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Figured I’d ask before dropping the cash on a Sylvaneth battletome. With it being made before the new edition came out, are there plans to release new battletomes for 2.0 or would I be safe buying it?
   
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your safe for along time.
the only army i have seen that gets battletome upgrade is stormcast.(its their 3rd book now......)

any changes to units in existing battletomes for 2.0 seems to be written in the GBH or in FaQ/errata.

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Considering all the (sub)factions that don't even have their first battletome, it seems unlikely that existing ones would get updated before everyone else is brought up to speed.

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We have no definitive information.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Considering all the (sub)factions that don't even have their first battletome, it seems unlikely that existing ones would get updated before everyone else is brought up to speed.


subfactions of old wont get any battletomes cuz for some reason it is not worth it for GW to do it, else we would have 10+ battletomes in the release year of AoS alone.



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 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Considering all the (sub)factions that don't even have their first battletome, it seems unlikely that existing ones would get updated before everyone else is brought up to speed.


subfactions of old wont get any battletomes cuz for some reason it is not worth it for GW to do it, else we would have 10+ battletomes in the release year of AoS alone.




What do you mean? We already have full battletomes to cover a faction as small as 3 pre-AoS plastic kits (flesh eaters). Was it stated that this sort of thing won't happen again?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Considering all the (sub)factions that don't even have their first battletome, it seems unlikely that existing ones would get updated before everyone else is brought up to speed.


subfactions of old wont get any battletomes cuz for some reason it is not worth it for GW to do it, else we would have 10+ battletomes in the release year of AoS alone.




What do you mean? We already have full battletomes to cover a faction as small as 3 pre-AoS plastic kits (flesh eaters). Was it stated that this sort of thing won't happen again?

What faction?

Everything left is outdated and get's replaced piece by piece (Orcs -> Ironjawz, Elves -> Sylvaneth, DoK, Idoneth, Telics' Elves, Malerion's Elves, etc.) or needs a complete overhaul because the models are too dated or too few (Free Guild, Devoted of Sigmar).

   
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I would think you are safe to buy it as there is no immediate problem with the rules of Sylvaneth as they are at the moment and they still play quite up to date.

But with GW you never know and I do not think they would be ashamed to do so. (just remember all the new high elf models released in the end times that became obsolete with AOS a few months later)
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 FrozenDwarf wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Considering all the (sub)factions that don't even have their first battletome, it seems unlikely that existing ones would get updated before everyone else is brought up to speed.


subfactions of old wont get any battletomes cuz for some reason it is not worth it for GW to do it, else we would have 10+ battletomes in the release year of AoS alone.




What do you mean? We already have full battletomes to cover a faction as small as 3 pre-AoS plastic kits (flesh eaters). Was it stated that this sort of thing won't happen again?


flesh eaters got a tome cuz it was needed as death pre horde mode was mediocre at best and it was faster and easier to make a single subfaction battletome then a complete remake of the death grand alliance at that time. now i doubt flesh eaters are even viable whit the game changing to horde mode last year and free summonings this year.
blades of khorne might have been a subfaction from chaos that got fleshed out but i cant say for shure as i know nothing of chaos and thus dont know if khorne(or skaven for that matter) is a subfaction or an army that existed in FB.

the reason to why the subfaction nighthaunt got fleshed out to a full army is prolly cuz it fits AoS very well. (no other fantasy game apart from lord of the rings that i know of has a pure ghost army in their lienup and whit AoS, GW wants their armys to be different from all other classic fantasy games)

and no, GW did not spesificly say they wont make battletomes for subfactions, but it is very likely that if they do, it will be for brand new armys, not existing subfactions.

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And yet we have rumours that Moonclan Grots are next, which is definitely an old subfaction, even if they get plastic airships or whatnot added to them.

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Well stormcast get a book at least every year As this is actually their 4th book since AOS (First tome, Dragon tome, tome that combined them, now 2.0 tome)

As for Sylvaneth, they are a little dates but ive heard with new summoning they are staying strong. They don't have "chapters" correct. I mean they do but they suffer from the old chapters stormcast had where you had to take a gak tone of units to unlock the chapter abilities? they don't get em for free like Indoneth, DOK, and SC.

From what I get it may be Moonclan then Slaanesh for this year
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
And yet we have rumours that Moonclan Grots are next, which is definitely an old subfaction, even if they get plastic airships or whatnot added to them.

No, we don't. We have rumours for the successors of the Moonclan. Just like the Daughters of Khaine. Can they really be called Dark Elves anymore?
The Fungi Grots (like the Cave Shaman) probably share not a single kit with the old Moonclan line.

   
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 Hanskrampf wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
And yet we have rumours that Moonclan Grots are next, which is definitely an old subfaction, even if they get plastic airships or whatnot added to them.

No, we don't. We have rumours for the successors of the Moonclan. Just like the Daughters of Khaine. Can they really be called Dark Elves anymore?
The Fungi Grots (like the Cave Shaman) probably share not a single kit with the old Moonclan line.

Moonclan Grots are their Age of Sigmar name. In WHFB they were Night Goblins.

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A lot of the Old World faction, or at least the subfactions, seem to be getting expanded. That's what we saw with Sylvaneth and Daughters of Khaine, and it's rumored that the Moonclan Grots are going to be getting the same treatment soon.

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Great, thanks for the advice! I noticed there seems to be two different digital battletomes available. One from the GW store that costs $34, and one through the AoS warscroll app that costs $26. Anyone know the difference between them?
   
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Badablack wrote:Great, thanks for the advice! I noticed there seems to be two different digital battletomes available. One from the GW store that costs $34, and one through the AoS warscroll app that costs $26. Anyone know the difference between them?


They are, fundamentally, the same PDF document, probably 1-1 to the print Battletome so you still need to look up the changes in the FAQs and General's Handbook. You can read one in the AoS app and the other in any ebook reader.

An added perk to the app version though is it unlocks the allegiance abilities, battalions and such in the My Battle section.

   
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I think I’m gonna get the $26 dollar digital battletome, since with just pre-game static army buffs it shouldn’t need to be opened during a game. And then I’ll get the actual print generals handbook since it will be needed to reference during games for rules and scenarios.

Nothing is worse than waiting on someone to slowly turn on their eReader, open the file, and swipe around just to check a rule.

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I learned my lesson with 40k. Used to be buy every codex new every edition, which was every 3-5 years. Then 6th and seventh came and went and I bought books that were outdated in less than a year (was very frustrating... now I only buy books for what I play and not every faction).

I wouldn't buy physical books of older armies if you are worried about possible updates (unless you like the books for lore, art, etc). It's what gw does. I'd expect most forces to get updates, as all my past purchases in the oas app dissappeared with the 2.0 update.

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Why would you buy books for armies you don't play?

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So that you know the rules for other factions so that when you are playing against other people that play those factions, they aren't misplaying their army and gaining an advantage over you through misplaying their army.

Its a common thing that competitive players do (keeping a library of all of the rules to know all of the rules)
   
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Most of that info is readily available online, though.

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Most of it but GW gotcha'd us by keeping some of the rules in those books only.

Like the spells, battalions, and artifacts etc.

   
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I'm not referring to the free online rules. I'm talking about the various blogs, message boards, youtube channels, etc. that go into extensive detail about strategies and such.

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