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2018/08/26 14:57:51
Subject: What is the strength of sammael
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Dakka Veteran
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His weapons profile says strength +1 ap -3 damage 2 and in abilities it says 'this weapon has strength x2 if sammael charged'.
So is his strength 9 on the charge (weapon gives x2 strength on the charge and the +1) is it strength 10 Weapon gives +1 strength and then x2 on charge or is it strength 8 as in he only gets the x2 strength.
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2018/08/26 15:15:59
Subject: Re:What is the strength of sammael
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Read the FAQs.
Designers commentary :
Q: If a rule modifies a model’s Strength
characteristic, and that model is equipped
with a melee weapon that also has a
modifier (e.g. ‘x2’), could you explain
the order in which the modifiers are
applied to the characteristics and the
weapon’s Strength?
A: First you must determine the model’s
current Strength characteristic. To do so
apply all modifiers to it that multiply or
divide the value, then apply any that add
or subtract to it. Having done this, you
then modify this value as described by the
weapon’s Strength characteristic.
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2018/08/26 15:23:37
Subject: Re:What is the strength of sammael
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Dakka Veteran
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 p5freak wrote:Read the FAQs.
Designers commentary :
Q: If a rule modifies a model’s Strength
characteristic, and that model is equipped
with a melee weapon that also has a
modifier (e.g. ‘x2’), could you explain
the order in which the modifiers are
applied to the characteristics and the
weapon’s Strength?
A: First you must determine the model’s
current Strength characteristic. To do so
apply all modifiers to it that multiply or
divide the value, then apply any that add
or subtract to it. Having done this, you
then modify this value as described by the
weapon’s Strength characteristic.
Ok so we apply the multiplication first so he gets x2 so becomes strength 8 then we apply the add so he become strength 9. Is that correct?
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2018/08/26 15:29:29
Subject: What is the strength of sammael
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Norn Queen
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No, he is only S: x2 on the charge. This is instead of being S: +1
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2018/08/26 15:32:56
Subject: What is the strength of sammael
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Dakka Veteran
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ok so the stre x2 replaces the str +1?
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2018/08/26 15:34:35
Subject: What is the strength of sammael
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Confessor Of Sins
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I agree with BCB. It has Sx2 when charging, which would replace the S+1 that is normally there.
If it said "Double the Strength of his attacks the turn he charges", then it would stack on his S+1 to 10.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/08/26 19:22:48
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2018/08/26 16:37:23
Subject: What is the strength of sammael
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Agreed. It replaces.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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