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I am thinking about starting Infinity. any tips how I should start (thinking about ariadna, in what are they good?)
   
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Muscat, Oman

I'm in the same boat. I just bought the Haqq/Yu-Jing two-player starter set, and I was very impressed by the introduction rulebook. It takes the form of a campaign with a series of missions. The first mission has both sides playing with just three basic models a side, and introduces just the rules you need for those three models (so the most basic movement and combat rules, I think it's about two or three pages of rules). Then the next mission introduces one new model each side, and starts off with the explanations of the specific rules you need for those new models (Lieutenant rules iirc). The next mission introduces new models with a new rules (Thermoptic Camo etc), and so on.

I haven't had time to actually get started, but it does feel like working through the starter set campaign is a great way to get a handle on the game at a manageable pace.


I know Ariadna has some sort of one-player starter set, but I'm not sure if that works the same way exactly.

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Gathering the Informations.

Darthi wrote:
I am thinking about starting Infinity. any tips how I should start (thinking about ariadna, in what are they good?)

Before making any recommendations, what specifically for Ariadna interests you?

Do you like the Russian side of things, the USARF, the Merovingians, or the Caledonians?
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Darthi wrote:
I am thinking about starting Infinity. any tips how I should start (thinking about ariadna, in what are they good?)

Before making any recommendations, what specifically for Ariadna interests you?

Do you like the Russian side of things, the USARF, the Merovingians, or the Caledonians?

i like the russian and the scotish site. and the werewolfes
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Okay, I can work with this.

The Russian side of things is called the "Tartary Army Corps". They just got a new starter set in the form of Operation Coldfront, which is a hell of a good deal. Note that one item(the "Ratnik" heavy infantry unit) is only available in that 2 player box.

If you don't have anyone else to play with, I highly suggest it.

Caledonian Highlanders is the Scottish side of things. They have a starter available if you want to play them.


Now for the nitty-gritty.
Ariadna's big schtick is their availability of Camouflage units that can deploy in what is called a "marker state". Instead of having the model down, you have a 25mm round base sized token that is placed down until you reveal the model in question.

The exception is USARF but you're not really interested in them so it's all good.

Next up is the terminology:
"Sectorials"(Tartary Army Corps and Caledonian Highlanders are Sectorials) are themed forces that only can take from that specific list.
"Vanilla" is all the items available to that faction(this would be "Ariadna" rather than Tartary Army Corps).

If you really like the Russian side of things, find someone interested in Coldfront's other side(ALEPH's Operations Subsection) and start from there. There is a product coming later this year called "Beyond Coldfront" that helps you grow those two factions out, and there's a few more boxes/blisters that are themed around it as well.
   
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Toronto

Combined is good, but USAriadna isn't bad. Just remember initial investment will be higher since you need a lot of dudes.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Okay, I can work with this.

The Russian side of things is called the "Tartary Army Corps". They just got a new starter set in the form of Operation Coldfront, which is a hell of a good deal. Note that one item(the "Ratnik" heavy infantry unit) is only available in that 2 player box.

If you don't have anyone else to play with, I highly suggest it.

Caledonian Highlanders is the Scottish side of things. They have a starter available if you want to play them.


Now for the nitty-gritty.
Ariadna's big schtick is their availability of Camouflage units that can deploy in what is called a "marker state". Instead of having the model down, you have a 25mm round base sized token that is placed down until you reveal the model in question.

The exception is USARF but you're not really interested in them so it's all good.

Next up is the terminology:
"Sectorials"(Tartary Army Corps and Caledonian Highlanders are Sectorials) are themed forces that only can take from that specific list.
"Vanilla" is all the items available to that faction(this would be "Ariadna" rather than Tartary Army Corps).

If you really like the Russian side of things, find someone interested in Coldfront's other side(ALEPH's Operations Subsection) and start from there. There is a product coming later this year called "Beyond Coldfront" that helps you grow those two factions out, and there's a few more boxes/blisters that are themed around it as well.

thanks could you give me a link to the coldfront box? cant find it on the store site
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Weirdly enough it isn't on their site...I'm guessing it's because they just finished sending out orders from GenCon's preorder period.

This is the webstore I use with Coldfront specifically picked out. I think there's a few in the UK or Europe that should have it which would be cheaper for you but I don't know them offhand. Important note that if you can grab a copy with the Wardriver? Do it! Wardrivers are an Ariadnan centric Hacker unit.

HOWEVER that link does also have the SKU, allowing for you to potentially get your local shop to be able to order it.
SKU: CVB 280020-0730

Sorry I couldn't be more of a help in that regard.

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Camouflaged Zero






The ColdFront box is a great way to jump into the game, especially if you choose the Ariadna side. If you can get it with the exclusive Wardriver mini it's even better.

Last week I received the box and minis are fabulous. Tak forces get the Ratnik mini which is huge, usually such minis don't get into starter boxes.
Highly recommend.

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Creepy Crooligan




Leicester

Hi, was planed to jump into Necromunda, but I'm disappointed, even strong sentiment doesn't help.
Then I noticed that miniatures in Infinity reach new level, and are really cool now.
Line Kazaks and Asura drag me into ColdFront box. Heve fev questions:
I should wait for some: Hallowen, Christmas, Black Friday, Box day sale? Or nothing like that appear on Corvous Belli?
Have tons of Raging Heroes miniatures, Wereshewolves are natural choice for Dog warriors. But not sure about standard human models. Anybody have pictures side by side. Especial Kurganovas with new Infinity minis?
Ow with book I should buy first?

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 Mc Devil wrote:
Hi, was planed to jump into Necromunda, but I'm disappointed, even strong sentiment doesn't help.
Then I noticed that miniatures in Infinity reach new level, and are really cool now.
Line Kazaks and Asura drag me into ColdFront box. Heve fev questions:
I should wait for some: Hallowen, Christmas, Black Friday, Box day sale? Or nothing like that appear on Corvous Belli?
Have tons of Raging Heroes miniatures, Wereshewolves are natural choice for Dog warriors. But not sure about standard human models. Anybody have pictures side by side. Especial Kurganovas with new Infinity minis?
Ow with book I should buy first?


If you want sales go to miniature market or gamenerdz, thats about the best price you will find anywhere.
You don't need any of the books. Get them if you enjoy reading about the fluff and want to see pretty pictures. For the rules, just download the newest version from their website.
   
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Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

Ariadna is a fun faction. We are the faction of dirty tricks, super cheap models, and camo shenanigans.

Its also a great time to start the Ruskies because of the Coldfront box.

In addition to eventually getting the Beyond Coldfront set when it releases, I would pick up the new Spetsnaz set(which contains 3 models), the Tank Hunter set(which would give you 3 Tank Hunter minis with the loadouts to run any of the profiles), the Vet Kazak with HMG, and the new Strelok+K9 antipode.

Spetsnaz have a nasty rule called Ambush Camouflage, which is the same as regular camo except you also get to put out a fake camo token. Combine this with multiple models that can put out mines, and if you've got 5-6 camo tokens in your army your opponent never knows for sure if a token is an actual model, a fake, or possibly a mine.

One thing is that before each game of infinity you are supposed to give your opponent a courtesy list, which is a modified army list which only shows the "open information" about your list. It does NOT include models which have Camouflage or other rules which change what they look like.

So you can make a crazy list like this.

Tartary Army Corps
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

10
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)
SCOUT AP Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 29)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambush Camouflage) HMG / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambush Camouflage) Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 34)
STRELOK (Minelayer) Boarding Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
STRELOK Marksman Rifle T2, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 29)
STRELOK K-9 Submachine Gun, Chain-colt, Antipersonnel Mines + 1 K-9 Antipode / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 24)
K-9 ANTIPODE Trench-hammer, AP CC Weapon. (8)
VASSILY Lieutenant (Forward Observer) T2 Sniper, D-Charges / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (1 | 35)
TANKHUNTER (Chain of Command) AP Rifle, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 30)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open in Infinity Army


Your courtesy list will be completely blank because everything starts in Camo. 14 camo tokens. 2 are fakes and 1 is a mine.

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Creepy Crooligan




Leicester

Thanx Mugaaz and Grey Templar.
About promotions I was more curious do Corvous Belli have some special models in that time.
Strelok+K9 antipode somehow I don't like that miniatures. I prefer others dog units like Col. Voronin, Dog Wariors or Antipode assault squad. They cool to play and with one buy first(with one is more noob friendly)?
Ow and that hammer what holds K9 antipode is same size like Ratnik one? If yes I will be have some idea
Do infinity players are cool with one or two proxy miniatures from different brands?

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Of Veronin, Dog Warriors, and Antipode pack, the Dog Warrior is the easiest to assemble. Yes, the Strelok antipode's hammer is the same as the Ratnik, though with the very generous Proxy rules you could easily use an antipode from the pack with no conversion at all. Vernonin's antipode is completely the wrong size though.

I would recommend getting all 3 of those things eventually too. Veronin is a beast of a Lieutenant, just make sure you have someone with chain of command. Dog Warriors are cheap smoke that also beat face. Antipode packs are a glass cannon fast melee threat that is also good at revealing enemy camo and hidden deployment(sensor).

As a rule, Proxys are allowed in infinity games. However, in official tournaments people only allow for Infinity models to be used as proxys. If you are just playing pickup games it should be fine though.

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
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Creepy Crooligan




Leicester

Thanx Mate for answers, that helps.
I have 2 sweet female werwolfs and now good excuse to paint them and use. I will blue stuff hammer to blend stronger proxy model.
   
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Been Around the Block




If you start with Starter Sets you will probably end up with bunch of models you won't really use (that's how I ended up with bunch of Moderators from Bakunin). If you have the patience I recommend that you spend some time reading Corvus Belli forum, 1d4chan Infinity tactics, random battle reps and spend some time with your local gamers so you get the feeling what you want and then you can use Shae-Konnit Infinity Split Minis (he has a thread here in this forum to minimize the unwanted miniatures and save some money).

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Creepy Crooligan




Leicester

Azhday Im more into models for now,. And I like what I get in starter.
Question do terrain like new "Rampart: Magnetized Modular Terrain for Tabletop" KS. Any good for infinity?
   
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That stuff is fine scale wise. Doesn't really fit the Infinity aesthetic, but thats only a problem if you make it one.

The starter sets all come with some paper buildings and crates so you will get some terrain. Just FYI, the buildings that come with the set. Larger infinity models or box sets come in boxes that are about 2x6x4", the starter set buildings are designed so that those boxes fit exactly inside the paper so you can give the buildings some structure, because without the box inside they are quite flimsy. The starter sets however don't have any of those boxes inside them, so you may want to wait to make those buildings till you get some other sets to assemble them, or make something yourself.

PlastCraft is an officially licensed Infinity terrain creator too. Their stuff is reasonably priced, and some of it is even precolored. Though it does require some assembly.

Corvus Belli also makes and sells the different starter pack paper terrain by itself as well. They're all $8-10 each.

Infinity is one of those games where you will want to spend almost as much on terrain as on the army.

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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
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Muscat, Oman

 Grey Templar wrote:
Just FYI, the buildings that come with the set. Larger infinity models or box sets come in boxes that are about 2x6x4", the starter set buildings are designed so that those boxes fit exactly inside the paper so you can give the buildings some structure, because without the box inside they are quite flimsy. The starter sets however don't have any of those boxes inside them, so you may want to wait to make those buildings till you get some other sets to assemble them, or make something yourself.
I did not know that. That's useful to know, thanks!

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Gargantuan Great Squiggoth





Not where I should be

I have bought the Operation Coldfront set and am well impressed at the mo, not had a game yet but really love the miniatures and really got the bug with reading the books.

Made some terrain, but would like to ask here since you have asked yourself, how big a part does terrain play.

Heres what I have mocked up so far.
Spoiler:





And the figs..
Russians..






The buildings that come in the set are OK, but nothing special, I also laminated all the tokens.




 
   
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Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

That terrain is awesome. Do the levels come apart in that tall building so you can go into the rooms?

Out of any wargame, terrain probably has the most importance in Infinity. It is absolutely vital that there is plenty of places to hide, because this is a "Hug Cover or DIE!" game. Its a "Hug cover and you'll still probably die" game too. The starter set terrain isn't fancy, but its good for filling out a table and that is very important.

As I said above, this is a game where you will spend as much if not more on terrain than you spent on the actual miniatures.

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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
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Beyond the Beltway

 Camkierhi wrote:


Made some terrain, but would like to ask here since you have asked yourself, how big a part does terrain play.
A very, very big part, Cam. Too little and you'll have an unpleasant shooting gallery. Too much and it will be all about the template weapons.

A reasonable start here: https://forum.corvusbelli.com/threads/a-primer-or-table-structure-and-setting-up-the-game.22949/ However, experience is the best teacher. This, and looking at other table set-ups... Poke around the forums, here https://forum.corvusbelli.com/ and the old forums, here http://infinitytheforums.com/forum/ for ideas and such.

Re: Ariadna. Nothing but a bunch of six fingered hillbillies, the lot o' them. Faction trash talking is a thing in Infinity; just keep it in good fun.

 
   
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Executing Exarch





London, UK

Don't mean to hijack the thread but I discovered some old Yu Jing models in the pile of shame and I was wondering how viable/usable they are? (Got them years ago during the first Beasts of War Infinity Week)

I never had a chance to play the game when I first got the models so it'd be starting pretty much fresh. I'd really like to give the game a go but I'm wondering if I need to start a new army as I see that they split the JSA from YJ. I have the following:

3 Zhanshi w/ combi rifle
Domaru w/ boarding shotgun
Celestial Guard w/ combi rifle
Shang Ji w/ combi rifle + light FT
2 Aragoto Senkenbutai
Hsien w/ multi rifle
Oniwaban w/ monofilament ccw

   
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Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

Well the Japanese models aren’t Yu Jing models anymore, but they’re all legal models still.

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
Made in ca
Grumpy Longbeard





Canada

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Don't mean to hijack the thread but I discovered some old Yu Jing models in the pile of shame and I was wondering how viable/usable they are? (Got them years ago during the first Beasts of War Infinity Week)

I never had a chance to play the game when I first got the models so it'd be starting pretty much fresh. I'd really like to give the game a go but I'm wondering if I need to start a new army as I see that they split the JSA from YJ. I have the following:

3 Zhanshi w/ combi rifle
Domaru w/ boarding shotgun
Celestial Guard w/ combi rifle
Shang Ji w/ combi rifle + light FT
2 Aragoto Senkenbutai
Hsien w/ multi rifle
Oniwaban w/ monofilament ccw

You can absolutely use them! Infinity is more about how you play then what, so they'll be fine as long as your list isn't bad.
You may need to proxy the oniwaban as a ninja though.

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