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The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

It so you can use one for a Successor Chapter. Or perhaps your dark angels are from M34. Or maybe they are from M45 when Belial is long dead. Just because Belial is Master of the first company in M41 doesn't mean he was ALWAYS the Master of the first company.

But clearly "it makes no sense", because YOU personally didn't realise it.

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 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

Masters ands members of the inner circle have the clout to wear green or bone armour or a mix and personal heraldry. It’s up to u. As above he could be master of any of the companies just in terminator armour. Or you could write it that helical is dead and this is his replacement. It’s your army. Do what you like.


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 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

It so you can use one for a Successor Chapter. Or perhaps your dark angels are from M34. Or maybe they are from M45 when Belial is long dead. Just because Belial is Master of the first company in M41 doesn't mean he was ALWAYS the Master of the first company.

But clearly "it makes no sense", because YOU personally didn't realise it.

No need to be rude. No such thing as a stupid question. Why reply if I are just going to be disrespectful and unhelpful.

It’s his schtick, unfortunately.

Yeah. The Master could be of any Company just rocking the TDA to be a badass. Or from another time. Or because the DA are secret as heck and might have secret extra companies of Deathwing... no one really knows!

Okay well, I plan on running a Terminator Master in the company of Belial. The Terminator Master will be warlord, it just doesn't seem right though.

 Mk X wrote:
Okay well, I plan on running a Terminator Master in the company of Belial. The Terminator Master will be warlord, it just doesn't seem right though.

He is a master of another company, so of equal rank if not prestige. And if most of the army is from his company (ie. non Deathwing or Ravenwing marines) then it makes sense for him to have the overall command.

I won't worry too much, because since they added scout on bike or veteran without terminator armour fluff for DA is going down the toilet

 Crimson wrote:

 Mk X wrote:
Okay well, I plan on running a Terminator Master in the company of Belial. The Terminator Master will be warlord, it just doesn't seem right though.

He is a master of another company, so of equal rank if not prestige. And if most of the army is from his company (ie. non Deathwing or Ravenwing marines) then it makes sense for him to have the overall command.

Makes sense, you made me think back to the structure and relationships of the Luna Wolves' Mournival. I'm now comfortable making the warlord a master in power armour instead.


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It bugs me that the Power Armour Master doesn't have the key
words Deathwing and Inner Circle like the Master in Terminator
armour does.

 Cybtroll wrote:
I won't worry too much, because since they added scout on bike or veteran without terminator armour fluff for DA is going down the toilet

You mean the Company Veterans that have been a part of dark angel organization for over a decade and a half?

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Cybtroll wrote:
I won't worry too much, because since they added scout on bike or veteran without terminator armour fluff for DA is going down the toilet

You mean the Company Veterans that have been a part of dark angel organization for over a decade and a half?

Not sure why anyone would think the dark angels wouldn't have veterans just because their first company is ordered differantly. in fact it makes it MORE likely. Long term vets who where deemed a "bad idea" to let in on the full secret have to exist and they have to be somewhere. with no "vetern first company" that means they'll have to keep the vets in their other companies,

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 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

Masters ands members of the inner circle have the clout to wear green or bone armour or a mix and personal heraldry. It’s up to u. As above he could be master of any of the companies just in terminator armour. Or you could write it that helical is dead and this is his replacement. It’s your army. Do what you like.


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 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

It so you can use one for a Successor Chapter. Or perhaps your dark angels are from M34. Or maybe they are from M45 when Belial is long dead. Just because Belial is Master of the first company in M41 doesn't mean he was ALWAYS the Master of the first company.

But clearly "it makes no sense", because YOU personally didn't realise it.

No need to be rude. No such thing as a stupid question. Why reply if I are just going to be disrespectful and unhelpful.

I don’t believe he was trying to be rude, but rather he meant the definition of “realize” which means “to bring into being.”

Occam’s Razor and his post history disagree with you. ;-)

Are there any DA terminators outside of the Deathwing?

 Manchu wrote:
Are there any DA terminators outside of the Deathwing?

No. So any Master trained to use it must have been promoted to the Deathwing at some point. That's what the ordinary Terminator Master represents: a Company Master with Terminator Honours exercising his right to don a suit of Terminator armour.

The change to Masters not necessarily advancing via the Deathwing is new to this edition - hence the stratagem for promoting them - and ties in with the idea that few of the Primaris marines assigned to Unforgiven Chapters have been accepted into the Inner Circle yet. Evidently they've been forced to relax some of the criteria for command positions out of expedience.

Right so, no DA terminator armor should ever be painted green.

 Manchu wrote:
Right so, no DA terminator armor should ever be painted green.

Well. It is probably up to the individual Master whether they want their terminator armour in Deathwing colour or in colours of their own company. I'd probably paint such an character green to clearly distingguish them from the Master of Deathwing. Note that specialists such as Chaplains and Librarians tend to retain their armour colours when wearing terminator armour, even though being Deathwing.

 Cybtroll wrote:
I won't worry too much, because since they added scout on bike or veteran without terminator armour fluff for DA is going down the toilet

TDA are reserved for veterans that have been promoted to the ranls of deathwing company. There's nothing preventing the army to have vetetans that has yet to be promoted to deathwing, so your point is moot.

 Manchu wrote:
Right so, no DA terminator armor should ever be painted green.

No. Deathwing has no standardized colors and only the Dark Angels make a point of painting their armor bone. The original color was black. Everybody uses whatever they want.

I was only referring to DA.

 Mk X wrote:
The Dark Angel's Master in terminator armour has the Deathwing key word and the Inner Circle rule but Belial is the 1st company's Master. What company is this guy Master of? His terminator armour would be bone white right or would it possibly be green?

Its for successor chapters.