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So the codex says one bloodletter may take and icon for every 10
one bloodletter may take and instrument for every 10 and 1 in the unit is a "blood reaper"

can i give the "bloodreaper" the instrument and the icon? if no please help explain and show raw.

FuzzayD wrote:
So the codex says one bloodletter may take and icon for every 10
one bloodletter may take and instrument for every 10 and 1 in the unit is a "blood reaper"

can i give the "bloodreaper" the instrument and the icon? if no please help explain and show raw.

You cannot because a Bloodreaper is not a Bloodletter, the same way that an Intercessor Sergeant is not an Intercessor.

What about the fact that the bloodreaper has the bloodletters keyword?
Also even if i cant put them on the blood reaper can i put both an icon and an instrument onto a bloodletter?

FuzzayD wrote:
What about the fact that the bloodreaper has the bloodletters keyword?
Also even if i cant put them on the blood reaper can i put both an icon and an instrument onto a bloodletter?

The rule for Icons and Instruments doesn't say BLOODLETTER, it says Bloodletter. Bloodletter is not a keyword and BLOODLETTER is not a name.

You can put the icon and instrument both on a single bloodletter if you want.

If you want FAQ precedent, the Deathwatch errata (for Intercessors) proves that names matter (e.g. Intercessor Sergeant is not an Intercessor) and the Astra Copywritum errata (for the Ariel Spotter Stratagem) proves that keywords are not name as names.

ok cool thanks ;D

 BaconCatBug wrote:

You can put the icon and instrument both on a single bloodletter if you want.

And just to clarify, you have to pay attention to the wording.
Some datasheets will say:
"1 in 10 X can take Y"
"Another 1 in 10 X can take Z"

or something like that. I don't have the Daemon Codex, but if it is worded in a way that indicates a different Bloodletter can take an instrument, that's your answer

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It says for every ten, one bloodletter can take the item. The book specifically states there is a Bloodreaper and 9 Bloodletters. One of the Bloodletters has to take it. The reaper can’t.

what is the advantage of on the same model vs on two models? When you get down to 1 bloodletter it still has both bonuses?

 deviantduck wrote:
what is the advantage of on the same model vs on two models? When you get down to 1 bloodletter it still has both bonuses?

Pretty much. It also lets you keep both bonuses on the off chance you get taken down to the last model then blink some more back to life via the Morale roll of 1.

I think he was trying to combine 3 bonuses onto one, so the unit keeps all bonuses until the last one dies. You can have the instrument and banner on the same guy. But that guy can't be the Bloodreaper. This way you'll keep all bonuses until the second to last guy dies.

Could you not bring the banner guy, or the bloodreaper back via the morale roll?

The Icon also says slain Bloodletters; doesn't say models. So you can't get the Bloodreaper back. Being as he's the big nasty of the unit, any schmuck infantry guy can grab a horn and spit into it. Not every model is gonna pick up the boss's blade and become badass with extra attacks.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Not every model is gonna pick up the boss's blade and become badass with extra attacks.

Granted, but when models blink back into realspace, it's the same models that were slain. So the BloodReaper should be able to be brought back. But alas that is not how the rule I written.

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 Galef wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Not every model is gonna pick up the boss's blade and become badass with extra attacks.

Granted, but when models blink back into realspace, it's the same models that were slain. So the BloodReaper should be able to be brought back. But alas that is not how the rule I written.

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Not to mention that generally the Bloodreaper would be the last model you remove surely?