan was openly visible and was photographed. The police refused to intervene because of danger to health. these scum know they can get away with pretty much anything short of murder. So yes they have fancy, untaxed, cars. In the Uk society today there are a number of elephants in the room the government would rather ignore, as will the police. This is why you have problems with traveller communities openly committing outrageous acts, why police would not for a long time investigate large scale peadophilia if it involves certain ethnicities etc.

 jhe90 wrote:

Their fractional value as stolen property is likely a few hundred quid at best.


Missing cat spikes occur because certain subsets of traveller, notably a subset of the Irish Travellers known colloquially by the P-word, lure pet cats (any locally found furries will do but cats are allowed to roam more than dogs, and will approach people unlike foxes) so they can be captured slaughtered and fed to the dogs. This subset nearly always is accompanied by large numbers of dogs, partly for tradition, partly for defence and partly for illegal blood sports.
There is a repeated correlation between missing pets and specific traveller migrations.

Yes dog food isn't expensive, and yes a lot of travellers work on the black economy and pay no tax so they have money. But why pay for dog food when you can serve fresh food from local cats, the fact that the cats are often beloved pets is an irrelevance.

I hope this paints a picture about the mentality of these people. If not, how about this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43710526
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16158705.Timeline_of_events_after_burglar_stabbed_in_Hither_Green_-_Everything_we_know_so_far/

So in a nutshell, the fact that these goods are low value, and are desperately needed by people below the poverty line, is not a relevance in the eyes of this type of traveller community. They simply dont give a feth about anyone else, have a massive chutzpah and entitlement streak and have no problems about being open about it.

Police don't challenge them either, which is why we have awful stories like the mentally ill man who was held as a slave for over a decade openly by a traveller gang.

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Still with the baseless racism.

Mods, any chance of a thread clean up?

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still with the baseless racism.

Mods, any chance of a thread clean up?


Yeah, casual racism being thrown about all over the place in here.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Still with the baseless racism.

Mods, any chance of a thread clean up?


Sorry this is not baseless racism.
First it is not baseless, second it is not racism.

I have explained by and have links to evidence of the nasty stuff going on, and have posted some already.


It is reactions like that which meant that children had to suffer gang rapes throughout the last decade in places like Rotherham. I can understand you up to a point, some stories are so nasty you dont want to believe them, others point to uncomfortable truths such as the correlation between some sex crimes and ethnicity. It was easier in the Blair years to let large numbers of little girls be repeatedly raped than to allow society to realise there was a problem with Asian grooming gangs. It got so bad that outraged fathers were arrested for breaching the peace trying to protect their children from their abusers, while not stopping the ongoing abuse.
I have to give the child rape trial analogy because it is currently in the public eye. It was known to be happening but it took a change of government, not a police enquiry breakthrough to expose the crimes.
Even so the reply has its limits, the Rotherham enquiry itself has had brakes put on it. Perpetrators are now in prison, but investigation into police collusion remain unresolved and likely will be allowed to fade away.

Sadly there are other elephants in the room society is not yet addressing. We are seeing individual cases such as the escaped slave, but they are swept under carpet. The very fact that we can have even one long term case of open slavery in 21st century Britain is a fething condemnation of our society. At least with cases like Josef Fritzl and Ariel Castro the scum got away with keeping slaves by locking then up in concealed rooms. The known case of a recovered slave was being worked openly by the traveller gang, and because nobody in authority wants to challenge these people, they could keep and work a slave openly.


I am with you on this though: I would much prefer that it is all myth from the Daily Mail.
I know better though.

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Bristol

And you've done all that in response to a crime where there is no mention of any suspects.

You have posted zero evidence that travellers committed this burglary.

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 Orlanth wrote:

Sorry this is not baseless racism.
First it is not baseless, second it is not racism.


Just go away. Shoo.

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Philadelphia PA

Yeah I think my bingo card is full - anecdata, "I'm just telling it like it is", fake outrage, pseudo intellectual justification, on and on.


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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
And you've done all that in response to a crime where there is no mention of any suspects.

You have posted zero evidence that travellers committed this burglary.


I am not here with fingerprints. I provided a profile and a likelihood in a case that others have noted doesn't add up for a crime profile.
This is an acceptable use of thread time.

If you have alternate theorem I would like to hear it, and as with any profile it need to be 100% accurate. That is not how it works.

It is odd that a higher standard for profiling is placed on me by some other posters than will be placed on the police by the CPS. Somehow I am not surprised.


The rest of the comments on travellers was on highlighting the very different and distinct groups, why there are common psychological profiles for mobile communities and why it is NOT casual discrimination to make a psychological profile of a small traveller community in the same way that you would not do over an ethnicity.
I post logic, please everyone respond with logic, not cries of the 'thats racist meme'.


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Bristol

Are you a professional criminal profiler with education in or experience in psychology, policework etc.?

If not, your "profile" is meaningless.

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 Elemental wrote:
 Orlanth wrote:

Sorry this is not baseless racism.
First it is not baseless, second it is not racism.


Just go away. Shoo.


Post something intelligent please.
If you don't like what I have to say explain why with logic and not hysteria.

I will not be no platformed by you.


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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Are you a professional criminal profiler with education in or experience in psychology, policework etc.?
If not, your "profile" is meaningless.


How are you fit to judge that? Yes, I have connections to people in law enforcement, learned quite a bit from them, no it is not my profession.

Profiles are validated by the logic behind them, not credential waving.

Edit. I will in part answer my own question, though I would still like your justification for the last comment above.,


 A Town Called Malus wrote:
And you've done all that in response to a crime where there is no mention of any suspects.

You have posted zero evidence that travellers committed this burglary.


Writing this proves you have zero idea of why profiling is. Criminal profiling is not finding the identity of the actual criminal, or finding evidence to support a prosecution, it is a preliminary stage often used with limited information to narrow down who the most likely suspects are. They are looked into first, but in a good investigation are not the sole focus unless overwhelming positive evidence is found early.
Profiles can be valid and lead to a logical police focus along one criminal profile when the crime was committed by someone outside the profile. This is not an indictment of profiling so long as the police procedure is prepared to look beyond profile and a prosecution is still evidence rather than profile based.

Your post clearly mistakes profiling with collecting evidence for prosecution, a different stage, and in UK policing is one where the police hands over evidence at the tail end of the investigation to the CPS.
Hope this clears it up for you.

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Philadelphia PA

I provided a profile


I love the pretension - offhand racial stereotypes are on par with actual police work now.

When logic is shorthand for "it fits my preconceived ideas" you know you're really in with the thinkers

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Well.

Anyway.

This is a horrible thing to happen, and I ask those that can to dip in and chip in, whatever you can afford.

   
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 ScarletRose wrote:
I provided a profile


I love the pretension - offhand racial stereotypes are on par with actual police work now.

When logic is shorthand for "it fits my preconceived ideas" you know you're really in with the thinkers


Care to back up the accusation. What racial stereotypes? I even made very clear comment to make distinction with logical example. Traveller community subsets are not a race for a start.

There is more to the distinction than, "I don't like what he is saying so it must be hatespeech."
Come on, you can do better than that, I hope.

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 Orlanth wrote:

I disagree. The subsets of travellers responsbile are ungroomed and very hostile to any social group other than themselves.


If you have difficulty comprehending how the above is not racist (that is to say; insulting and discriminatory against an ethnicity based on little evidence), you need to take a good hard look in the mirror. As a rule of thumb, if you could take the word 'travellers' out from a statement about an ethnicity, and replace it with 'Jews' or 'Shona' or suchlike and watch the statement turn offensive? You're probably being racist.

Claiming that 'travellers are not a race' shows a poor grasp of what a 'race' actually is; since all 'races' are just ethnic social constructs.






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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well.

Anyway.

This is a horrible thing to happen, and I ask those that can to dip in and chip in, whatever you can afford.


Quite. It's bad enough that people have been driven to utilise these foodbanks over the last decade without scum plundering what few resources are left for them to access.

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Travelers are not the only one it could be. Maybe a disgruntled user or so. A person with a grudge vs those who run it etc.

Theres no solid proof to confirm if they where, or are not travelers.

Now what I have to think, of the worst is right and they did, things make little sense here. If by your points, say they are above the law to sowm degree. Why break into and loot a food bank. Its not best stuff, and second hand, oe lower grade stock. Its not high end stuff.

They could takw anything, pick anyone and they choose... There.. I get all not rich, but it seems a strange target. Unless you where starving yourself, but they are a large group with alot of people and alot more options than robbing a food bank.

As for slavery cases, alas true, its a tight comunity, there locations are often more remote, or somewhat more enclosed and fortified than other places. It's fairly easy to hide. Very few outsiders.

However that is a fact of location, more than the culture.




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