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Swansea

I confess I haven;t read much on the Dark Imperium just caught the clip notes that Primaris were under construction for 10k years as a directive from the Girlyman to mech master Belly Crawl and now the king has returned the Primaris have been released to chapters as reinforcements, this is the sum total of my Dark Imperum Lore knowledge, I am ok with this... furious retconning.

From a model perspective however when compared to a regular human model Genestealer cultist for example they look bang on as a massive super soldier. My issue is I know have a squad of 10 intercessors (Thank you warhammer conquest) ad I thought I would add them to my small DW army (Just veteran 2 kill teams atm) but by comparison they make the standard veteran marines look.... um a little... off kilter? So i'm wondering ow others have dealt with it, Hope it grows on you? or just start a full Primaris SM army?

I ask because I'm going to be doing a slow grow league soon with a few new players and I'm wondering whether to double down on a mixed DW army or start full Primaris SM Army...

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DW Primaris are strong, for a start. You can make a good army heavily based on Primaris.

Personally, I've dealt with the situation by going full Primaris (playing Dark Angels). I love the look of the new scale marines, and I just can't go back now!

I've converted Primaris scale models for some units. I have a Primaris scale Azrael, 3 Company Champions, and a Tech Marine.
   
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They look better to me, but not because they are taller, but because they are more in proportion with themselves. GW talked themselves into a hole, they couldn't make new models in proportion but smaller than the old ones (well narrower mostly) so they went larger.

They do look decent, they are ok in a mixed army as GW have (sensibly) kept them in their own squads and made those squads slightly different.

long term, they quite obviously want full Primaris armies, hell they sell models why wouldn't they want that?

given the chaos models have not (yet) had this treatment, and with all the new Death Guard stuff I doubt they will soon the older vehicles will stay in production for a while, and since they have the tooling I'd expect the older marine models to only be phased out as the tooling finally dies.

"your milage may vary" really, if you like them go for them, if you don't don't, they don't (to me) look good right next to each other.

I also think the fluff is a bit silly, but when the alternative is "well they were there all along, you just didn't see them" or "the marine inside is the same side as before, just the armour is bigger"
   
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East of England

If you cannae stand the scale comparison (and I sure as potatoes can't) then the only way open to you is conversion.

The good news is, you can chop a primaris just above the belt & buckle and plonk a standard marine torso on top of the legs. This gives you nice n' easy truscale marines to play alongside your primaris.
   
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I deal with it by not playing Primaris Marines (although I have painted some Intercessors and Rievers). Having said that I do keep getting tempted by Aggressors. The height difference is accurate to the fluff but as with everything on here, the choice is down to personal preference.

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I agree, the models looks much better. If I compare them to my "normal" marines, I am near to cry. But them you play with them, small squad wirh long range grenades. They do well, but for the points they cost I feel they are not complete.

But I generally like them. I enjoy a lot painting them, really a lot. ATM I only have 10 intercessor, 5 hellblasters and 3 Inceptors.

Now I have primed and ready to paint 5 reivers and 3 agressor. The reivers I am sure I will use them, the agressors not sure.

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your mind

I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.


   
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I'll quit 40k before giving GW one penny for any Primaris models. With how many interesting ways they could have taken the story and how many other model lines need love, releasing marines BUT BETTER IN EVERY WAY leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
   
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Sort of helped here is had to be said that my "normal" marines were all painted some time back, with the older GW paint range, and I've not found a decent match for the colours (forgotten which ones anyway), so adapted it slightly for the newer models which will likely be a mostly Primaris army (currently working on some Terminators and there is a box of scouts and bikes around here somewhere)

so the decision not to run these alongside my older marines was semi forced:

- they will be a slightly different colour, and my painting has moved on in the 8-9 years since they were painted
- they are in a box "somewhere" and I can't find them
- there were never very many of them anyway
   
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 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?
   
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Stux wrote:
 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?


No, I assume that he's like me. The only way I can punish GW for making what I consider is a bad decision is to vote with my wallet and not buy any of the new marines.
   
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Honestly, primaris made me fall in love with 40k modelling again. These are the marines I wished I'd have fifteen years ago. I love the models, I can head-canon the lore. There's no way I could ever bring myself to buy or play a non-primaris marine army.

So yeah, I picked up the dark imperium set and am building a small death guard army, and 2 marine armies - dark angels and raptors.


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I’ve gone Primarus and I won’t be going back. I can’t even look at an old stubby marine without laughing.
   
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HoundsofDemos wrote:
Stux wrote:
 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?


No, I assume that he's like me. The only way I can punish GW for making what I consider is a bad decision is to vote with my wallet and not buy any of the new marines.


Punish! Wow, harsh.

I mean, fair enough. Just seems a bit over the top a reaction to me personally.
   
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Sweden

I dont use primaris, but if i did i dont think the height diffenrence would bother me. I mostly think of them as marine ogryns anyways.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Stux wrote:
HoundsofDemos wrote:
Stux wrote:
 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?


No, I assume that he's like me. The only way I can punish GW for making what I consider is a bad decision is to vote with my wallet and not buy any of the new marines.


Punish! Wow, harsh.

I mean, fair enough. Just seems a bit over the top a reaction to me personally.


It's not harsh at all. Gw still gets income if he buys other kits.

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 grouchoben wrote:
If you cannae stand the scale comparison (and I sure as potatoes can't) then the only way open to you is conversion.

The good news is, you can chop a primaris just above the belt & buckle and plonk a standard marine torso on top of the legs. This gives you nice n' easy truscale marines to play alongside your primaris.


Assuming your converted marines are head shorter that is.

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Gitdakka wrote:
I dont use primaris, but if i did i dont think the height diffenrence would bother me. I mostly think of them as marine ogryns anyways.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Stux wrote:
HoundsofDemos wrote:
Stux wrote:
 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?


No, I assume that he's like me. The only way I can punish GW for making what I consider is a bad decision is to vote with my wallet and not buy any of the new marines.


Punish! Wow, harsh.

I mean, fair enough. Just seems a bit over the top a reaction to me personally.


It's not harsh at all. Gw still gets income if he buys other kits.


Oh sure, it just seems like disproportionate language to what has actually happened.
   
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Just go full Primaris. The range is a bit limited right now, but they will be expanded in the future. If your minimarines are just two squads at this point, it is not a huge loss. I shelved a full, extensively converted marine army and switched to Primaris.


   
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I’m playing the Celestial Lions, a perfect chapter for the Primarus marines fluff wise. Although I’m not 100% certain of the fluff of the primes themselves, the models are outstanding.
   
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I just hate the look of the primaris. I am not at all a fan of the gravis suits. The fluff I dont like, but thats not a really big deal, especially after the necrons becoming emo space epyptian terminators.
   
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 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



not even sure what this stream of conciousness style post is trying to say beyond "I dislike Primaris Marines"



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Mississippi

I hate the lore for Primaris, but I enjoy the looks of the models.

I'm guessing if one really wanted to, it wouldn't be hard to find 3rd party options that would turn a Primaris squad into a Tactical/Devastator/Whatever model.

I just wish they'd given Gravis stats as if they were Terminators.

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I don't hating Aggressors outside those silly trinkets hanging from their junk. Get rid of that and the Aquila (for me anyway) and the models aren't that bad.

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HoundsofDemos wrote:
I'll quit 40k before giving GW one penny for any Primaris models. With how many interesting ways they could have taken the story and how many other model lines need love, releasing marines BUT BETTER IN EVERY WAY leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


I second that. My SM army is complete and I won´t add stuff that won´t fit the aesthetic of my other models. My local GW gifted me with a free Primaris Tactical dude (Intercessor?) which was fun to paint and now is spending his time in my glass cabinet. But I won´t replace my beloved SM or even CSM army with the obnoxious ´truescale´ stuff. ´Truescale´ is just a scam to get people to collect SM all over again. Nice trap GW but I am too wise to fall for this one. Just think about the proportions of the humble Rhino. Would ten SM fit in? Hell no and I have never encountered a player in twenty years of wargaming that threw a fit about this. So stay healthy and just say no to ´truescale´.
   
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I think most of the Primaris models look great, but no matter how much I look at them, they just look like out of scale Marines to me.

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Stux wrote:
Gitdakka wrote:
I dont use primaris, but if i did i dont think the height diffenrence would bother me. I mostly think of them as marine ogryns anyways.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Stux wrote:
HoundsofDemos wrote:
Stux wrote:
 jeff white wrote:
I will never own one.
Ever.
That is how I deal with it.
Primaris?
But, they came second, or third, or maybe it was fourth?
Sure they look good,
except for the reivers (spelling?),
and the aggressors (slopey shouldered centurion wannabes?),
and the repulsor (repulsive in every way, not to mention a 180 on the established narrative, that the empire is fading i.e. as a parody of the current and ongoing situation in the West, but I digress into how 40k was always a window on our own world, at least before it became about profits 'primarily', hence the name 'primaris' I imagine, because now they have out-skimmed the eldar somehow),
but the way that they were introduced is total garbage,
especially the whole super-friends focal point as if the galaxy is made up of three big dudes and a bunch of supporting characters such that every army has a Cawl, or a Girlyman, or both, while the other has a Mortarian, or a ... you know what I mean.



So would it be fair to say the fluff is the main reason you're against them?

Can you not just use the models (if you do like them, the ones you like), and forge your own narrative?


No, I assume that he's like me. The only way I can punish GW for making what I consider is a bad decision is to vote with my wallet and not buy any of the new marines.


Punish! Wow, harsh.

I mean, fair enough. Just seems a bit over the top a reaction to me personally.


It's not harsh at all. Gw still gets income if he buys other kits.


Oh sure, it just seems like disproportionate language to what has actually happened.


Calm down. It is just exaggeration to drive home a point.
   
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Mississippi

 Strg Alt wrote:
Just think about the proportions of the humble Rhino. Would ten SM fit in? Hell no and I have never encountered a player in twenty years of wargaming that threw a fit about this. So stay healthy and just say no to ´truescale´.


Ten marines wouldn't fit in the ORIGINAL rhino. I'm not even sure 10 marines will fit in the current Rhino.

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I am totally calm just a little surprised I guess
   
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Martel732 wrote:
Grimdark only goes so far and the lost technology thing flies in the face of actual history.


Well bar the times humanity has gone backwards technologically when controlled by repressive theocratic feudal governments?
   
 
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