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2018/07/03 08:26:32
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Hello Dakka,
I've been tasked with writing up new rules for a Campaign that my local group will be playing. After asking around, one of common things they wanted was an ability to bail a crew out of a destroyed vehical.
Here's my attempt at that rule. All criticism and critics welcome.
Though please keep in mind that each game will be monitored by a DM and the goal of this campaign is to tell a fun fluffy story.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/03 08:55:52
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2018/07/03 08:49:04
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Weapons for the crew are?
Especially regarding crewman of a Leman russ i'd say only base pistols. maybee relevant to add.
Shouldn't an "explode" result instantly wipe the transportet units and crew?
Tank crews after a penetrating hit should take some casualities, espccially after getting shot at by autocannons and other shells with HE filler/ comparatively shrapnell. (this maybee disadvantages regular guardsmen crews compared to marine crews to much)
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/07/03 08:55:11
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Not Online!!! wrote:Weapons for the crew are?
Especially regarding crewman of a Leman russ i'd say only base pistols. maybee relevant to add.
Shouldn't an "explode" result instantly wipe the transportet units and crew?
Tank crews after a penetrating hit should take some casualities, espccially after getting shot at by autocannons and other shells with HE filler/ comparatively shrapnell. (this maybee disadvantages regular guardsmen crews compared to marine crews to much)
The weapons are on the data sheet,
For an "Explode" result in a transport, the crew is going to die outright. There is already a rule for disembarking after an explosion., so there's no need to replace it.
Tank crews will take casualties, that's why they only get out on a 5+.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/03 08:56:50
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2018/07/03 09:04:25
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/07/03 09:12:11
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Not Online!!! wrote:I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
Which will effectively be a lasgun. I do agree on the fact that they would just have las pistols, but I'm also trying to keep wysiwyg in mind, we have a few IG player, but I doubt many have guardsmen with just pistols.
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2018/07/03 09:18:41
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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 kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
Which will effectively be a lasgun. I do agree on the fact that they would just have las pistols, but I'm also trying to keep wysiwyg in mind, we have a few IG player, but I doubt many have guardsmen with just pistols.
Well aslong as there is no commisar in it, that guy would have a sword and a boltpistol.
Jokes aside, a bunch of sergants could do, would be even fiting with their headsets.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/07/03 09:25:50
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Not Online!!! wrote: kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
Which will effectively be a lasgun. I do agree on the fact that they would just have las pistols, but I'm also trying to keep wysiwyg in mind, we have a few IG player, but I doubt many have guardsmen with just pistols.
Well aslong as there is no commisar in it, that guy would have a sword and a boltpistol.
Jokes aside, a bunch of sergants could do, would be even fiting with their headsets.
Which comes down to wysiwyg haha, they wouldnt have chainswords. But I understand your point.
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2018/07/03 09:32:29
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
Which will effectively be a lasgun. I do agree on the fact that they would just have las pistols, but I'm also trying to keep wysiwyg in mind, we have a few IG player, but I doubt many have guardsmen with just pistols.
Well aslong as there is no commisar in it, that guy would have a sword and a boltpistol.
Jokes aside, a bunch of sergants could do, would be even fiting with their headsets.
Which comes down to wysiwyg haha, they wouldnt have chainswords. But I understand your point.
Actually, souldn't you be allowed to disembark your crewman in a pinch/ for a mission?
Could make for some interesting fluffy storytelling no?
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/07/03 10:07:19
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Not Online!!! wrote: kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: kinratha wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:I do know that atleast IG Crewman don't have Lasguns in their tanks, they have lascarabines or laspistols but not lasguns.
Which will effectively be a lasgun. I do agree on the fact that they would just have las pistols, but I'm also trying to keep wysiwyg in mind, we have a few IG player, but I doubt many have guardsmen with just pistols.
Well aslong as there is no commisar in it, that guy would have a sword and a boltpistol.
Jokes aside, a bunch of sergants could do, would be even fiting with their headsets.
Which comes down to wysiwyg haha, they wouldnt have chainswords. But I understand your point.
Actually, souldn't you be allowed to disembark your crewman in a pinch/ for a mission?
Could make for some interesting fluffy storytelling no?
Yes, I was thinking about making a rule for vehical crews to "Panic" and bailout even if they tank itself is still usable. But I think that's going to add another layer of complications to the game.
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2018/07/03 11:32:12
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I actually meant something more in line with:
"Our barracks are getting night raided by CSM and your vehicle crew is in their bunks completely unprepared, we need to get the tanks going again!"
Goal: Defend and bring the Crewman to their tanks:
VP 2 pts for each Leman Russ you could re activate.
VP 2 pts for each crew getting wiped out to 2 modells for the csm player.
Each Leman Russ with less then 2 crew counts as wiped. A Leman russ needs a driver and a main gunner.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/03 11:33:28
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2018/07/03 12:18:44
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Not Online!!! wrote:I actually meant something more in line with:
"Our barracks are getting night raided by CSM and your vehicle crew is in their bunks completely unprepared, we need to get the tanks going again!"
Goal: Defend and bring the Crewman to their tanks:
VP 2 pts for each Leman Russ you could re activate.
VP 2 pts for each crew getting wiped out to 2 modells for the csm player.
Each Leman Russ with less then 2 crew counts as wiped. A Leman russ needs a driver and a main gunner.
I'll keep that in mind for a future mission. I like the idea.
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2018/07/03 12:28:21
Subject: Vehical bail out rules.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Tell me how it went then.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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