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So, I had thought these guys had gone out of business after their last KS because they have almost no web presence, but Basius is back:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/984996675/basius-max?ref=user_menu



They're base mold pads, you just cover your base with GS or other epoxy putty and press them in. I got 2 in their last Kickstarter and I really like them.

You're not alone, I was looking at my pads from the previous KS and was a little concerned that there's almost no basius presence online. Backed this one for one pad

Many of these were in the first KSer so maybe this is a relaunch?

I just sold off most of my base stamps from Happy Sepukku -- just found that I didn't use most of them and it was hard to get an even thickness. I need to get a GSW roller to see if that's better.

I can see the value, but I'm still struggling with £30 each.

They were sold to History Craft, so I think that's part of the reason.

I love the big pads, just wish the edge wasn't raised as it makes it harder to use for large surfaces. But the pad is so big, it isn't an issue for all but the biggest bases (but that's where these would be most useful, imo).

I didn't find it on the KS page, anyone know how big are they?

The first line under About mentions they are 16x16x1.5cm.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Many of these were in the first KSer so maybe this is a relaunch?

I just sold off most of my base stamps from Happy Sepukku -- just found that I didn't use most of them and it was hard to get an even thickness. I need to get a GSW roller to see if that's better.

I use my GSW rollers a lot and have zero complaints. An advantage it has over these stamps is that you don't have to lift the entire thing off the putty at once, risking deformation and tearing, and also that you can do far bigger areas with a roller since you just keep rolling.

I've only tried the Basius pads, but I think a roller would likely address most of the problems I had with them, and also be easier to get a good result with (and likely cheaper!). So I think this is a pass for me...

Great concept, $40 each is just too spendy for me though. Pass

I have 3 of them from a previous kickstarter and I've never been able to get results I'm happy with... the issue being, as mentioned above, the pulling the clay off the mould process always causes an amount of warping off detail that just doesn't look good. For me Textured rollers have produced superior results.

The price seems pretty high but they appear to be double sided which is not really thaaat bad for two pads of that size (if they are double sided.

but then its still pretty pricey

debating on this. i could really use that forest floor one.

PourSpelur wrote:
Great concept, $40 each is just too spendy for me though. Pass

If you want to try the stamp pad Happy Sepukku has a bunch for like $5. They're not double sided and much smaller (3"x3" I believe) but it's an affordable "I'll give this a try" price.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
I just sold off most of my base stamps from Happy Sepukku -- just found that I didn't use most of them and it was hard to get an even thickness. I need to get a GSW roller to see if that's better.

I use a GSW roller with my Happy Sepuku stamps - works great!

I prefer stamps to rollers. The rollers produce a somewhat skewed image.

I have GSW, basius and happy seppuku stamps and rollers, and they're good at different things:

GSW rollers are great for large areas, and they're versatile enough to use for terrain. some of the rollers have some nice variation to them that you can use to make emblems or setpieces. I have found that they're prone to distortion though, and the hex roller doesn't have regular hexagons on it, which irritates me no end.

Happy Seppuku pads are just great. I use them for most of my bases, they have a huge variety and very consistent results.

Basius pads are good for scenic bases, have a lot of good detail to them, but demolding them without warping is a pain in the ass

Why is it easier to use the Happy Seppuku pads than these - what's different about them / what am I missing there?

Also could someone define what GSW is in this context, it's driving me crazy . "Green Stuff ______" I'm guessing?

Green stuff world. Spanish Company that makes their own hobby supplies that popped up about a year or so ago.

Happy Seppuku pads are the same as these just a lot smaller, especially their newer ones, so they'd just be easer to stamp a base with that's all.

I believe the comment about happy seppuku stamps was that they dont have a lip like these do. it wont interfere when you use the edge parts of the stamp.

and while true i think a good benefit for having the lip is to do plate castings in resin or plaster. its definitely more useful for scenic people though.

also in reference to stamping vs rolling. with stamps you have the option to leave the greenstuff and base on the stamp with a weight to let it fully cure before you pull it to avoid the warping while on the roller you really dont have that option.

Got it, thanks! I see Manchu actually uses both Happy Seppuku stamps and a (presumably blank) GSW roller. But with the lip on the Basius pads, there's no way to use a roller...

I think the lip is by far their biggest drawback, makes the details along the sides and especially the corner basically unusable.

anab0lic wrote:
I have 3 of them from a previous kickstarter and I've never been able to get results I'm happy with... the issue being, as mentioned above, the pulling the clay off the mould process always causes an amount of warping off detail that just doesn't look good. For me Textured rollers have produced superior results.

I found using something like mineral oil (I used vegetable cooking oil) works very well to prevent the sticking and tearing problem. Granted, you have to wash them after they've cured.


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 Desubot wrote:
The price seems pretty high but they appear to be double sided which is not really thaaat bad for two pads of that size (if they are double sided.

but then its still pretty pricey

debating on this. i could really use that forest floor one.

As I said earlier, if you use a lube for it they seem to work ok. Last KS they had for this though was significantly less costly. I think I only paid 40 LBs for three of them.

Edit: Nevermind, I paid 60lbs for three on their last one. Still less than what they're charging now.

RiTides - I use the GSW textureless roller to level out the GS and smooth out any finger prints, etc., before applying the Happy Seppuku stamp. I lay the stamp down onto the table, put some water on both the stamp and the base, then apply the base upside down onto the face of the stamp and use the blunt end of a pen or hobby knife to press the base into the stamp texture. Just wanted to clarify that the GSW roller is not actually used, at least in my case, to apply pressure to the stamp.

 Desubot wrote:
I believe the comment about happy seppuku stamps was that they dont have a lip like these do. it wont interfere when you use the edge parts of the stamp.

and while true i think a good benefit for having the lip is to do plate castings in resin or plaster. its definitely more useful for scenic people though.

also in reference to stamping vs rolling. with stamps you have the option to leave the greenstuff and base on the stamp with a weight to let it fully cure before you pull it to avoid the warping while on the roller you really dont have that option.

I wouldn't recommend this, I tried and it ended up getting stuck to some of the resin which is quite fine and fragile in some places and it ripped off some of the details from the mould.

 Redemption wrote:
The first line under About mentions they are 16x16x1.5cm.

Cheers

The value for the pads is pretty decent if you have a warband or skirmish force that will all need variations of the same basing theme - especially if these are double sided as they appear to be. However, I agree with the comments about usability - I use a lot of round lipped bases and because the green stuff sits in the recess, yet the resin will contact with the plastic lip first, I have found it tricky to get good detail with these pads unless you really pile the green stuff high. However, on flat 25mm bases I have had good results.. you just have to squirt the pad with plenty of water every time you are about to press a base into it.

anab0lic wrote:

 Desubot wrote:
I believe the comment about happy seppuku stamps was that they dont have a lip like these do. it wont interfere when you use the edge parts of the stamp.

and while true i think a good benefit for having the lip is to do plate castings in resin or plaster. its definitely more useful for scenic people though.

also in reference to stamping vs rolling. with stamps you have the option to leave the greenstuff and base on the stamp with a weight to let it fully cure before you pull it to avoid the warping while on the roller you really dont have that option.

I wouldn't recommend this, I tried and it ended up getting stuck to some of the resin which is quite fine and fragile in some places and it ripped off some of the details from the mould.

I did it when I was basing a big commission, years ago - the trick is to spray the mold with water (just a standard spritz bottle, like the ones for misting plants).

Sadly, not my mold - so I will be going in for the Victoriana mold, I think.

The Auld Grump




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Regardless of whether or not anyone here backs this KS - the GSW rollers are awesome, and worth the price - even if you have Basius or Happy Sepuku.

They are my go-to tool - but HS and Basius can make for better deeply textured bases.

The Auld Grump - the cobblestone and wood plank are the most used.