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I am returning to 40k after a hiatus. That said I played less than 20 games previously. I played Space Wolves and Chaos is all new to me. I intend this to be an all comers list for casual games (I like winning more than losing )but I don't yet really know what I'm doing yet so any feedback is appreciated. The meta where I live is varied, there's lots of players. There are no Chaos Cultists in the World Eaters but I might pick up 40 or so when I find them at a good price. Hellbrutes & Chaos lord are in because they came in Start Collecting boxes but could be changed. The mix of melee weapons for the Berzerkers is an approximation of what will be coming in the box, haven't taken a good look at the sprue pics yet.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [67 PL, 1214pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: World Eaters

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 180pts]: Khorne, Malefic talon, Warlord

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 76pts]: Bolt pistol, Mark of Khorne, Power maul

+ Troops +

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 142pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainaxe
. 3x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 3x Chainaxe
. 4x Chainsword and bolt pistol

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 142pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainaxe
. 3x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 3x Chainaxe
. 4x Chainsword and bolt pistol

Khorne Berzerkers [9 PL, 142pts]: Icon of Wrath
. Berzerker Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainaxe
. 3x Chainaxe and bolt pistol: 3x Chainaxe
. 4x Chainsword and bolt pistol

+ Elites +

Helbrute [7 PL, 130pts]: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Reaper autocannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 130pts]: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Reaper autocannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 87pts]: Combi-bolter, Combi-plasma, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 87pts]: Combi-bolter, Combi-plasma, Mark of Khorne

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 98pts]: Combi-bolter, Combi-plasma, Havoc launcher, Mark of Khorne

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [39 PL, 784pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 111pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh, Power sword

Sorcerer [6 PL, 98pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh

+ Troops +

Noise Marines [6 PL, 121pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 121pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 121pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Bolt pistol, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 212pts]: Combi-flamer, Havoc launcher, Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

++ Total: [106 PL, 1998pts] ++

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A few thoughts I have,

So Hellbrutes aren't in a great place right now, with the exception of Emperor's Children Sonic ones. If you are interested in those, it is in the Forge World FAQ, and gives EC Brutes the option to take 2 Blast Masters instead of the Multi Melta, and they can carapace mount a Doom Siren. Reaper Auto Cannons are a pretty weak main armament, so if you feel confident in your conversion abilities, putting those Brutes alongside your Emperor's Children Detachment and loading up on Blast Masters is the way to go. If you want to keep your Brute's Khornate, you should be aware that Hellbrutes have been errata'd so that a second Fist is only 10 points, also having two close combat weapons gives your Brute an additional attack. So you could run your Brute's with 2 Fists and 2 Combi Bolters and they'll still have some fire support and give you a good amount of hitting power.
As an aside, the real weakness of the Reaper Auto Cannon is that it only causes one wound per pop compared to the Predator Auto Cannon which causes 3, or a regular auto cannon which causes 2. The Reaper Auto Cannon is cheap as chips, and it works okay as a super budget option on a non shooting unit, (like the cheapest gun arm on a Defiler for instance), but its a poor main armamant for a tank. If you don't want to go the sonic route on your Brutes, you are better off taking a twin las cannon, or just going pure melee with double fists.

I would swap the Rhinos down to 2x Combi Bolter (maybe + Havoc Launcher). You *can* run Combi Plasma, but its not good on Rhinos outside of the extended charge gimmick. See, because Rhinos just get regular combi plasma, they have to follow the rules for regular plasma. This means that if they overheat... your Rhino is removed from the table. The gimmick then, is to fill your Rhino with Zerkers, move the rhino up, then fire both parts of the combi plasma at something in rapid fire range (causing the plasma to overheat on a 1 or a 2). If your Rhinos overheat and die, your Berzerkers are forced to disembark, and now they are significantly further up the field and may be able to charge something. Its good for a laff, but aside from that it feels overly gamey. Otherwise if you don't want to blow up your own rhinos to launch longer assaults, I would keep them cheap as possible, and the double combi bolters are a nice touch for a decent amount of fire power per tank. If you don't think trying to self destruct your own Rhinos to extend your charge range is funny, you are better off just keeping them cheap.

If you can, swap the Demon Prince and the Chaos Lord. The Slaanesh Prince gets to cast a psychic power and deny the witch. The chaos spells are really good, and swapping the Prince and the Lord is super easy to do. Also the Slaanesh Relic, the Intoxicating Elixer is one of the absolute best relics for a Daemon Prince. Strenth 8 base is a big boost, and +1 attack is always nice.

That's a good amount of feedback and I appreciate it. Good points, the thing with the prince was a dumb oversight and I will be making that and some other changes.