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Someone said yesterday at a game pistols can't be used to fire Overwatch, but later I couldn't find anything that said they couldn't.

Also, when the Kharybdis gets charged, if it can use the Pistol weapon called thruster jets for overwatch, does it go full blast affecting all units within 6" like the rules for that weapon says?

Pistols can be used to fire Overwatch.

Maybe the person you played thought that pistols can only be fired in close combat? I mean, that's not true either, but yes, pistols can be used to fire whenever any other weapon can, including overwatch.

Regarding the Kharybdis, I'd say that, yes, it still hits all units within 8". That's the way it's worded.

Nice! That thing is pretty awesome.

Also that really makes me want to try out my big unit of Flamers of Tzeentch next time too

That's got to be one of the most... let's say "interesting" "mistakes" someone has made.

To reinforce what the Kap'n said, there is nothing preventing Pistols being fired in overwatch other than the same things that would prevent any other weapon, range and/or a special rule saying you can't fire that specific weapon.

The only weapons you can't fire in Overwatch are Macro weapons and ones which specifically state you can't.

In the last game you play, we got similar issue, but by reading the rules we understood that pistol can not be used in overwatch, as this is the rule in itself
I quote:

3. Overwatch
Each time a charge is declared against a unit, the target unit
can immediately fire Overwatch at the would-be attacker.
A target unit can potentially fire Overwatch several
times a turn, though it cannot fire if there are any enemy
models within 1" of it. Overwatch is resolved like a normal
shooting attack (albeit one resolved in the enemy’s Charge
phase) and uses all the normal rules except that a 6 is
always required for a successful hit roll, irrespective of the
firing model’s Ballistic Skill or any modifiers.

for what it says there, it's a shooting phase in which you apply the same shooting rules, except that you only hit 6+ and it is used in the enemy assault phase

did i get it wrong?

I don't see how you say pistols can not be used in overwatch, as pisotls are normally fired in the shooting phase, not the fight phase. Pistols would be covered by the "uses all the normal rules except that a 7 is always required" bit. They'd be just another choice of a shooting attack; you could fire pistols or you could fire other ranged weapons.

Also, itt's a shooting attack you make during the enemy's charge phase. It's not a shooting phase itself; stratagems that specify the shooting phase could not be used during Overwatch.

sorry, I expressed poorly, what I was referring to is to use both pistols and other weapons at the same time in overwatch

No problem. what you state here is correct- you can choose to use pistols or choose to use other weapons, but one model could not do both during Overwatch.

If you are charged by a unit that is your closest enemy unit, could you overwatch with pistols even if you are within 1" of another enemy unit?

torblind wrote:
If you are charged by a unit that is your closest enemy unit, could you overwatch with pistols even if you are within 1" of another enemy unit?

No, because a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit cannot fire Overwatch, period. BRB, Page 182, 4. Charge Phase, 3. Overwatch, Sentence 2.

Yeah the sentence quoted above, though shooting itself is prohibited in CC then allowed for pistols. But not like this then?

torblind wrote:
Yeah the sentence quoted above, though shooting itself is prohibited in CC then allowed for pistols. But not like this then?

Right, the Pistol rule doesn't override the 'no Overwatch if already within 1"' rule. Also note that the Pistol rule only lets them fire at the unit they're within 1" of if they're inside an inch, and since overwatch happens before the charge move puts them within 1", that would rule out overwatching as well.

Medicinal Carrots wrote:

torblind wrote:
Yeah the sentence quoted above, though shooting itself is prohibited in CC then allowed for pistols. But not like this then?

Right, the Pistol rule doesn't override the 'no Overwatch if already within 1"' rule. Also note that the Pistol rule only lets them fire at the unit they're within 1" of if they're inside an inch, and since overwatch happens before the charge move puts them within 1", that would rule out overwatching as well.

Not quite, a sizable unit in CC could very well have models closer to other units than those they're in CC with, not to uncommon that, a grizzly Ork boy daisy chain all the way back to ghazkhul and s pson boy bring the most glaring example