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Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

Note that sisters are still running on their Index release. They are getting their very own Codex and new models all next year in the first half of the year (estimated release window)

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

They are as strong as they can be without a real codex, one of the best Index armies. However they got mercilessly kneecapped by the rule of 3.

You basically want to take Celestine, the maximum amount of dominions you can take (preferably melta) along with the most Storm Bolters you can take, Imagifiers, Repressors and Immolators. Heavy Bolter Retributors put out a lot of dakka, especially when they can shoot twice.

I haven't seen them in action in 8th. I've been to a fair share of events and a couple different LGS. From my perspective they aren't a thing, most likely due to cost as it's a super expensive army to get into.

Celestine is still strong, and works well within her own army.

Seraphim's are fast moving, absurdly fast even, unit that can take melta pistols of some sort. The rerolling invulnverable save, buffed with Celestine nearby can be fairly nasty.

Retributors, the Heavy Weapon squads are solid choices. Act of Faith them to double shoot can be nasty on any weapon.

Basic Sisters are basic. Cheap 3+ body is good.

I think they're pretty alright, and the games I've played against them have been fun. But those matches have been with my weaker factions. Solid, Codex could potentially make them a quite deadly force.

Edit: wrong unit names

Penitent engines seem really good.

If they get a couple of decent box sets and an even half-way decent Codex then I expect them to explode in popularity.

phydaux wrote:
If they get a couple of decent box sets and an even half-way decent Codex then I expect them to explode in popularity.

Without doubt, I love sisters of battle and I being a fan still will hold off buying models because they are so expensive. The cost and the problems with metal has to turn off a lot of people. £50 is seriously a lot for 10 models.

Yeah they're not a cheap army to collect. Every heavy weapon costs over £7 and every special weapon over £6, and really you need quite a few of each.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

1. Celestine and the Twins- if you don't take them,myou are being overly nice to your opponent. She is the only way you can get four HQ choices in Sisters detachments. You'll need her and 3 Canonesses to do double battalions.
2. Seraphim squads with two girls running with two Inferno Pistols is very surprising if you can use Acts if Faith to move twice turn one.
3. Imagifers only source od extra Acts of Faith after the army 2+ and Celestines freebie AoF.
4. Melta Dominions get Vanguard. Ro3 makes your Vanguard move in to a death sentence. Ask yourself, is today a good day to get Martyred fir the Emperor?
4. SB/ BSS you are going to want lots of these to put in to...
5. Repressors, buy them, convert them, get them. Remember, she who bails, fails.
6. Blade of Admonition is a solid choice for a Canoness not hanging with your backfield.
7. Martyrdom strategem, lose a character get an AoF on a 2+ in that phase.

Sisters were great before the Ro3, now they are the best Index army in the game. Will definitely give a lot of lists a big fiery surprise. This years CA is supposed to have Beta rules for Sisters included. So maybe they will not be so heavily punished by the Ro3 if they sneak in some additional dataslates.

Nothing says or has said Sisters will be out in early 2019. Nine months is an insane turnaround for an entirely new line. "Emperor Willing 2019" makes me think more like 2020 or last seconds of 2019.

Great army, I have played over 130 games with them in a casual competitive manner all over the U.S. in 8ed and over 110 of those are victories. Didn't really start losing until the Ro3. Great fun killy army, top table competitive? No.

Slightly off topic, so apologies, but how long have repressors been OOP?

 dracpanzer wrote:

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

1. Celestine and the Twins- if you don't take them,myou are being overly nice to your opponent. She is the only way you can get four HQ choices in Sisters detachments. You'll need her and 3 Canonesses to do double battalions.
2. Seraphim squads with two girls running with two Inferno Pistols is very surprising if you can use Acts if Faith to move twice turn one.
3. Imagifers only source od extra Acts of Faith after the army 2+ and Celestines freebie AoF.
4. Melta Dominions get Vanguard. Ro3 makes your Vanguard move in to a death sentence. Ask yourself, is today a good day to get Martyred fir the Emperor?
4. SB/ BSS you are going to want lots of these to put in to...
5. Repressors, buy them, convert them, get them. Remember, she who bails, fails.
6. Blade of Admonition is a solid choice for a Canoness not hanging with your backfield.
7. Martyrdom strategem, lose a character get an AoF on a 2+ in that phase.

Sisters were great before the Ro3, now they are the best Index army in the game. Will definitely give a lot of lists a big fiery surprise. This years CA is supposed to have Beta rules for Sisters included. So maybe they will not be so heavily punished by the Ro3 if they sneak in some additional dataslates.

Nothing says or has said Sisters will be out in early 2019. Nine months is an insane turnaround for an entirely new line. "Emperor Willing 2019" makes me think more like 2020 or last seconds of 2019.

Great army, I have played over 130 games with them in a casual competitive manner all over the U.S. in 8ed and over 110 of those are victories. Didn't really start losing until the Ro3. Great fun killy army, top table competitive? No.

Yeah they are going to be getting a codex so I see them updated this year, its slowed to have to wait a year without a codex.

 dracpanzer wrote:
Remember, she who bails, fails.

Word. Though it does finally make them eligible for AoFs - I very often find myself making my involuntarily decanted Melta Dominions shoot thrice in quick succession using Martyrdom AoF (thanks Die-alogus), Army AoF and then normal Shooting Phase. Great way to take down a Knight

 Rubenite wrote:

 dracpanzer wrote:
Remember, she who bails, fails.

Word. Though it does finally make them eligible for AoFs - I very often find myself making my involuntarily decanted Melta Dominions shoot thrice in quick succession using Martyrdom AoF (thanks Die-alogus), Army AoF and then normal Shooting Phase. Great way to take down a Knight

I wish they brought back the kit, hopefully they might bring it back along with the release. There seems to be no reason to stop selling it with the fact that they are going to release an update for them, I think they are probably planning on a plastic version.


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 dracpanzer wrote:

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

1. Celestine and the Twins- if you don't take them,myou are being overly nice to your opponent. She is the only way you can get four HQ choices in Sisters detachments. You'll need her and 3 Canonesses to do double battalions.
2. Seraphim squads with two girls running with two Inferno Pistols is very surprising if you can use Acts if Faith to move twice turn one.
3. Imagifers only source od extra Acts of Faith after the army 2+ and Celestines freebie AoF.
4. Melta Dominions get Vanguard. Ro3 makes your Vanguard move in to a death sentence. Ask yourself, is today a good day to get Martyred fir the Emperor?
4. SB/ BSS you are going to want lots of these to put in to...
5. Repressors, buy them, convert them, get them. Remember, she who bails, fails.
6. Blade of Admonition is a solid choice for a Canoness not hanging with your backfield.
7. Martyrdom strategem, lose a character get an AoF on a 2+ in that phase.

Sisters were great before the Ro3, now they are the best Index army in the game. Will definitely give a lot of lists a big fiery surprise. This years CA is supposed to have Beta rules for Sisters included. So maybe they will not be so heavily punished by the Ro3 if they sneak in some additional dataslates.

Nothing says or has said Sisters will be out in early 2019. Nine months is an insane turnaround for an entirely new line. "Emperor Willing 2019" makes me think more like 2020 or last seconds of 2019.

Great army, I have played over 130 games with them in a casual competitive manner all over the U.S. in 8ed and over 110 of those are victories. Didn't really start losing until the Ro3. Great fun killy army, top table competitive? No.

The Avenger Strike fighter is no longer available for SB so I think we are getting a release very soon.

I'll throw in another voice for "fun but limited.". Most of my lists lately have a large detachment of sisters but bring in another imperial ally as well, be that knights or guard or what have you.

phillv85 wrote:
Slightly off topic, so apologies, but how long have repressors been OOP?

A long while, "ebay" is your best bet.

As someone that has played them many times in 8th and likes them best out of all power armor.

They are for sure the strongest Index army (yes only a few left), but they are also stronger than many other codex armies, i would say a solid middle tier army.


SoB Pros and Cons

* SoB are great at taking mass special and heavy weapons
* They are cheaper bodies but at the cost of T3 (not to big of a deal)
* Fire point Tanks (only Imperial army with it)
* AoF's can win you the game alone
* Double Battalion is cheap and so are Brigade s


Great combos within Sisters

* Seraphim along with Celestine working together, Seraphim are cheap good jump units by themselves but they can also have 4 Inferno Pistols that does lots of damage, Celetine gives them +1 to the invul, with their re-rolling invul saves meaning they can stay around a bit longer
* Dominions with a Repressor or Immolator can scout them forward doing lots of damage turn 1, they also can have 5 special weapons, SB's or Flamers are a great option
* Rets with HB's are extremely cheap, add a couple extra bodies for more wounds, but 95pts for 4 HB's that can hide is really good


Best Allies for AoB

* Armigers IMO work great with them
* Fast melee units to work with Celestine, Seraphim and your Gun lines, Shield Caps on Dawneagles, BA Smash Cap's, etc.

On a final note

You can make your Only Repressors, just get some plasticard, make a square with rhino front visor cover, add the weapons and a dozer from FW (they are cheap)

phydaux wrote:
If they get a couple of decent box sets and an even half-way decent Codex then I expect them to explode in popularity.

Ahh...like every new codex that comes out you mean?

Meltaguns, (heavy) bolters, and rhino chassis.

It's unmistakably an index army (and a limited one at that) but the core units work as fairly efficient special weapon carriers with faith adding a little extra speed or firepower at key moments.

They are also in-line, potentially, for some boosts - notably if GW does something about the relatively weak 8e flamers/meltas the sisters benefit, but also the next chapter approved will supposedly contain updates to the army which would hopefully include treatment for the exorcist in-line with the other index anti-tank vehicles, and more stratagems, relics, and warlord traits.


List wise - 3 squads of dominions, 1+ seraphim, usually celestine, and then fill out with battle sisters and the odd support character. That's actually much of the codex right there.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Penitent engines seem really good.

They are generally too slow to get into combat and can't be taken as part of a SoB detachment without losing the stratagems and relic. Their cost is almost identical to a vanilla dreadnought and they do marginally more damage in melee thanks to a re-roll the reroll - but have a shot at a second round of attacks without spending command points which can rack up a fair number of bonus wounds.

phillv85 wrote:
Slightly off topic, so apologies, but how long have repressors been OOP?

Removed from the site in early 2015, but it had been unavailable for years before that. I'm not even sure if they were selling it back when they advertised it in the sisters white dwarf codex...

A.T. wrote:
Meltaguns, (heavy) bolters, and rhino chassis.

It's unmistakably an index army (and a limited one at that) but the core units work as fairly efficient special weapon carriers with faith adding a little extra speed or firepower at key moments.

They are also in-line, potentially, for some boosts - notably if GW does something about the relatively weak 8e flamers/meltas the sisters benefit, but also the next chapter approved will supposedly contain updates to the army which would hopefully include treatment for the exorcist in-line with the other index anti-tank vehicles, and more stratagems, relics, and warlord traits.


List wise - 3 squads of dominions, 1+ seraphim, usually celestine, and then fill out with battle sisters and the odd support character. That's actually much of the codex right there.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Penitent engines seem really good.

They are generally too slow to get into combat and can't be taken as part of a SoB detachment without losing the stratagems and relic. Their cost is almost identical to a vanilla dreadnought and they do marginally more damage in melee thanks to a re-roll the reroll - but have a shot at a second round of attacks without spending command points which can rack up a fair number of bonus wounds.

phillv85 wrote:
Slightly off topic, so apologies, but how long have repressors been OOP?

Removed from the site in early 2015, but it had been unavailable for years before that. I'm not even sure if they were selling it back when they advertised it in the sisters white dwarf codex...

That sucks, I've always loved penitent engines, I thout that attacking twice would make up for all that.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

Dominions. riding in a Repressor, with meltaguns.
Dominions, riding in a Repressor, with storm bolters.
Dominions, riding in an Immolator, with meltaguns.
Dominions, riding in an Immolator, with storm bolters.
Celestine
Seraphim, 2x 2 Inferno Pistols, supported by an Act of Faith, they are amazing. They have a lot of hitting power, which with 9 or 10 troops degrades slower than Dominions, and with an AoF are fast enough to get where they need to be and be in range.

There's a theme here. All of these units will have moved over 20" by the end of their first movement phase. When your weapons are only really effective out to 12", you have to be fast.

After that, there are:
Retributors, Heavy Bolters. Devastators, but they can't get lascannons or missiles. If your seraphim are dead, they can shoot twice. They're not the best heavy weapon unit on the market, but they're our heavy weapons, and they're not bad.
Seraphim, 2x 2 Inferno Pistol, without an Act of Faith, they are merely passable. They still have hitting power, and are quick, but will be out of range on turn 1. Cheaper than Doms, though.


The general gist of things is that we take a lot of fast mechanized units and blitz the enemy line. We play like an assault army, rushing to close the gap, but we have guns when we get there instead of swords. Unfortunately, there's the rule of 3 and we only really have 1 good unit, but hey, guardsmen are everybody's best friend, or we can grab some similarly-aggressively-minded allies [BA].

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Haven't played them in 8th, just wondering how they are faring as an army? What are the best units/loadouts?

Dominions. riding in a Repressor, with meltaguns.
Dominions, riding in a Repressor, with storm bolters.
Dominions, riding in an Immolator, with meltaguns.
Dominions, riding in an Immolator, with storm bolters.
Celestine
Seraphim, 2x 2 Inferno Pistols, supported by an Act of Faith, they are amazing. They have a lot of hitting power, which with 9 or 10 troops degrades slower than Dominions, and with an AoF are fast enough to get where they need to be and be in range.

There's a theme here. All of these units will have moved over 20" by the end of their first movement phase. When your weapons are only really effective out to 12", you have to be fast.

After that, there are:
Retributors, Heavy Bolters. Devastators, but they can't get lascannons or missiles. If your seraphim are dead, they can shoot twice. They're not the best heavy weapon unit on the market, but they're our heavy weapons, and they're not bad.
Seraphim, 2x 2 Inferno Pistol, without an Act of Faith, they are merely passable. They still have hitting power, and are quick, but will be out of range on turn 1. Cheaper than Doms, though.


The general gist of things is that we take a lot of fast mechanized units and blitz the enemy line. We play like an assault army, rushing to close the gap, but we have guns when we get there instead of swords. Unfortunately, there's the rule of 3 and we only really have 1 good unit, but hey, guardsmen are everybody's best friend, or we can grab some similarly-aggressively-minded allies [BA].

I've collected sisters since 3rd edition, just haven't played them in 8th. Thanks for the advice though.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Yeah they are going to be getting a codex so I see them updated this year, its slowed to have to wait a year without a codex.

GW has already said 2019 at the earliest with the video they released at Adepticon. With the announced "inclusion" of the SoB fans in the design and building process for the army and codex, we have only seen one render of an artwork inspired Sister. So no, they aren't going to be here anytime soon, CA 2018 is supposed to have Beta rules, most likely without models which they will save for the Codex release which the video itself said would be "Emperor Willing 2019".

 dracpanzer wrote:

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
Yeah they are going to be getting a codex so I see them updated this year, its slowed to have to wait a year without a codex.

GW has already said 2019 at the earliest with the video they released at Adepticon. With the announced "inclusion" of the SoB fans in the design and building process for the army and codex, we have only seen one render of an artwork inspired Sister. So no, they aren't going to be here anytime soon, CA 2018 is supposed to have Beta rules, most likely without models which they will save for the Codex release which the video itself said would be "Emperor Willing 2019".

Well that sucks the big one, we'll we've been waiting nearly 2 decades so whats another year.

This is a bit off topic- it's a bit of advice to last minute collecting prior to the codex drop.

The unit most likely to be dramatically altered in a reboot are the Repentia. Given changing attitudes, I could see them getting a huge makeover or being dropped. So even though they aren't one of the best units on the battlefield, if you like the models, snap them up while they're available. They are expensive, but you can often find the old 3-packs on Ebay for a reasonable price (last time I checked anyway).

Also, though repressors are awesome and it would be marketing suicide on GW's behalf to not add them to the codex and release a kit, we have no guarantee that they plan to do so. Which means even though they are arguably the best model in the army, they are the most risky investment from an emotional/ dollar perspective.

If you convert a canopy out of the fantasy mausoleum set and magnetize it, you'll be able to reclaim the rhino in the event that GW makes a terrible, terrible mistake and refuses to give us our glorious repressors. If it's in Chapter Approved, or if we get a preview, I will rest easier.

Finally, the exorcist. In my experience, those who like it love it and those who don't hate it. Forge World even went to the trouble of releasing an alternative versions, and imolator conversions using whirlwind launchers instead of the standard turret were also relatively common. So again, likely to change; if you like the existing model, buy it while you can. It's guaranteed to be in the new dex, and it might get a buff if GW pays attention to forums.

I do have faith we will see a codex and a kit or two in 2019 despite the ominous "Emperor willing 2019."

I would prefer a more substantial release, of course, but if they go that way, it will probably end up being a late release- like December to maximize sales. That would also give them a full year of feedback from Chapter Approved (probably closer to eight months given the production time).

It's also possible/ probable that there will be a sisters kill team kit or box, which has some interesting potential.

PenitentJake wrote:
Also, though repressors are awesome and it would be marketing suicide on GW's behalf to not add them to the codex and release a kit, we have no guarantee that they plan to do so. Which means even though they are arguably the best model in the army, they are the most risky investment from an emotional/ dollar perspective.

I don't think its marketing suicide to remove something you don't make or sell any more and the unit will be available in the Index for as long GW allow its use.

Fictional wrote:

PenitentJake wrote:
Also, though repressors are awesome and it would be marketing suicide on GW's behalf to not add them to the codex and release a kit, we have no guarantee that they plan to do so. Which means even though they are arguably the best model in the army, they are the most risky investment from an emotional/ dollar perspective.

I don't think its marketing suicide to remove something you don't make or sell any more and the unit will be available in the Index for as long GW allow its use.

No, but a 1 prue upgrade kit to go with the Immolator is basically printing money

Oh I agree, I do hope for a full array of SoB plastic kits when the time comes, and even a standalone Repressor upgrade kit would be nice.

Whilst its currently in the FW index, its not like things didnt migrate before, Contemptors being the only example I can actually think of, so always hope.