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After playing a game, someone brought up to me that running two Ethereals is vastly worse than just running Aun'Va. According to him, Aun'Va was incredibly powerful because the two Ethereal Guards could extend the range of the Grand Invocation to far past 6".

The rules for Grand Invocation are written as "In your Movement phase, Aun’Va may invoke up to two elemental powers. All friendly T’AU EMPIRE INFANTRY and BATTLESUIT units within 6" of the model invoking an elemental power gain the relevant benefit until the start of your next turn. A unit can only be affected by the same elemental power once per battle round."

The issue I can see here, is that the beginning mentions Aun'Va. This can either refer to Aun'Va (The Unit) or Aun'Va (The Model). If it was understood that the first part dealt with Aun'Va (The Unit), it would make sense that the Ethereal Guard would also count toward the 6" range. However, if it were referring specifically to Aun'Va (The Model), then the Ethereal Guard would not count toward the 6" range.

I'm interested to hear what take people have, both for RAW and RAI.

Thanks.

Pakman184 wrote:
After playing a game, someone brought up to me that running two Ethereals is vastly worse than just running Aun'Va. According to him, Aun'Va was incredibly powerful because the two Ethereal Guards could extend the range of the Grand Invocation to far past 6".

The rules for Grand Invocation are written as "In your Movement phase, Aun’Va may invoke up to two elemental powers. All friendly T’AU EMPIRE INFANTRY and BATTLESUIT units within 6" of the model invoking an elemental power gain the relevant benefit until the start of your next turn. A unit can only be affected by the same elemental power once per battle round."

The issue I can see here, is that the beginning mentions Aun'Va. This can either refer to Aun'Va (The Unit) or Aun'Va (The Model). If it was understood that the first part dealt with Aun'Va (The Unit), it would make sense that the Ethereal Guard would also count toward the 6" range. However, if it were referring specifically to Aun'Va (The Model), then the Ethereal Guard would not count toward the 6" range.

I'm interested to hear what take people have, both for RAW and RAI.

Thanks.

Highlighted the section of the rule which should answer your question.

That doesn't really answer the problem I'm having.

If the first part refers to Aun'Va as the unit, then all the models within the unit would be Invoking it.

Pakman184 wrote:
That doesn't really answer the problem I'm having.

If the first part refers to Aun'Va as the unit, then all the models within the unit would be Invoking it.

It does answer your question. It shows that the context of the word Aun'Va in the first sentence is referring to a model not a unit.. Otherwise the section I highlighted would say "... within 6" of the unit invoking an elemental power..." if they were indeed saying that it was the unit Aun'Va that invoked the power.

No, it really doesn't.

If the first part implied Aun'VA (The Unit), all of the models in said unit would be Invoking the power. So therefore, each model would have their own 6" bubble.

Perhaps your correct for RAI though, I'll give you that

Pakman184 wrote:
No, it really doesn't.

If the first part implied Aun'VA (The Unit), all of the models in said unit would be Invoking the power. So therefore, each model would have their own 6" bubble.

Perhaps your correct for RAI though, I'll give you that

No, because the first part makes no implication of it being Aun'Va (unit) or Aun'Va (model) so we look at the second part. As I've already pointed out the rule says that it is the MODEL which invokes the power and not the unit. That context tells us that the the mention of Aun'Va in the first section is referring to the MODEL Your interpretation would require that the UNIT invoke the power which clearly shows the your interpretation is not correct. The power is invoked by Aun'Va and the power is invoked by a model. The only way that both of these can be true is the power is invoked by a model named Aun'Va and there is only one model in the unit which qualifies.

Ghaz is right here. It extends from the Aun'Va model only.