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2018/08/08 18:27:28
Subject: Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Does this ability apply to the Archon if it is in a transport?
Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly Kabal units that are within 6" of this model
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/08/08 18:28:13
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2018/08/08 18:33:50
Subject: Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Norn Queen
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vindicare0412 wrote:Does this ability apply to the Archon if it is in a transport?
Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly Kabal units that are within 6" of this model
BRB Page 183, "Transports" Boxout, Subtitle "Embark", Paragraph 2, Sentence 2 wrote:Unless specifically stated, abilities that affect other units within a certain range have no effect whilst the unit that has the ability is embarked.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/08/08 18:34:18
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2018/08/08 18:34:01
Subject: Re:Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Lieutenant General
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From 'Transports' page 183 of the main rulebook:
Embarked units cannot normally do anything or be affected in any way whilst they are embarked. Unless specifically stated, abilities that affect other units within a certain range have no effect whilst the unit that has the ability is embarked.
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2018/08/08 18:38:07
Subject: Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Fresh-Faced New User
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 BaconCatBug wrote:vindicare0412 wrote:Does this ability apply to the Archon if it is in a transport?
Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly Kabal units that are within 6" of this model
BRB Page 183, "Transports" Boxout, Subtitle "Embark", Paragraph 2, Sentence 2 wrote:Unless specifically stated, abilities that affect other units within a certain range have no effect whilst the unit that has the ability is embarked.
Sorry I should have been more specific. Does it apply to the Archon? I would argue that it would apply to only the Archon as he is not another unit. However its ambiguous enough to me to see it not working too.
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2018/08/08 18:46:58
Subject: Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Norn Queen
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vindicare0412 wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:vindicare0412 wrote:Does this ability apply to the Archon if it is in a transport? Re-roll hit rolls of 1 for friendly Kabal units that are within 6" of this model
BRB Page 183, "Transports" Boxout, Subtitle "Embark", Paragraph 2, Sentence 2 wrote:Unless specifically stated, abilities that affect other units within a certain range have no effect whilst the unit that has the ability is embarked.
Sorry I should have been more specific. Does it apply to the Archon? I would argue that it would apply to only the Archon as he is not another unit. However its ambiguous enough to me to see it not working too.
BRB, Page 179, "Aura Abilities" sidebar, Paragraph 1, Sentence 2. The Overlord ability doesn't exclude the Archon, and he has the <KABAL> keyword, so it affects him. Of course this doesn't apply when embarked on a transport, due to the Transport rules stated previously.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/08/08 18:49:27
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2018/08/08 18:52:32
Subject: Archon Overlord Ability and Transports
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It has no effect because the aura normally affects other units as well as itself, and them saying it has no effect shuts the ability down totally, not just for other units.
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