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News was that Alara was leaving the show, but she's in the S2 trailer (though not in some scenes you'd expect to see her so she might be departing mid-season?)

I still love Bortus. Season 1 highlight reel spoilered below:

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good.

.. enjoyed this more than Discovery .


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What? Less Alara? I like her.

   
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No!!!! I really enjoyed Alara. Super excited this got picked up again. It was a lot of fun.

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Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.


There are moments of that, but not too many. The show spends a decent amount of time on the other characters and the cast chemistry is really good. Also I went into the first series expecting a total Star Trek spoof and it’s not; very much an actual Star Trek style series, with a few jokes and a bit less morality. And some surprisingly deep storylines at times (the one where they infiltrate a Krill ship is very interesting).

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I liked it. I am convinced he pulled a fast one on Fox by pitching a penis joke parody and then dialed it back three episodes in so he could have a Trek show, because while the jokes are still there, some nicely serious stories started showing up, like Bortus' child.

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I hope Alara isn't going anywhere, she was one of the better characters. That seemed like a dumb rumor with little substance to begin with though.

 
   
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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I liked it. I am convinced he pulled a fast one on Fox by pitching a penis joke parody and then dialed it back three episodes in so he could have a Trek show, because while the jokes are still there, some nicely serious stories started showing up, like Bortus' child.


Yup, in the end the show never really went beyond the more lighthearted TNG and TOS episodes in tone. The subject matter of the jokes might be a bit cruder than Trek is usually known for, but it's not like the show was entirely po-faced even during the fully right-on period of TNG that gave us stuff like the Skant. The third episode was solid, but it was the fourth that made me go "ah OK this is basically just Star Trek".

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It's TNG with a bit more humour, and less formal language, and I don't really see a problem with that.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.


I doubt he's going to win over any McFarlane-haters with this but the show is more of an ensemble piece and he's only really centre-stage in about 3-4 of the episodes.

As for his character, Captain Ed Mercer, he's no Kirk or Picard 'flag-ship captaining space legend', nor made out to be the best of the best - he's a talented officer whose career stalled because of problems in his personal life and is now being given a chance in the big chair on a small exploration vessel. He isn't shown as having any serious character flaws (like Janeway's micromanagement), and in the context of the show is portrayed as making the 'right' decisions most of the time. Unlike Picard (higlighted due to the similarity to TNG) he isn't aloof from his crew socially.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Is Seth McFarlane tolerable in this? I tend to find him horribly smug.


The show is great. Go watch it and see for yourself!

   
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I don't quite get the show... is it supposed to be funny, because what I seen was ok, and other the otherhand, doesn't take itself serious enough to be a drama. Since it wanders around in the middle, I lost interest.

I feel like if it went crazy funny it would have been better.
   
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It's "realistic", neither an out-and-out comedy, nor super serious.

   
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I'm looking forward to the next season. There were some good episodes and some bad but overall it was worth watching even if I almost gave up on it in the middle. I just hope they redecorate the budget IKEA mess hall as those "props" look like they came straight out of aisle 4 in the IKEA maze.

   
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 Riquende wrote:
As for his character, Captain Ed Mercer, he's no Kirk or Picard 'flag-ship captaining space legend', nor made out to be the best of the best - he's a talented officer whose career stalled because of problems in his personal life and is now being given a chance in the big chair on a small exploration vessel. He isn't shown as having any serious character flaws (like Janeway's micromanagement), and in the context of the show is portrayed as making the 'right' decisions most of the time. Unlike Picard (higlighted due to the similarity to TNG) he isn't aloof from his crew socially.


Captain Mercer was top of his class at the Academy, who crashed out when he found out his wife had an affair.

It's pretty clear in the first season that his main flaw was a lack of self-confidence, starting from the pilot, and only really "resolved" in the last episode. He basically spends the first season "faking it" until he makes it. He's a guy with tremendous potential, that constantly sells himself short, and doesn't quite get that he's doing a damn good job because he's comparing against some sort of unattainable perfection. There's a certain Mr. Roberts goes to Washington in the character. Of all the starship Captains, he's the one I would be happiest to serve under.

Thing is, this sort of thing is rampant throughout his entire crew. The Doctor could have been on a not-Enterprise, but she dialed back for her kids. Security is even more unsure of herself. And so on. Very competent, but needing leadership and inspiration to excel.

   
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The season 2 premiere is on right now.

edit: Just finished. I don't want to post any spoilers so all I'll say is that I wish it hadn't been entirely focused on interpersonal issues. Maybe classic Trek spoiled me but I expected something a bit more like exploration or overcoming an external threat for the big season premiere. I wonder if this is the episode that got cut from last season and pushed into this one as that could explain it.

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Interesting open, more for returning fans than new viewers. It works well if you already know all of the characters, whereas it's not nearly as good coming in cold.

Last season was supposed to have one more episode that got pushed to this year. I think this was it. Narratively, it's something that you'd want right before a true season finale.

   
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 KTG17 wrote:
I don't quite get the show... is it supposed to be funny, because what I seen was ok, and other the otherhand, doesn't take itself serious enough to be a drama. Since it wanders around in the middle, I lost interest.

I feel like if it went crazy funny it would have been better.

It feels to me like they set out to create a satirical take on Star Trek and then realised when they got into it just how absurd most Star Trek actually is and said 'Alrighty, then - let's just do that!'

My wife and I are still working through series one (just picked up the DVD), but so far aside from the anachronistic language and pop-culture references, there hasn't been a single episode that wouldn't have fit in perfectly as an episode of TNG or Voyager. Which does mean it works best if you don't take it too seriously, but we're enjoying it for just that reason.

   
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Ah the show that is technically more star trek than star trek is.

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I loved it. One thing that Trek rarely did is 'the crew are technically cooped up with each other so any small thing could really escalate' and we got that in the opener in myriad ways. It's true it's more of a mid-season bottle show but nontheless it worked well for me.

honestly laughed aloud when Mercer's shuttle crept into shot outside Grayson's window.

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i don';t watch anything that has any connection to seth macfarlan. His shows like family guy anhd amnerican dad make it pretty clear he likes to be hateful to fat people and since I'm one of them I hate him for the way he always has to portray people like me. It's basically an acceptable form of stereotyping.
   
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OK, wow, I did *not* expect that. Troi's mom on TNG was one thing, but The Orville took it to a whole 'nother level!

   
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I'm glad it's back, but unfortunately Fox are already playing silly buggers with the episode order.

What is it with them, sci-fi shows, and episode orders?

   
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I actually missed yesterday's episode. Ack! I forgot.

   
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That was top drawer, would have been a rock solid TNG episode!

Solid 'A' and 'B' plots that give us a very Trek tropish 'evacuate the planet' plot and also the proper development of a relationship drawing on established events, and have the latter impact the former considerably. I loved that they didn't technobabble a 'we can save them all' solution from thin air, I felt there was a significant emotional punch in the last few minutes.

"You have had enough injections" - killer line from Klyden!

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Not having magical Transporter technology helps a lot. It's probably the best differentiator.

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