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Made in gb
Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine



London

"When this model moves, do not count any vertical distance it moves against the total it may travel"

Does a charge count as a move, and therefore acts similarly to fly, and also the pile in/consolidate move.

Does this mean it can consolidate up 3 floors of terrain for 0"?

For those that are wondering where the confusion is, is a "move" in 40k a specific action of moving the model up to it's move characteristic, or is it anything that means the physical model is in a different position to its current location.
   
Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

Yes charging is moving, its called charge move. Pile in/consolidate is also moving. Both rules say : "You man move each model in the unit......"
   
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine



London

Thank you!
   
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Bear in mind that some terrain won’t allow a MONSTER to be above the ground floor, e.g. Ruins, so check your keywords and terrain rules.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran




Ankh Morpork

I'll add that per the rulebook FAQ in the 'Reinforcements' section, a charge move is not a move for the purpose of not being able to move further in the turn a unit arrives as reinforcements - you may still make a charge move after after arriving as reinforcements. Otherwise though, yes, it's a move.
   
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 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bear in mind that some terrain won’t allow a MONSTER to be above the ground floor, e.g. Ruins, so check your keywords and terrain rules.


Unless they have FLY, in which case their all good
   
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Chicago, IL

mchammadad wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bear in mind that some terrain won’t allow a MONSTER to be above the ground floor, e.g. Ruins, so check your keywords and terrain rules.


Unless they have FLY, in which case their all good


To land on the ground floor of a ruin? Yes.

To land on anything but the ground floor of a ruin? No. since a MONSTER can never finish its move on anything but the ground floor of a ruin. (Unless I missed an FaQ somewhere within the 50 FaQ's that need to be organized better).

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 DeathReaper wrote:
mchammadad wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bear in mind that some terrain won’t allow a MONSTER to be above the ground floor, e.g. Ruins, so check your keywords and terrain rules.


Unless they have FLY, in which case their all good


To land on the ground floor of a ruin? Yes.

To land on anything but the ground floor of a ruin? No. since a MONSTER can never finish its move on anything but the ground floor of a ruin. (Unless I missed an FaQ somewhere within the 50 FaQ's that need to be organized better).
I agree wholeheartedly the FAQ situation is extremely poorly done, not even going into the fact that they should have done it right the first time (and thus not needed so many FAQs and Special Snowflake FAQs).

To answer your question, the rulebook errata changed how ruins work. The first line for Ruins now states
Unless they can FLY, VEHICLES,MONSTERS, CAVALRY and BIKERS can only be set up or end their move on the ground floor of ruins.
So something like a Flyrant can go onto the top level of Ruins, while a Carnifex (and, hilariously, Rowboat Girlyman) cannot.

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Cardiff

Exactly. And as we were discussing a Dimachaeron discussing FLY rules wasn’t really relevant so I didn’t mention it, but now it’s all squared away. My only point was that the OP couldn’t do what they intended, i.e. scaling Ruins, because of MONSTER.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

Actually he said terrain not ruin. If the ruin is not a ruin but terrain the dimachaeron can go up there.
   
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Cardiff

 p5freak wrote:
Actually he said terrain not ruin. If the ruin is not a ruin but terrain the dimachaeron can go up there.


Yep, which *still* doesn't change my 'check terrain rules and keywords' advice. ;-)

OP did mention floors, so I inferred Ruins and offered relevant advice.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
 
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