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 Fango wrote:

Also, the new campaign rules are locked behind this limited release box, the Book of Ruin does not contain the new campaign rules, just a few follow-on/thematically related scenarios...

I don't know about this part. Going off this:
Book of Ruin wrote:The book also includes six alternate Uprising Campaigns and a whole suite of arbitrator tools to help with the running of a campaign and ways of enhancing individual scenarios.

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The missions are in Book of Ruin and Dark Uprising. It looks like the only difference is that they're not 'curated' like they are for Dark Uprising?
There's 25 pages of 'Campaign' stuff in Dark Uprising under "Dark Uprising Campaign" versus 4 pages in Book of Ruin...would that be about the difference for explanatory stuff in a starter set?
   
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As someone that owns a good 3d printer, it would take you at least a week of solid printing to get a low quality approximation of all the terrain in this set and likely 4 or 5 spools of filament, each spool coating about 20-40 dollars depending on the printer. It would take a month of swapping out parts, getting them off the build plates, queuing up new parts, and still would end up costing over a hundred dollars plus the cost of the printer.

And you'll still see lines and steps on the final print, unless you go resin, which will take even longer, require more set up and tear down, and be much more brittle.

I cant wait for GW to release the terrain sets separately and see the sudden rush to buy the box set for the terrain deal alone.
   
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that's a solid game, but why did they have to make a whole new one over it? Great batch of new stuff, but as a holiday, its going to be tight belts and ramyon crafted into Christmas this year...

Still not a fan of the price!


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Has there been any word on the additional figures for the three books yet, or the Juve mini's?

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Looking at the NZ peorders, I note the Underhive box also remains available for the moment. Also, the Dark Uprising box is indeed nearly three times the price of Underhive - ouch!

On the upside, they now finally offer generic Necromunda dice as a separate product! https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Necromunda-Dice-Set-2019

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Fango wrote:

Also, the new campaign rules are locked behind this limited release box, the Book of Ruin does not contain the new campaign rules, just a few follow-on/thematically related scenarios...

I don't know about this part. Going off this:
Book of Ruin wrote:The book also includes six alternate Uprising Campaigns and a whole suite of arbitrator tools to help with the running of a campaign and ways of enhancing individual scenarios.

Spoiler:

vs
Spoiler:


The missions are in Book of Ruin and Dark Uprising. It looks like the only difference is that they're not 'curated' like they are for Dark Uprising?
There's 25 pages of 'Campaign' stuff in Dark Uprising under "Dark Uprising Campaign" versus 4 pages in Book of Ruin...would that be about the difference for explanatory stuff in a starter set?


Yeah, looks like the scenarios/missions are duplicated, but the main uprising campaign rules aren't there...and then there's supplemental campaign stuff (alternate ways to run the one in the big box), and some arbitrator stuff in the book of ruin. These books were designed (in my understanding) to work together...book of ruin supplementing the uprising book.

My problem is I don't want to buy the rules for a THIRD time...I get they have to be in there because it's being sold as a starter....It just bothers me that there is a paywall to get the campaign rules....maybe its just the principle of the thing I have a problem with.

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Still really torn on this one as want the scenery to add more variation to my existing pile of Necromunda scenery and interested in the Enforcers and cultists so was planning on two sets and have already complete enough extra overtime to offset the cost. However, the price is still off putting but I can see why it costs that much due to the large number of terrain sprues which unfortunately does not create a large amount of terrain due to how boxy it is. It’s not as if I don’t already have five years worth of miniature painting backlog.
   
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Aeneades wrote:
... It’s not as if I don’t already have five years worth of miniature painting backlog.




I feel you, I REALLY want this terrain, and kinda want the two gangs (don't have any enforcers yet), and I want the campaign rules....I just can't drop that kinda money on this this time of year and expect to stay happily married. If it was just me, Id would live on Ramen for a month to make up for it...but then again, I've been in this hobby for about 30 years...and if I stopped buying now, my backlog still wouldn't get finished before I died...might be time to start culling the herd...maybe then I can justify this expense.

   
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The 5 year backlog was on the basis I actually somehow find the time to actually paint but given that I have painted 13 models so far this year my backlog is actually at around 300 years. I think it’s time to start selling off a few bits for space and my sanity...

November is one of the best months for me to actually buy stuff as it’s the only time of year I get overtime. Even if it was only 15% cheaper it would have been a much easier decision.
   
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Yeah, the sticker shock on this really is significant. I see a number of posters noting that if you add up all the components it seems like a ‘good deal’. However the real test for me is the comparison (using UK £ equivalent) in NZ pricing:

Necromunda core set = £90
Dark Uprising = £290

Given both have rules, counters etc, an extra 10 minis and half a board of terrain doesn’t feel like an extra £200 of value to me.

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Right behind you.

 Fango wrote:

Yeah, looks like the scenarios/missions are duplicated, but the main uprising campaign rules aren't there...and then there's supplemental campaign stuff (alternate ways to run the one in the big box), and some arbitrator stuff in the book of ruin. These books were designed (in my understanding) to work together...book of ruin supplementing the uprising book.

My problem is I don't want to buy the rules for a THIRD time...I get they have to be in there because it's being sold as a starter....It just bothers me that there is a paywall to get the campaign rules....maybe its just the principle of the thing I have a problem with.

It looks like the stuff has a possibility of being present in The Book of Ruins under "Uprising Campaign Events".

I really don't know one way or the other, just looking at page counts for comparison. It really does look like a big chunk of Dark Uprising's stuff might just be an intro to running campaigns.

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Jesus fething Christ it's worse than I thought. AUD$490. Four-ninety.

And in Kiwiland it's even worse, as they're paying NZ$578, which is AUD$533. Have fun paying +AUD$43 for... no reason!

Have they lost their God-Damned minds?

Man, suddenly AUD$175 + shipping doesn't seem quite so bad.

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I have ordered four sets, was gonna just order two but I heard on the grapevine it's limited run like warcry was
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Yes, I think the big problem here is that the terrain was designed in such a way that it takes a very large number of big sprues to make a relatively small amount of very blocky and fairly uninteresting terrain. The same number of sprues of other terrain sets for that price would probably seem pretty good, but the resulting terrain would look a lot better and more useful.
   
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I dropped by my local GW and had a talk with the manager about the set when no one else was in the store. He basically acknowledged that Blood of The Phoenix and this Necromunda set are hard to justify price wise.

Also said as much as he could to confirm that the ZM stuff will be available separately early next year and that the Necromunda set will be a limited run like the Adeptus Titanicus set. That said, he did not want expect the Necromunda set to move quickly like the AT set did.

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Wow, did he also say plastic Sisters were coming too?
   
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The new dice are nice looking (and probably have the best contrast of any of the supplemental dice released since the yellow + black sets in the first starter).
   
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 Alpharius wrote:


And that's only *if* you actually want everything that's in there...


Duh no kidding stating the obvious. Gw discount boxes have always been discount boxes if you want all. Those who don't gets to buy just terrain for say 90% of this. No surprise there. That was known before anything was revealed about the box

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I made these for anyone looking for some propaganda to print off for their necromunda terrian

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-52617-62067_Delicious%20Ambull.html

All i did was make a cleaned up version of the logos and graphics from the regimental standard article. I made these for myself but figured it would be fun to put them out there for other people.

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I'll skip the box, there's way too much stuff in it I don't need. But hopefully there's some boxes next year that are just stacks of bulkheads and walls with nothing superfluous like the pipes sprues in it.
   
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The terrain looks amazing yet a bit… boring the more you look at it. Besides I imagine necromunda terrain quite diferent. I think from all this release the only thing tempting me is the floor tiles since those are a pain to scratchbuilt without too many hours and sweat involved.

So its 4 in a box for 40gbp correct? whats the size?

   
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You know... the more I look at the retail box images, the more they remind me to another game: The old Mantic's Deadzone starter. Only that came with a neoprene mat, of course, and costed about 60 euros...
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
You know... the more I look at the retail box images, the more they remind me to another game: The old Mantic's Deadzone starter. Only that came with a neoprene mat, of course, and costed about 60 euros...


yes yes, just like that. 2 raindrop.
   
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 NAVARRO wrote:
The terrain looks amazing yet a bit… boring the more you look at it. Besides I imagine necromunda terrain quite diferent. I think from all this release the only thing tempting me is the floor tiles since those are a pain to scratchbuilt without too many hours and sweat involved.

So its 4 in a box for 40gbp correct? whats the size?


I believe each is 1’ square, so I think you’ll need...erm.....maths is hard hungover.....6 for 6x4 board.

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The tiles set is very disappointing, seeing as it's four copies of the same tile. 16 of them for a full 4'x4' table will get stale, fast, not even taking into account the fact that they will cost €220 by their lonesome.

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Plus they will clatter like mad when you roll dice on them, things will slide on them. They just sound like an awful buy as a flat gaming surface.

If they're the same thickness as the Sector Mechanicus walkways though... different story.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR3ujE_m74

Video from GW about it. Seems the thickness of Sector Mechanicus was taken into account.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Plus they will clatter like mad when you roll dice on them, things will slide on them. They just sound like an awful buy as a flat gaming surface.

If they're the same thickness as the Sector Mechanicus walkways though... different story.

I have to be honest... they don't look like such a great idea, TBH. There's a reason why neoprene mats are a thing, nowadays. Plus, you buy to boxes of Necromunda: Underhive, you have enough cardboard tiles for a full table, for €10 less, and you also get two 20-man gangs, two sets of dice, two rulebooks...

Looks like a deal to me.

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I see that this is 160euros free shipping to Netherlands...
getting closer...

   
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 jeff white wrote:
I see that this is 160euros free shipping to Netherlands...
getting closer...

Where did you find such a deal?

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