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2000ad stalwart Rogue Trooper is coming to the big screen, directed by Duncan ‘son of Bowie’ Jones.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/59108/rogue-trooper-movie-coming-from-duncan-jones

Now, seeing as 2000ad seems to have failed to penetrate the US market, here’s the wiki page.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_Trooper

I consider this good news, as just as I love Dredd, I also love Rogue Trooper.

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Dredd was a fantastic movie.
   
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Rogue Trooper is my second fav 2000AD IP.

For the uninitiated, please enjoy this fan film:



   
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Nice use of NERF guns

Prettty excellent effort though,

   
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I love Rogue Trooper. I was always a huge fan of the comics. The chips-as-comrades conceit was a really clever idea for a lone super soldier to have some funny dialogue. And I loved the world of Rogue Trooper, it was really like something out of 40K (which I didn't come to til after years of reading Rogue Trooper, so the descriptions of Baal really seemed like it was the same world.

   
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GI could definitely be a pre-Dark Age thing in 40k.

Indeed, anytime I read about genhanced non-Astartes in the Heresy, it’s Rogue, Venus and Tor I think of.

   
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Rebellion also put up a primer on Rogue (assembled comic strips) for free (downloadable pdf)

http://content.2000ad.com/roguetrooperprimer.pdf

Duncan Jones posted this on twitter:

https://t.co/6y3pzn2Cn1

Finally, this is a hero I can get behind. No spandex, just dark humour, great one-liners (Unlike Horatio Caine, he doesn't need sunglasses to pull the lines off) and carnage. Now all we need is another Urban Dredd film (or a tv series would also work).

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That fan film was surprisingly top-notch! Thanks for posting it.

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I liked the original Rogue Trooper, but if they're going to make a movie of it it'd be nice to see them re-characterising the Norts as they did in the Jaegir series - where they're less of an expy for the Soviets for the reader to get off seeing them murdered in their hundreds each week.



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Out of the original run there wasn't much to humanise the Norts, and eventually the series went really off the rails (and that's before they went into space and the "real" enemy was a bunch of aliens. ...Or was it humans acting like they were aliens. ...or was the whole thing a war between corporations. ...eugh).

It'd be nice if there's some sort of scene like that one shot issue from the perspective of two young Norts. Who spend the issue limping through Nu Earth slowly dying after the Southers wipe out their squad. They wonder if the stories about how barbaric the Southers are could be true, whilst thinking that the Southers probably say the same about them. Before trudging towards the Souther lines to become prisoners of war.

...Then the Rogue Trooper shoots them like they're just any other Nort cannon fodder.


Still its also a pity that the Dredd films didn't become a thing. I feel the way they handled the sequels in the comic became a bit ...well comic like, rather than coming across as a film script. Where certain interactions were like they'd be in a comic, i.e. over the top, rather than the more down to earth nature of the film (...Dredd was itself an action flick, but its still more realistic than the world of the comics). Mega City One looked like Joburg in the film, but in the comics it went back to looking like it did in the comics (till it was essentially just the comics Judge Dredd with slightly different looking uniforms by the latest issues), which seem like a massive waste of potential. I prefer the more grounded/ serious takes on these settings, but with 2000AD's format its difficult to see much of that outside of the dedicated spin off comics and maybe Judge Dredd magazine. :/

Now whatever happened to this I wonder...?


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Still in Development and pre-production.

Shopping it around for distribution deals last I heard.

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Jaegir is awesome and so is the traitor general spin-off that follows the bastard Rogue is trying to hunt down.

Though the latter usually boils down to "he does something clever, it all breaks apart, so he runs away again in a nick of time and does something clever somewhere else and the process repeats"



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Jaegir is fantastic.

I really disliked the Dredd film. Got it on Blu Ray, and it just seemed pointlessly, joylessly brutal. Almost none of the utter insanity of the comic to lighten the mood, just GRIMDARK (Karl Urban was great, though). The same week I watched it, I read the latest Prog where Dredd rode his bike up a giant tapeworm causing it to eat itself and allowing MC1 to recycle it into hamburgers.

By the Three Mothers, don't let this go the same way. Give us some light. I will never understand the "Action movies must be 18 - cert gorefests or they're dreadful" thing.
   
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Dredd can be all things.

Thoughout his run, it’s done outright comedy, dark comedy, serious horror, thrillers, even romance.

And to get the punchline in Dredd, I’d say you first need to accept the hyper violence but that’s just my opinion, and not gospel or a ticking off

Still excited for Rogue Trooper.

   
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I have been getting the Dredd and Trooper compendiums over the past years.
This is gread news, as was the later Dredd film.
I'd not seen about that fan-made film 'til today, after a hunt through IMDB for the Jones one. Will have to grab that later. Looks a lot like the Judge Minty thing they did.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Dredd can be all things.

Thoughout his run, it’s done outright comedy, dark comedy, serious horror, thrillers, even romance.

And to get the punchline in Dredd, I’d say you first need to accept the hyper violence but that’s just my opinion, and not gospel or a ticking off

Still excited for Rogue Trooper.


And it's not like the movie was entirely dour, it's just that what humour was there was really, really dark and often really, really dry - hotshot, the hobodoor, Anderson mind****ing the criminal, the guy with the eyecams doing a bit to get Central to authorise the whole War scenario, little moments with the backup Judges & the corrupt Judges etc.

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 Skinnereal wrote:
I have been getting the Dredd and Trooper compendiums over the past years.
This is gread news, as was the later Dredd film.
I'd not seen about that fan-made film 'til today, after a hunt through IMDB for the Jones one. Will have to grab that later. Looks a lot like the Judge Minty thing they did.


Yeah, it's a related thing - the Judge Minty guys also helped out with a Stronty dog fan film, too. Johnny and Wulf.

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Im actually fairly surprised we’ve not had more 2000ad adaptations.

There’s a serious body of work to choose from - hell, I’d love a Future Shocks Portmanteau type film. Think Tales from the Crypt, but with a SciFi feel.

And it can all be done on a relatively low budget. I mean, sure. The exterior MC-1 in Dredd wasn’t up to snuff (one thing the Stallone take actually nailed). But the inside of Peach Trees was just about perfect, and didn’t require flashy sets.

Similarly for Rogue Trooper, it’s not going to be effects heavy in the way most comic book or sci-fi films are these days. Choose the right locations, and some suitable props and you’re pretty much good to go.

Hey, who knows. If Rogue Trooper does well, it might be enough to finally get a Dredd sequel on the screen.

   
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Yeah, right locations and a lot of smoke and fog will do RT.

Since Nu-Earth is an overpolluted toxic hell-hole that makes even JD's "Black Atlantic" look like purified water. There are often chem-clouds and other noxious things that occlude most of the background.

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Alright, I know next to nothing about Rogue Trooper why is this something I should look forward to and why is he topless (that doesn't seem smart for a soldier)? Like I haven't read 2000 AD or Dredd but I know vaguely what it's about from the movie and pop culture osmosis.

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He's topless to show that, on a planet so heavily bombarded with chemical, biological and nuclear weaponry that the air will dissolve an unprotected human, he's unaffected.

And blue.
   
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@Cheescat: Watch da fan film above.

   
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 Graphite wrote:
He's topless to show that, on a planet so heavily bombarded with chemical, biological and nuclear weaponry that the air will dissolve an unprotected human, he's unaffected.

And blue.


Are their bodies resistant to guns and explosives?
   
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Nope. But they have superior reflexes and healing ability.

Main reason for the lack of armour is that to take out Norts, you just cut their respirator tubes.

Bulky armour stops you being stealthy.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope. But they have superior reflexes and healing ability.

Main reason for the lack of armour is that to take out Norts, you just cut their respirator tubes.

Bulky armour stops you being stealthy.


Are bullet proof vests that bulky? Do they impede stealth significantly? I've never worn one. It's a neat visual having topless super soldiers, I'll give them that, even if it doesn't make much sense to me (atm).

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No. Realistically it makes no sense for him to have no armour, but at least he wears a helmet.

Which talks to him.


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Oh, and the fact that, back in the late 70's when Rogue was dreamed up, I don't think real world soldiers tended to wear much in the way of body armour generally, so it's not that out of keeping with "normality" at the time. The Norts and Southers don't wear armoured chem suits, either.

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I'm gonna say it's because it helps his agility and suits his combat style, also he distracts his opponent with his marvelous pecs, and it's the best way of marketing it to women!

But seriously, it's just because of rule of cool I think.

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 Cheesecat wrote:
Alright, I know next to nothing about Rogue Trooper why is this something I should look forward to and why is he topless (that doesn't seem smart for a soldier)? Like I haven't read 2000 AD or Dredd but I know vaguely what it's about from the movie and pop culture osmosis.


Doesn't need it. He's genetically designed to be tougher than humans, and the bulky suits they have to wear to survive on nu-Earth will slow him down and be more of a hindrance than a help.
The thing about Nu-Earth is that its such a war torn hellscape that humans can't survive without NBC suits. Which means that all it takes is a damaged respirator to get killed, not to mention they are really heavy and limit mobility. GIs (Genetic Infantry) were designed explicitly to be able to forgo having to wear such equipment.

There's also the fact that GIs are cheaply manufactured and their personality is contained on a chip; it doesn't matter if one dies, all what the Southers have to do is make a new body and shove the chip into it.
So its cheaper and more practical just to send one to the field with minimal armor, thus freeing up a suit for a human who'll actually needs it.

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That's a good in universe explanation for the topless lads, with pecs being able to distract the enemy being a close second.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Im actually fairly surprised we’ve not had more 2000ad adaptations.

There’s a serious body of work to choose from - hell, I’d love a Future Shocks Portmanteau type film. Think Tales from the Crypt, but with a SciFi feel.

And it can all be done on a relatively low budget. I mean, sure. The exterior MC-1 in Dredd wasn’t up to snuff (one thing the Stallone take actually nailed). But the inside of Peach Trees was just about perfect, and didn’t require flashy sets.

Similarly for Rogue Trooper, it’s not going to be effects heavy in the way most comic book or sci-fi films are these days. Choose the right locations, and some suitable props and you’re pretty much good to go.

Hey, who knows. If Rogue Trooper does well, it might be enough to finally get a Dredd sequel on the screen.



The film "Hardware" by Richard Stanley is actually an adaptation of a Tharg's Future Shock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_(film)

I love the movie but haven't watched it for a while so may seem a little dated now.

But totally agree - so many more great stories to choose from.

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