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**Kid_Kyoto**

https://prodosgames.com/blog/the-new-beginning

Dear Warzone Fans,

We have some great and exciting news and some not so great news.

Let's start with the not so great.

Despite our best efforts, we were unable to reach an accord with Cabinet Entertainment (Warzone Licensor) over the design concepts for our planned Kickstarter for Warzone; therefore, Prodos and Cabinet have decided to part ways amicably. Furthermore, and sadly for our entire team and wargaming as a whole, Prodos Games will no longer be continuing the Warzone Ressurection product line. We are deeply saddened that the game that helped to build the foundations for Prodos Games as a company has been withdrawn.

We feel that we have invested considerable efforts into its resurgence over the last five years and had great plans for the future, some of which I have shared with you over the past few weeks.

Prodos Games will support Warzone Resurrection in a non-profit way, by releasing free to download PDF with new or updated rules or providing prizes for WZR tournaments. However, we will not be able to release any new miniatures or products from the Mutant Chronicles Universe going forward.

You still can purchase Warzone Resurrection models from our online store until the 9th of October with a 30% discount, after which, Warzone products will be no longer available for sale from Prodos Games for both retailers/distributors and end clients on our webshop. In the meantime, we are negotiating with Cabinet Entertainment’s potential buyback of all Warzone Resurrection assets, including digital sculpts and rules to secure the future of the unique wargaming system. While it might be hard to be upbeat about this at this time, every challenge presents a new opportunity; therefore we are going to put our experience and skills learned from this venture to good use.

To avoid similar situations with IP, we are working on a brand new wargame IP developed by our team, which we will be producing with a number of our partners, utilizing a plastic injection process. That's right - plastic! We are determined not to allow another company to be able to withdraw support from, not just us, but also you, the fans, and investors into a wargame system.

By creating our unique IP, we can give direction to the design process and make sure that the system is supported for years to come without any exterior issues. Here are some samples of exciting new hard plastic injection miniatures manufactured by our partners. Prodos Games and its partners are proud to announce the development of STARCIDE!

A fast-paced, action, skirmish wargame in 32mm scale, set in a dystopian science-fantasy universe. Starcide reaches between the realms of sci-fi and fantasy with a dazzling variety of factions to select from including:
Legion of the Black Sun (blood-thirsted vampires and Soul-rending necromancers), Empire of Man (Unified Noble Houses of mankind) , Na'vo (cold-blooded reptiles), Prometheans (a human-like Psionic race), and the Locust (deadly insectoids with biotechnological space travel).

There are many other races we would like to incorporate in Starcide, and we hope you will join us for this experience as we want to include the best of your ideas in this game. Please join our Facebook Starcide Group and become part of this exciting new venture into wargaming. The release date for the game is to be confirmed. Also, for those who prefer e-mails, you can sign up to a mailing list below!

Please join our Facebook Starcide Group and become part of this exciting new venture into wargaming.

and just for emphasis:

You still can purchase Warzone Resurrection models from our online store until the 9th of October with a 30% discount, after which, Warzone products will be no longer available for sale from Prodos Games for both retailers/distributors and end clients on our webshop.

https://shop.prodosgames.com/7-warzone

**skarsol**

Wonder if they'll ever comment about Space Crusade again or just pretend it never happened and hope it goes away?

**Red Corsair**

Concept art is really nice, I am really digging the prometheans, that is how the engineers should have always looked in the movie that inspired these.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Right now I'm debating between 'keep to the paint what you have vow' vs 'last chance to get that SWEET TANK'.

I'm thinking tank will win.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

skarsol wrote:
Wonder if they'll ever comment about Space Crusade again or just pretend it never happened and hope it goes away?

What that, that never happened

, nobody pre-ordered anything, certainly nothing that wasn't delivered, probably, and if they did they wouldn't want it now anyway...

besides we're too busy finalising AvP pledges to worry about that now

**highlord tamburlaine**

I see this as a good thing. They deserve every bit of flak they get for AvP and such, but going with their own IP means no more licensing fees or issues, to say the least.

Curious what Cabinet wasn't happy about. I thought they've done a decent job of chugging along and churning out new releases.

The new releases seemed to carry the spirit of the game as well, at least in my opinion.

On the other hand I really liked the Empire of Man stuff I got from them in resin. The lure of plastic versions makes it even more tempting.

Plus, y'know, hitech snakemen and armored werewolves. Can't go wrong with goodies like that.

-also, weren't the Prometheans the enemies in Chronicle X? Nice little cross promotion if that's the case.

**W1ntermute**

Och, c'mon. They killed WZ like two years ago. Basically with 2nd edition. When I'm looking at patch 2.3.2 it makes me laugh. And no plan for releases.

WZ wasn't ideal but was fun, and nostalgic for some people. But looking at 2nd edition I can imagine why they lost the license.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Aztec lizardmen, now in Space. Come on...there must be some untapped original ideas out there.

**highlord tamburlaine**

Please point me to the plethora of aztec space lizards currently on the market.

Seraphon may be just that in the fluff but most models don't reflect that.

All I can think of are Tim Prow's Eru-Kin models, and that isn't the most prolific of lines as of yet...

Plus these are snakes, not lizards.

**Monkeysloth**

Cue Modiphius announcing Mutant Chronicles Miniatures.

**AAN**

Sad news about Warzone… :(
The new IP looks boring to me, weird war Nazis for the 115th time, another Gear Krieg walker clone and the usual aliens… meh.

**Theophony**

AAN wrote:
Sad news about Warzone… :(
The new IP looks boring to me, weird war Nazis for the 115th time, another Gear Krieg walker clone and the usual aliens… meh.

But but but look at the name STARCIDE that’s awesome AWESOME I tell you. And not just because it was developed for free by their 8 year old kid either

, but because it will draw in people who plat Star Saga and Zombicide because it mushes the names together. IT’S LIKE PEANUT BUTTER AND CHOCOLATE!!! OR CHOCOLATE AND PEANUT BUTTER

.

**MinscS2**

Sad about Warzone, guess my Bauhaus will stay on the shelf for a long time.

Prodos can go to hell however. Worst mini-company I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Should have been "Stellarcide".

**Monkeysloth**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Should have been "Stellarcide".

And gone with an 80's early 90's vibe. I'd buy it.

**Chairman Aeon**

Will keep my eye on these...

**JonWebb**

Monkeysloth wrote:
Cue Modiphius announcing Mutant Chronicles Miniatures.

Waaayy too much going on for that sort of thing.

Also, please don't give the boss ideas!

**Kid_Kyoto**

Well the tank won, but that's ALL I'm getting.

https://www.miniaturemarket.com/pic101814.html

It's sad there's so much great stuff out now I only buy it when the game collapses and it's my last chance...

**ingtaer**

I thought that Prodos had already died and gone, the drawings posted above I already have some of those miniatures from a kickstarter run by Archon. I am confused.

**AegisGrimm**

Regardless of anything else, those power armored vampires look pretty good as concept art.

And the Empire of Man is like they figured "screw you and withdrawing the IP for Warzone, we're keeping Bauhaus."

**ingtaer**

Aegis, yeah the Eldar are fairly nice models. I have become more confused, so Archon kickstarted most of these mini lines and got them produced in resin at 28mm (pretty much truescale) and now they are going to release them in HIPS at 32mm?

I will snap some pics later for peoples edification.

**Barzam**

Huh. Well, this will be a good excuse to put all of those Empire of Man molds that they produced for the Kickstarter to use. Those were some nice figures and I do kind of wish I'd backed it. At least this means I'll be able to get some more of those Dark Eldar Wraithguards for myself.

**judgedoug**

oh hey a walking German Hanomag and space Prussians, no one has ever done that before

**ingtaer**

Pics as promised (sorry for the unassembldness) can get pics of the human tanks later if someone request them.

From left to right;
Human officer, cat lady, female storm trooper, random scale marine, male storm trooper, scairp prime and dark eldar lord commander.

**Dark Severance**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
On the other hand I really liked the Empire of Man stuff I got from them in resin. The lure of plastic versions makes it even more tempting.

I wish I got my Empire of Men stuff. :( I'm still waiting for it, unfortunately.

**warboss**

Nice art, mediocre sample models, untrustworthy company. I'll pass.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Link to the Archon Kickstarter. I guess they're partnering or something?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geeksaw/empire-of-men-28mm-sci-fi-miniatures-collection

Seems it still in the middle of fulfilment (originally expected for Feb 2018) and having QC and communication issues.

**Nostromodamus**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Seems it still in the middle of fulfilment (originally expected for Feb 2018) and having QC and communication issues.

Oh, what a surprise...

**ingtaer**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Link to the Archon Kickstarter. I guess they're partnering or something?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geeksaw/empire-of-men-28mm-sci-fi-miniatures-collection

Seems it still in the middle of fulfilment (originally expected for Feb 2018) and having QC and communication issues.

Their comms is gak, their QC is only really affecting the tanks which are a little worse than I would expect from FW but their infantry (at least all that I have) is really good quality.

**highlord tamburlaine**

It's about par the course for their campaigns. No better or worse I'd say than most big(ger) companies on KS.

I've backed most if not all of the Archon related campaigns, and I'm not sure if I'm an outlier or anything, but they've delivered and I haven't had too many issues.

Problems I've had though they've rectified when I contacted them (missing cards and resin figure parts).