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Hey all, picking up the hobby again after a few years. Looking at putting this little BA group together

HQ - Jump Pack Chaplain w/ Inferno Pistol - 102 pts

Troops - 2x 5man tactical marine squad in Razorback + Lascannon, HKM - 191 each = 382

Elite - Death Company x7 models with Jump Paks, 3x Power Sword + 3x Thunder Fist = 200 pts

Heavy Sup - Predator with Twin Las, 2 las sponsons, HKM = 208 pts

Heavy Sup - Baal Predator (style choice) + HKM = 106 pts

total = 998 pts, 3 CPs

Not looking to be competitive here, plan is soften up the enemy with 8 lascannon shots, 2 assault cannons and 4 HKMs on the field turn 1 then Jump Pack Assault + charge and use stategem on an enemy weak pt to finish off stragglers and secure objectives, or die trying (more likely). I will keep my tac squads hidden until they lose their transports then run for objective and hide.

I haven't actually bought any models other than the JP Chaplain yet - I just want to charge stuff with BA and this seems like a fun, low cost way to do it :]
CC pleeease

Well, your list is pretty bad. Its only a patrol detachment, you have only 3 CP. BA are pretty CP hungry. 8 lascannons are excessive at 1k. Here is my suggestion :



Captn slamguinius can kill a T7 W12 vehicle in one turn, his hammer does 4 damage, he can re-roll 1s for friendly units when shooting and in melee, angels wings lets you re-roll failed charge rolls and the enemy cannot overwatch. Lemartes buffs the DC, he lets them re-roll failed charge rolls and all failed hit rolls in the fight phase. DC can kill anything you point them at. ML on the tacs can use flakk missile to do D3 MW to a flyer. HB on the tacs can use hellfire shells to do D3 MW to anything. The list gives you 8 CP to play with.

Wow ya that's way better XD Thanks for the suggestions, I have literally 0 experience with 8th ed so I am grateful to get some ideas before I spend any money. Lemartes rerolling charge rolls is sick.

Can you take the Armory of Baal stuff free of points? Like, it's just something you get to pick for adhering to the list rules?

You get a free relic when your army has a warlord. You can buy a second relic for 1 CP for another character, like the veritas vitae for lemartes. It lets you roll a dice everytime you use a stratagem. On a 5+ you get 1 CP.

BA can win without relying on CP. Don't let anyone tell you different.

I like your first list, but I'd take points away from a lot of your upgrades and shift the points to increase the size of your DC squad and put sponsons on the Baal Predator.

If you want to play an "in-your-face" BA Army, you'll definitely want Lemartes and a Captain Smashy.

8th edition is about preventing your opponent from doing 'X'. Preventing your opponent from shooting with that big blasty thing for 1 round, while you grab tactical objective points, is much more critical than a board wipe. Remember, your army can get wiped off the table by round 3... but if you grabbed more tactical objective points than your opponent, you still win.

In my opinion, the weapons mix on the Death Company that p5freak recommended is a bit weird.

Bolter+Chainsword is definitely the best for anti-horde
Bolter+Power Sword is best for anti-MEQ
Thunder Hammer is best for anti-vehicle

If you want all-rounders, I would do something like:
6x Bolter+Chainsword
2x Bolter+Power Sword
2x Thunder Hammer

Which is also 238 points.

 Cake Farts wrote:

I like your first list, but I'd take points away from a lot of your upgrades and shift the points to increase the size of your DC squad and put sponsons on the Baal Predator.

Baal preds are overpriced. An AC razorback can do the same for -30 points, and it can carry 6 models.

Suzuteo wrote:
In my opinion, the weapons mix on the Death Company that p5freak recommended is a bit weird.

Its a mix against high T targets and hordes.

 p5freak wrote:

Suzuteo wrote:
In my opinion, the weapons mix on the Death Company that p5freak recommended is a bit weird.

Its a mix against high T targets and hordes.

Yes, but it seems odd to me. Looks like you just mixed up every single part in the DC kit?

Even so, why this:

4x Boltgun, Chainsword
2x Boltgun, Power Fist
2x Chainsword, Inferno Pistol
1x Thunder Hammer

Over this?

6x Boltgun, Chainsword
2x Inferno Pistol, Power Fist
1x Thunder Hammer

I agree with Suzuteo. It’s much better advice.