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Has anyone else noticed the Ork community disappearing recently? Either in your local META, tournament scene or even on Dakka or other forums? It used to be I could check Dakka and see at least 1-2 new threads a day that had something to do with orkz, now I haven't been here in days and I come back to zero new threads and about 6 new comments in total over 3 different forums and 4 different threads

Orks were my 1st army, biggest army in terms of models, and still, my least played army.

It seems like we are always waiting for the next update to be better....

The new books gives me a little hope though. Maybe, just maybe this time they'll be playable!

Orks are kind of in stasis right now. Some are likely burnt out waiting on the edge of their seat for a break.

Things have been slower. I think there's a few different reasons:
A lot of Index Orks stuff has already been talked to death.
With the new codex being soon (hopefully) there is a reasonable tendency to sit still and wait.
There isn't much to do but uselessly complain, which gets pretty annoying after a while.

Edit: I guess wishlisting and coming up with proposed fixes could be added to the part I wrote about complaining. Those even feel like a waste of time at this point.


I've been enjoying Guy Haley's new Ork audio dramas.

Ork community hasn't dropped off - all the boyz are in waiting, for the new codex to drop.

There hasn't been anything new to discuss since the beginning of 8th edition [since they're still stuck on the index], we've gotten no previews since the announcement of the Ork codex (unlike every other faction sans Space Wolves), and Orks have gotten the short end of the stick since 3rd edition (18 years ago btw);

Orks are here; just like in the lore, they're never going away - they're just waiting for their time, to Waaagh! the universe anew.

It doesn't help they're the communal punching bag, in every exchange (see the recent "How many Killa Kans can a Knight kill?" article).


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I also need to addendum that to put into perspective just how little love Orks have from GW;

GW didn't have 4000 points of Orks, which is why the army wasn't used at Adepticon;

Story: GW is not playing Orks at Adepticon because - and I quote - "It's genuinely is because the studio Ork army is not 4,000 points! No conspiracy theory here - that's the truth! We do love Orks too... trust us!"
Send the WAAAGH!!! to GW

How can they not have 4000 points of one of the oldest, largest, and most iconic 40k armies? Worse yet - how can they not have 4000 points of Orks, when the entire codex is horrendously overcosted (excluding boyz/stormboyz/kommandos)?

There was also a community event to send Ork models to GW, to help them build up their army reserves - and also be a fun, community building event on both sides. And while I'm not sure of the final total amount of models that were sent; there was zero peep out of GW that this happened. Not even a nod of "Hey, we know we said we didn't have enough Boyz; but the tribes banded together and we're ready for a new WAAAGH!" ~ or something along those lines. You see where I'm coming from.

I also kind of fell off of 40k. No real relevant news and nobody to play with regularly.

We haven't gone away. We are at the top of the GW rollercoaster hill. The moment when everyone takes a deep breath before the plunge. We are ready to unleash a mighty WAAAAAGGGHHH!!!!! before we trash the whole universe. It will come and we will destroy all who oppose us for we are the mighty orks none will oppose us. The universe will be one color and that is Green!!!!

They're one of the last codexes that are gonna come out barring something new and truthfully have been in a bad spot since 6th. A lot of there kits could use an update, which also doesn't attract new players either.

Nothing to talk about. Haven't really had an itch to play orks for half a year. Just too boring. And core rules don't help either. Boring rules, boring one-dimensional army.
Have only played a couple times when people asked me to. Since i'm the only ork player left around here. There used to be like 6 or 7 in 5-th edition.

Rising and then falling hype.

I had thought Orks would be out by now.
Or at least we would be getting leaks (official or otherwise).

Instead now its looking like October at the earliest, potentially into November, which feels like a life time away. (Obviously 2 months isn't, but still).

In some ways this makes me more optimistic there might be some models, but at the same time GW are running out of weeks (as weird as that sounds).

I haven't had a game in over a month I think. I thought my usual Scrumgrod was calling to schedule a game but instead told me he's selling all of his 40K armies and won't get back in for 6 months at the earliest. Seems he's run off all his player base by being too competitive or something. I'm probably not going to get more than one more game in this year. Which is a shame, I was planning to find a way to pack in a load of small games when the codex comes out but now I'd be forced to play a bunch of randoms. Too much anxiety for that.
Really looking forward to new discussions about Orks.
Hope they are at least interesting. Less math hammer more Orks do it best this way. It's been so slow I sat through part of a Long War pod cast and I don't even like those guys.
To end on an up note I painted 2806 points in modes from May till August for the Orks Subforum over on the B&C. So at least I've had something Ork related to occupy myself with.

I wish ork players were dropping off but they all seem to be over in the News and Rumours section channelling their inner SoB player.

SeanDrake wrote:
I wish ork players were dropping off but they all seem to be over in the News and Rumours section channelling their inner SoB player.

I think they've actually merged the inner SoB with the old Necron and Dark Eldar torments too!!

I think there's two distinct answers to this particular question.

In terms of Kill Team there seems have been an influx of new Ork player who want to give a few greenskeens a go in a small setting. There have been a few new Ork players joining on the back of that, though I suspect most are waiting to see if the codex is any good before they commit further to a full army.

In terms of 40k players there has definitely been a drop off. What do you expect though? One of the most iconic factions in all of 40k is yet again getting the short end of the stick, after getting the short end of the stick for around 18 years. People are tired. I'm one of them. I can either sit and moan online (which I have done a little of) or I can just do other things. I've opted to do other things. If the release is codex only and poor I will express my discontent and likely leave the hobby for an extended amount of time.

" GW didn't have 4000 points of Orks, which is why the army wasn't used at Adepticon;

" Story: GW is not playing Orks at Adepticon because - and I quote - "It's genuinely is because the studio Ork army is not 4,000 points! No conspiracy theory here - that's the truth! We do love Orks too... trust us!" "

GW studio could have 4000 points of Orks in an afternoon PROVIDED all you needed was a slop-n-go paint job. Spray paint, some details, base, flock, done.

But to add even 1000 points of Orks painted to studio quality, consistent with the rest of the existing studio Ork army, ready to be photographed and have the photos published in White Dwarf, that's a whole other thing.

Biggest reason my participation regardin orks dropped on in this forum, tons of people are super negative. You can't even suggest one positive thing to do with orks without at least two people throwing a page full of out of context maths at you to knock down what you had to say.

Hell, fully half the bumps in the ork rumor thread in the last week have been baseless suggestions about GW incompetance and conspiracy amongst the playtest group.

No drop off here but as others have said, nothing new to say. other than "I'm looking for a new army.... try orks - they're fun..."

phydaux wrote:
" GW didn't have 4000 points of Orks, which is why the army wasn't used at Adepticon;

" Story: GW is not playing Orks at Adepticon because - and I quote - "It's genuinely is because the studio Ork army is not 4,000 points! No conspiracy theory here - that's the truth! We do love Orks too... trust us!" "

GW studio could have 4000 points of Orks in an afternoon PROVIDED all you needed was a slop-n-go paint job. Spray paint, some details, base, flock, done.

But to add even 1000 points of Orks painted to studio quality, consistent with the rest of the existing studio Ork army, ready to be photographed and have the photos published in White Dwarf, that's a whole other thing.

Couldn't they just used the army of someone working at the GW? if they say they play orcs, then there should be a few people with that many points.

GW likely has rules or at least guidelines on the quality of paintwork and army that they want to promote. Ergo all current models, good quality painting etc... when they attend an event.

It's not just playing a game for them when they turn up to a major tournament; its marketing. Staff who had poorer painted forces or older or converted models might not be allowed; plus it might be that no members of staff who collect orks wanted to or was able to go (and didn't want another person taking their army).

GW might not even have considered it and just gone for ther own in-house show-armies to use

 davou wrote:
Biggest reason my participation regardin orks dropped on in this forum, tons of people are super negative. You can't even suggest one positive thing to do with orks without at least two people throwing a page full of out of context maths at you to knock down what you had to say.

Hell, fully half the bumps in the ork rumor thread in the last week have been baseless suggestions about GW incompetance and conspiracy amongst the playtest group.

It's a real nasty entitled additude yeah, the idea that Orks are somehow super iconic and not putting their codex out immediatly is somehow a calculated insult.

Meanwhile; we're arguing about whether GW can grab a staff players army, instead of WHY they don't have 4000 points of professionally painted models; unlike multiple other factions.

Oh wait, Orks having been around since Rogue Trader days or anything... I keep forgetting they're such a new army.

Doesn't help that the latest release from GW's Facebook page has a message from a Space Wolf leader, but the art shows SW vs GSC, instead of SW vs Orks...

fe40k wrote:
Meanwhile; we're arguing about whether GW can grab a staff players army, instead of WHY they don't have 4000 points of professionally painted models; unlike multiple other factions.

Oh wait, Orks having been around since Rogue Trader days or anything... I keep forgetting they're such a new army.

Could be that they cheaped out the entire army and is now half the value it used to be.

 helgrenze wrote:

fe40k wrote:
Meanwhile; we're arguing about whether GW can grab a staff players army, instead of WHY they don't have 4000 points of professionally painted models; unlike multiple other factions.

Oh wait, Orks having been around since Rogue Trader days or anything... I keep forgetting they're such a new army.

Could be that they cheaped out the entire army and is now half the value it used to be.

If they're using the new codex internally, perhaps; but this wasn't at that time - they would have been using the Index, since it was for the Adepticon tournament; the overpriced, underpowered, index...

My local Ork community is still there. They're just waiting (im)patiently for their Codex.

Yeah ork players ARE out there. Hell I met one today at my FLGS (He was there to play Malifaeux though). People like to switch to the SHINY AND NEW and play with it a while until they get bored, I am sure a lot of ork players are just taking a break until the new codex comes out.

I saw the same thing in 5th edition the first time I started playing 40k. I was the only CSM player in my FLGS, everyone else was playing Space Wolves and Grey Knights. More CSM players started showing back up after the 6th Edition codex came out.

I know some of you guys are getting impatient and anxious, but the new codecies are coming, and hey, at least you folks don't need to wait until next year like Sisters do.

Well, let's be honest...why would GW even have a studio army for the most part? Do they do White Dwarf battle reports any more? Prior to beginning to heavily broadcast via Twitch and Warhammer TV ----- they didn't need massive studio armies. The employees all have their own armies and they just need stuff to snap pictures of.

I love how Ork players think it's some mighty insult that they didn't have a large Ork army painted, sitting on a shelf. They didn't need to have one.

 Elbows wrote:
Well, let's be honest...why would GW even have a studio army for the most part? Do they do White Dwarf battle reports any more? Prior to beginning to heavily broadcast via Twitch and Warhammer TV ----- they didn't need massive studio armies. The employees all have their own armies and they just need stuff to snap pictures of.

I love how Ork players think it's some mighty insult that they didn't have a large Ork army painted, sitting on a shelf. They didn't need to have one.

I imagine they have a studio army, but 4000 points is a LOT, especially for a horde army. I imagine they have a hundred boyz and some other stuff, but the thing is, they might only have 1 of each unit painted up. thats all GW needs in their studio for each model

There's quite a few Ork players in my area. They were my first 40k army and remain one of my largest (admittedly, I have 7 or so). Everyone in my area is just waiting - can't really play Orks against any of the armies with a codex, so nothing really to stimulate conversation or new hobby projects. People usually grow less active with an army when they know a codex is coming - don't want to buy units, make conversions, etc. when you don't know what will and won't be around.

I joined a gaming club recently and aparntly I'm the first and only Ork playernin their like 50 members.


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phydaux wrote:
" GW didn't have 4000 points of Orks, which is why the army wasn't used at Adepticon;

" Story: GW is not playing Orks at Adepticon because - and I quote - "It's genuinely is because the studio Ork army is not 4,000 points! No conspiracy theory here - that's the truth! We do love Orks too... trust us!" "

GW studio could have 4000 points of Orks in an afternoon PROVIDED all you needed was a slop-n-go paint job. Spray paint, some details, base, flock, done.

But to add even 1000 points of Orks painted to studio quality, consistent with the rest of the existing studio Ork army, ready to be photographed and have the photos published in White Dwarf, that's a whole other thing.

Well theybhave had 30 yesrs to do it... 20 if you consider the most up to date Ork range.

Remember, they did have 4k of the other factions like tyranids and ultramarines.

Nope, still here WAAAGHING!!!