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My friend and i play casually and very rarely. But next month we are actually gonna play a game of 40k. Neither of us are updated with the 8th edition so we will stick to 7th edition for now.

This is my rule question:

I have two units of necron warriors next to each other. 6" from them is a enemy unit of space marines. Can both of my units charge into the same enemy unit of space marines in the same charge phase? If yes, my second unit of warriors will most probably not get in base contact with the enemy unit, but they will get in base contact with the other warrior unit and that unit is in base contact with the space marines.

When the fight begins will the three units just do the initiative step and fight as normal?

Yes, you can charge with both units. Declare the first unit, get overwatched, roll charge range, move models, then declare a charge with the second unit - if the second unit does not roll a high enough charge distance to get at least one model into contact with the marines, then it is a failed charge and the unit doesn’t move at all.

 Quanar wrote:
Yes, you can charge with both units. Declare the first unit, get overwatched, roll charge range, move models, then declare a charge with the second unit - if the second unit does not roll a high enough charge distance to get at least one model into contact with the marines, then it is a failed charge and the unit doesn’t move at all.

Thank you! So the important thing is that my second unit must get in base contact with the marines? If the first charging unit rolled a great distance to charge meaning that my warriors surrounds the space marine unit leaving no space marine bases, the second unit wont be able to charge no matter the rolled charge distance?

Potentially yes, however only the 1st model in the first unit HAS to be in base contact, and same with the 2nd Unit.
So you could charge the first unit in and just leave a 1 or 2 model wide gap so the 2nd Unit can also attempt to charge

FireSkullz2 wrote:
Potentially yes, however only the 1st model in the first unit HAS to be in base contact, and same with the 2nd Unit.
So you could charge the first unit in and just leave a 1 or 2 model wide gap so the 2nd Unit can also attempt to charge

Ok, i was under the impression that when you move your models in after the first model you must always try to make base contact as much as you can, and when that is not possible you just move them in freely.

If i just have to make base contact with the first (closest to closest rule) then my assault plans won't be an issue.


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What i was trying to say was that when i move my models in i must prioritize base contact as much as i can but only as far as my charge roll goes.

FireSkullz2 wrote:
Potentially yes, however only the 1st model in the first unit HAS to be in base contact, and same with the 2nd Unit.
So you could charge the first unit in and just leave a 1 or 2 model wide gap so the 2nd Unit can also attempt to charge

Sorry, this is incorrect for 7th (rather than 8th, where it would be fine I think). I'll rephrase that.

Now I'm home and can dig out my old rulebook - page 46 (think the page numbers are the same for the mini version... it's been a while) details the requirements for moving charging models, including ones that aren't the initial. They must still be in coherency, and either need to try and make base contact with an "unengaged" enemy model, or failing that into "support" range of a friendly from the same unit.

The trick may be that after the initial charger, you can choose the order you move models, so could limit yourself in that fashion.

Assuming you make it in, yes all attacks for that combat as a whole are resolved in one rotation of Initiative steps.

 Quanar wrote:

FireSkullz2 wrote:
Potentially yes, however only the 1st model in the first unit HAS to be in base contact, and same with the 2nd Unit.
So you could charge the first unit in and just leave a 1 or 2 model wide gap so the 2nd Unit can also attempt to charge

Sorry, this is incorrect for 7th (rather than 8th, where it would be fine I think). I'll rephrase that.

Now I'm home and can dig out my old rulebook - page 46 (think the page numbers are the same for the mini version... it's been a while) details the requirements for moving charging models, including ones that aren't the initial. They must still be in coherency, and either need to try and make base contact with an "unengaged" enemy model, or failing that into "support" range of a friendly from the same unit.

The trick may be that after the initial charger, you can choose the order you move models, so could limit yourself in that fashion.

Assuming you make it in, yes all attacks for that combat as a whole are resolved in one rotation of Initiative steps.

Thank you! But still, if my second unit can't make base contact with at least one enemy model the second units charge has failed?

Biffy wrote:
Thank you! But still, if my second unit can't make base contact with at least one enemy model the second units charge has failed?

Correct, just being able to get to “supporting” distance of the first unit is not enough to count as a successful charge.