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2019/11/09 12:12:01
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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RogueSangre
West Sussex, UK
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Slinky wrote:Already seems to be sold out at Element Games in the UK.
They still have 124 copies available.
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2019/11/09 12:14:12
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Huge Bone Giant
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Plus they will clatter like mad when you roll dice on them, things will slide on them. They just sound like an awful buy as a flat gaming surface.
If they're the same thickness as the Sector Mechanicus walkways though... different story.
From the webstore's lone side image they don't seem particularly thick and may well be usable as upper floors.
Best thing for me is that they seem generic sci-fi industrial in appearance and look like they can easily be used outside of 40k. That definitely adds value in in my book.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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2019/11/09 12:15:15
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Not sure why you feel the need to be so snarky. Its not like I was passing along inside info, more that even GW staff don't try to pretend the pricing is "a deal".
Also while you may think it would be obvious that the terrain is coming out separately later, we never saw the Sector Fronteris terrain separately and that sold out before most people could buy it.
Just a bit of confirmation people don't need to rush out and buy an overpriced set if they just want the terrain. It will be available separately next year.
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2019/11/09 13:08:51
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ah, weird, when I clicked the link in the e-mail earlier, it said "sold out", must have been a glitch
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2019/11/09 14:04:16
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just ordered a box of Uprising from a UK shop with 20% discount, worth it with all that content imo.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Unboxing by GMG, with a look into the rulebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32N_eohWROo
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2019/11/09 14:08:04
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In dark sphere the box is for £131, but sending to spain is more than £30
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2019/11/09 14:29:10
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The new Uprising campaign is yet another "reskin" of the Dominion campaign, similarly to how Law & Misrule shared many of the same concepts/structures. Looking through some of the sneak peak previews of the rules, looks like it's going to b 3 phases like the other campaigns: 1. Insurrection phase 2. Downtime 3. Damnation phase It will use a new set of territories, similar to Territories/Rackets from existing campaigns. This new territory resource can be "Ruined" during the campaign, giving different rewards. Fighters can gain a new Starvation condition which, if applicable, probably reduces the fighter in some way (reduced actions? reduced stats? miss next battle?). This can be fixed by giving fighters Meat portions. There will be some Scavenging mechanics, possibly a number of D6 rolls rewarded by scenarios. The alternative variants lists additional triumphs, so we will most likely have a new set of triumphs for this campaign too. All in all, looks like much of the same we've seen before, with some new tweaks and contents added on top.
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2019/11/09 14:59:23
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Geifer wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Plus they will clatter like mad when you roll dice on them, things will slide on them. They just sound like an awful buy as a flat gaming surface.
If they're the same thickness as the Sector Mechanicus walkways though... different story.
From the webstore's lone side image they don't seem particularly thick and may well be usable as upper floors.
Best thing for me is that they seem generic sci-fi industrial in appearance and look like they can easily be used outside of 40k. That definitely adds value in in my book.
Good as a starting point for displays, photoshoots, other systems any scale etc…
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2019/11/09 15:18:57
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I'm really happy to know that this includes the Enforcers Tactics Cards.
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2019/11/09 15:30:17
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Charging Wild Rider
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tneva82 wrote: Alpharius wrote:
And that's only *if* you actually want everything that's in there...
Duh no kidding stating the obvious. Gw discount boxes have always been discount boxes if you want all. Those who don't gets to buy just terrain for say 90% of this. No surprise there. That was known before anything was revealed about the box
Well, yes and no. Over the years, starter sets have often been priced in such a way that if you were interested in one of the factions (plus rules an accessories), they're already good value. Amazing value if you split the set, or want both sides anyway. Just like the Start Collecting boxes are/were comparatively so cheap, that if you were interested in just over half the contents, you might as well buy that box because just over half the contents would cost just as much when bought seperately. The real question for this set is what price to calculate for the terrain. I think it's actually not at all bad as far as table coverage goes, but on closer inspection the design of the walls (nice arches) isn't quite what I'd like for the setting. With some but limited interest in the gangs and no need for part 12(?) in the extensive series of Necromunda books (in this edition that is, and not counting WD articles), this box certainly isn't for me, let alone at that price.
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2019/11/09 15:45:45
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Slinky wrote:
Ah, weird, when I clicked the link in the e-mail earlier, it said "sold out", must have been a glitch
Just had a glance out of curiousity and they're down to 71. So someone's buying them.
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2019/11/09 15:58:59
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really happy to know that this includes the Enforcers Tactics Cards.
Are they the same ones as the set sold separately? With Underhive, the gang tactics in the box were different than the Escher and Goliath card packs. If I remember correctly, they only had a few Escher/Goliath gang-specific cards in the box (like 2 or 3, with 15 in the card packs), but I think the Enforcer tactics cards only include 4 Enforcer-specific cards in the first place...
Edit: Underhive has 4 Goliath cards (20 neutral), Goliath pack has 8 cards (12 neutral), and Enforcers have 4 Enforcer-specific tactics (16 neutral). Automatically Appended Next Post: Obispudkenobi said he is getting 4. I wonder how many unique customers they have and how many are whales picking up multiples due to FOMO and desire to immediately fill out a ZM table...
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2019/11/09 16:05:50
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Sqorgar wrote: Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really happy to know that this includes the Enforcers Tactics Cards.
Are they the same ones as the set sold separately? With Underhive, the gang tactics in the box were different than the Escher and Goliath card packs. If I remember correctly, they only had a few Escher/Goliath gang-specific cards in the box (like 2 or 3, with 15 in the card packs), but I think the Enforcer tactics cards only include 4 Enforcer-specific cards in the first place...
Edit: Underhive has 4 Goliath cards (20 neutral), Goliath pack has 8 cards (12 neutral), and Enforcers have 4 Enforcer-specific tactics (16 neutral).
In the video from GMG, they definitely said "ENFORCERS TACTICS" at the bottom. There was a set of Slaughter-Cult and Enforcers cards in one bundle that also had Settlements.
Obispudkenobi said he is getting 4. I wonder how many unique customers they have and how many are whales picking up multiples due to FOMO and desire to immediately fill out a ZM table...
It's not helped by people calling it "limited edition" now. There's going to be the people buying it to split it out at extortionate prices too.
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2019/11/09 16:23:17
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Damn, Aussies get hit pretty hard, i was thinking it would be around 370-380AUD based on similar priced boxsets in GBP and USD
Silly me and the "GW Tax", should have looked at the AT - Grandmaster edition
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2019/11/09 16:29:37
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:
In the video from GMG, they definitely said "ENFORCERS TACTICS" at the bottom. There was a set of Slaughter-Cult and Enforcers cards in one bundle that also had Settlements.
The gang-specific cards all say something like that one the bottom (or gang tactics for the neutral cards). I went and found a list of the 4 Enforcer cards from the separate pack and they are different (or at least, have different names) than the cards in Dark Uprising, so it is unique content.
Dark Uprising
- Lockdown
- Appropriate Force
- Stop and Search
- Shock and Awe
- Excellent Reconnaissance
- Extra Vest
- Ankle Holster
- "Don't Trip"
Enforcer Tactics Card Pack
- Hard Stop
- Preemptive Measures
- Swift Justice
- Informant
It's not helped by people calling it "limited edition" now. There's going to be the people buying it to split it out at extortionate prices too.
The FOMO anxiety is very real in this hobby (spurred on deliberately by GW, who only prints 10 copies of everything people want), mixed with an addiction that requires justifying $290 for something you don't need, well, people are going to think and say whatever they can to make it seem like this box isn't cynical exploitation.
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2019/11/09 16:30:59
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Resentful Grot With a Plan
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Sqorgar wrote: Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really happy to know that this includes the Enforcers Tactics Cards.
Are they the same ones as the set sold separately? With Underhive, the gang tactics in the box were different than the Escher and Goliath card packs. If I remember correctly, they only had a few Escher/Goliath gang-specific cards in the box (like 2 or 3, with 15 in the card packs), but I think the Enforcer tactics cards only include 4 Enforcer-specific cards in the first place...
Edit: Underhive has 4 Goliath cards (20 neutral), Goliath pack has 8 cards (12 neutral), and Enforcers have 4 Enforcer-specific tactics (16 neutral).
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Obispudkenobi said he is getting 4. I wonder how many unique customers they have and how many are whales picking up multiples due to FOMO and desire to immediately fill out a ZM table...
In the GMG video, there are 7 tactics cards each for Enforcers and Corpse Grinders, so looks like Enforcers now have 3 extra cards that weren't released before?
Edit: nevermind, looks like Sqorgar already answered this in more detail while I was writing this post!
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2019/11/09 17:04:52
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Doesn’t seem to be selling all that well from the GW site. First 3000 orders get a free key ring, and they’re still offering them now if you stick Dark Uprising in your cart. No surprise really, I was in for 2 until I saw the price, now I’ve bought none.
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Imperial Soup
2200pts/1750 painted
2800pts/1200 painted
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2019/11/09 17:29:54
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Albertorius wrote:You know... the more I look at the retail box images, the more they remind me to another game: The old Mantic's Deadzone starter. Only that came with a neoprene mat, of course, and costed about 60 euros...
I backed that Kickstarter, got myself a total of 4 mats. Those mats are awesome.
The terrain is good as well, though you never have enough connectors. If you're buying Mantic terrain, get a pack (or 2) of extra connectors.
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2019/11/09 18:06:08
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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I might have to see New Zealand someday,
take some models with me, in boxes, new.
Stand outside the GW store in a trench coat.
With a baby carriage.
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2019/11/09 18:19:36
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Terrifying Doombull
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phillv85 wrote:Doesn’t seem to be selling all that well from the GW site. First 3000 orders get a free key ring, and they’re still offering them now if you stick Dark Uprising in your cart. No surprise really, I was in for 2 until I saw the price, now I’ve bought none.
Yep. I was impressed by the first leaks, but.... I half didn't want to believe the price rumors, but with it right there in the storefront, its just too much absurdity to swallow.
Might buy the bases for a project, though.
jeff white wrote:I might have to see New Zealand someday,
take some models with me, in boxes, new.
Stand outside the GW store in a trench coat.
With a baby carriage.
Not sure that box will fit in a baby carriage!
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2019/11/09 18:22:05
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Well, I decided I wasn't going to pick up the box because of the cost, but did want to start with Necromunda with these gangs.
I found a copy of Underhive on Ebay for 80 USD with free shipping.
Found a couple preorders from the UK for the Enforcers, The Dark Uprising Rulebook and Token Sheet for a combined 80 USD.
Now I'm just waiting for someone to parse up a box on EBAY in the US and put the Corpse Grinders up. It looks like I will end up spending about 200 instead of 290, and while I won't get the terrain (which is fine because I like the tiles and how easy they are to transport), I will have two more gangs ready to play If I decide to pick up the Gangs of the Underhive book.
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2019/11/09 18:36:37
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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John Prins wrote: Albertorius wrote:You know... the more I look at the retail box images, the more they remind me to another game: The old Mantic's Deadzone starter. Only that came with a neoprene mat, of course, and costed about 60 euros...
I backed that Kickstarter, got myself a total of 4 mats. Those mats are awesome.
The terrain is good as well, though you never have enough connectors. If you're buying Mantic terrain, get a pack (or 2) of extra connectors.
Oh, i might have some already
Might as well get back to it and finish painting the damn thing...
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2019/11/09 18:57:37
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
USA
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Albertorius wrote: John Prins wrote: Albertorius wrote:You know... the more I look at the retail box images, the more they remind me to another game: The old Mantic's Deadzone starter. Only that came with a neoprene mat, of course, and costed about 60 euros...
I backed that Kickstarter, got myself a total of 4 mats. Those mats are awesome.
The terrain is good as well, though you never have enough connectors. If you're buying Mantic terrain, get a pack (or 2) of extra connectors.
Oh, i might have some already
Might as well get back to it and finish painting the damn thing...
I must say, that is a mighty fine table.Doesn't look like you need any more terrain!
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2019/11/09 19:13:18
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Second Story Man
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I really was thinking about the Box until I saw the price
And if this is a discounted box, the Terrain will be more expensive on its own, so not really an option for me either
It already looks good without paint (except for the Pringles), so just using tape/stencils (maybe salt) and 2-3 different coloured sprays would be enough
The Ruined City Set from Mantic (90$ /€ on Amazon) looks like a much better deal at the moment to get enough Terrain on the table
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2019/11/09 20:04:46
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Fireknife Shas'el
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kodos wrote:I really was thinking about the Box until I saw the price
And if this is a discounted box, the Terrain will be more expensive on its own, so not really an option for me either
It already looks good without paint (except for the Pringles), so just using tape/stencils (maybe salt) and 2-3 different coloured sprays would be enough
The Ruined City Set from Mantic (90$ /€ on Amazon) looks like a much better deal at the moment to get enough Terrain on the table
Gang Warzone is also available if you don't want ruined buildings. 80 USD direct from Mantic, probably cheaper elsewhere. Ruined City at 90 bucks is amazing.
Note this stuff is both modular and can be disassembled if you don't glue it together.
Edit: Gang Warzone is 43 USD on amazon.com
Edit(2): And then I realized I could order 2 Ruined Cities off Amazon, plus shipping and estimated import fees, for less than the new Necromunda box. I'll be building Mantic terrain over Christmas.
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2019/11/09 20:28:16
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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John Prins wrote: kodos wrote:I really was thinking about the Box until I saw the price
And if this is a discounted box, the Terrain will be more expensive on its own, so not really an option for me either
It already looks good without paint (except for the Pringles), so just using tape/stencils (maybe salt) and 2-3 different coloured sprays would be enough
The Ruined City Set from Mantic (90$ /€ on Amazon) looks like a much better deal at the moment to get enough Terrain on the table
Gang Warzone is also available if you don't want ruined buildings. 80 USD direct from Mantic, probably cheaper elsewhere. Ruined City at 90 bucks is amazing.
Note this stuff is both modular and can be disassembled if you don't glue it together.
Edit: Gang Warzone is 43 USD on amazon.com
Indeed: I've glued some stuff, but a lot is modular, so that I can change the layout of the table, and it works great (although most I've done it so that I don't need connectors for it).
Edit(2): And then I realized I could order 2 Ruined Cities off Amazon, plus shipping and estimated import fees, for less than the new Necromunda box. I'll be building Mantic terrain over Christmas.
I don't really need it... but I kind of wanna. That's a feth ton of very cool scenery, right there.
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2019/11/09 20:46:09
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Albertorius wrote:
I don't really need it... but I kind of wanna. That's a feth ton of very cool scenery, right there.
Each ruined city is going to fill a 2x4' play area pretty easily. If you really want to go vertical it's a lot less, but I didn't go that tall with the stuff I got off the Kickstarter. I prefer discrete buildings over warrens and gantries, so this should basically have me sorted for urban terrain going forward. Now I'm sort of regretting the boxes of Kill Team that I bought, but at least that stuff wasn't as outrageously priced as the Zone Mortalis is.
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2019/11/09 20:49:57
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Yeah.. I think I finished assembling all my Mantic stuff (and i've gone up as much as four floors), but I still have a couple of mechanicus boxes from last christmas specials...
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2019/11/09 21:01:48
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Second Story Man
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John Prins wrote:
Edit: Gang Warzone is 43 USD on amazon.com
Edit(2): And then I realized I could order 2 Ruined Cities off Amazon, plus shipping and estimated import fees, for less than the new Necromunda box. I'll be building Mantic terrain over Christmas.
I have just ordered another Gang War Zone and a Box Red Bricks/Mars Attacks Scenery from Amazon
Albertorius wrote:
Indeed: I've glued some stuff, but a lot is modular, so that I can change the layout of the table, and it works great (although most I've done it so that I don't need connectors for it).
Me too, I have glued some basic elements and use connectors only to combine those on the table
John Prins wrote:
Each ruined city is going to fill a 2x4' play area pretty easily. If you really want to go vertical it's a lot less, but I didn't go that tall with the stuff I got off the Kickstarter.
I have seen a tutorial (not able to find it now) were they used (hard?) foam cubes, pressed some of the more flat walls from the Mantic sets against the side to add the texture and used them as base for the solid lower levels
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2019/11/10 00:29:43
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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With the cards being leaked in the youtube review, we currently have a total of 204 Tactics cards. The total for all cards (of any type) is 386. Anybody want more cards in the future?
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