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I for one wanted the writer of the unremembered empire to have fully described the events of Guilliman getting drunk on Mjod with the wolves, so unfair to not describe that, would have been hilarious, someone as straight laced as Guilliman standing on a table drunk saying how he should of been warmaster and taking digs at Dorn while the wolves egg him on.

"AND ANOTHER THING...."

The state of Space Marine genitalia.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not my first choice, but I admit that you got me curious.

I would have liked a body charts of aliens, you one that let's you see their internal organs and function. That would have been cool.

Xenology, if you can find a copy, is actually quite good on that front.




I'd like to see more on (1) the 13th Black Crusade and (2) the Indomitus Crusade.

Gathering Storm is a huge deal, Cadia falls, the rift opens, Gulliman reaches Terra, we see the daemonic incursion on Terra in the Custodes novel, and then....... [Cut Scene].....and that's how the Indomitus Crusade ended in Dark Imperium.

The missing scene - how Abbadon's armies went away and Gulliman's crusade - are probably the biggest thing in millenia and it's basically covered in throwaway paragraphs. Even Devastation of Baal is basically a war against the nids which finishes in two chapters "....and suddenly daemons" and "....and then suddenly Gulliman".

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

From the novel The Emperor's Gift

On more than one occasion I’d stood with her and her warband in the communal showers after training, blind and numb to any sensation of desire, watching her wash her hair and listening to her speak of serving in the sweltering jungles of Voroxis, killing heretics who spilled from a downed rogue trader vessel.

Bizarrely, the Khatan had declared, upon seeing me wash myself, that my ascension to knighthood was ‘a great shame’. Captain Castor had explained the meaning to me several months later, though I still didn’t see the humour in it.

So they're, um... built in proportion. ADB with the answers to questions you might not want answering.

I have to wonder about it being explained. Did he ask or did someone just tell him?

Edit I can't believe Space Marines' 'knighthoods' are being discussed

One of the lore entries in the new Ork dex says that Grotsnik captured some live primaris marine samples. Those deathskullz can loot anything but it leaves it hanging right there.

Was also hoping to read more details about the last entry in the previous dex about Orkimedes almost perfecting his tellyport tek to send Ghazzy across the galaxy in an instant. The new dex does mention that sightings of Ghazzy is appearing all over the galaxy but nothing more.

locarno24 wrote:
Xenology, if you can find a copy, is actually quite good on that front.

Isn't it in this book that eldar are shi*ting crystals or something like that?

and the Tau have regular toes, not hooves.

Since I don't think anyone at Black Library is an expert in anatomy, human biology or the like, I'm not sure how much use drawings of an Ork's innards would be - you just get people nit-picking the obvious errors, like they do with the tanks.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not explicit, but in the Novel lukas the trickster, he makes many suggestive remarks about satisfying females, which would suggest not only functioning genetalia, but also active libidos.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not explicit, but in the Novel lukas the trickster, he makes many suggestive remarks about satisfying females, which would suggest not only functioning genetalia, but also active libidos.

That was from before he became a SM though (it's referenced in the 5th ed SW codex where he was first introduced). either he became a SM later than usual or he was a very virile 10 year old.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not explicit, but in the Novel lukas the trickster, he makes many suggestive remarks about satisfying females, which would suggest not only functioning genetalia, but also active libidos.

That was from before he became a SM though (it's referenced in the 5th ed SW codex where he was first introduced). either he became a SM later than usual or he was a very virile 10 year old.

Or whoever wrote it forgot when Marines became marines.
Considering that he didn't give enough of a feth to think of something other than "wolf", that might be the case.

Skalathrax.

Whatever happened to Valdor, even if he's not coming back at least say what he's up to rather than just "I have to go now, my planet needs me..."

*Note: Valdor died on the way back to his home planet.*

 Valkyrie wrote:
Whatever happened to Valdor, even if he's not coming back at least say what he's up to rather than just "I have to go now, my planet needs me..."

*Note: Valdor died on the way back to his home planet.*

No.

Things like these are what are known as "closed doors". They're little hints put there by creators that are never meant to be expanded upon and/or to give the perception that they're thinking about a greater expanded universe in their narrative.

A great past example of this was Garro- in the DG index astartes they gave several ultimate fates of him, including becoming the Lord of the Flies within the EoT to the one we have now. It was left open to the reader to determine what fate you wanted for him. 40k needs mystery keeping in it, not everything needs explaining.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not explicit, but in the Novel lukas the trickster, he makes many suggestive remarks about satisfying females, which would suggest not only functioning genetalia, but also active libidos.

Also he explains how he still finds them attractive but not in the same way he once did.

Would not be surprised if there was a 'flaw' in the Space Wolf gene seed that made them still have it. Should also thrust in the Emperor's Children on what their state of lust is.

A big one is the subject of regular to primaris upgrading.

I would like to see more background in army books (codex & battletome) in general. I like to hear about traditions, daily life, equipment, all sorts of details beyond the function & mentality of certain units. What is the structure of an Obliterator cult? How do Tyranids react to invasions that do not succeed? What is the proceedure for maintaining a Fire Warrior's gear? All sorts of interesting things could be put in there.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The state of Space Marine genitalia.

Not explicit, but in the Novel lukas the trickster, he makes many suggestive remarks about satisfying females, which would suggest not only functioning genetalia, but also active libidos.

That was from before he became a SM though (it's referenced in the 5th ed SW codex where he was first introduced). either he became a SM later than usual or he was a very virile 10 year old.

I'm sure he mentions a female inquisitor?

I thought I remember reading somewhere that being a space marine doesn't necessarily atrophy your... parts... But the psycho-indoctrination kills your libido. Space Marines don't usually have sex, because most of them are so focused on killing the Emperor's enemies and being space marines to WANT to.

The Ciaphas Cain novels touch on this, when Cain muses on one of the female characters attempting to seduce a Space Marine (or so he thinks). In the Gaunt's Ghost novels, one character claims to be the son of a Space Marine... Gaunt thinks it is BS, but he nevertheless says it is certainly possible because the person in question was admitted into the Schola Progenium which is exclusively for the orphaned children of Imperial nobles/officers/heroes. This implies Space Marines are capable of having children.

The first or second HH novel kinda touched on this. I remember a scene with Loken and a Remembrancer, were she was into his body since a marine would essentially be the .01 percent of physically fit and he completely didn't get her mood or hints. I don't think they are completely incapable,(Emperor's Children during the siege) but it just isn't an urge any more.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
The first or second HH novel kinda touched on this. I remember a scene with Loken and a Remembrancer, were she was into his body since a marine would essentially be the .01 percent of physically fit and he completely didn't get her mood or hints. I don't think they are completely incapable,(Emperor's Children during the siege) but it just isn't an urge any more.

Well, on the subject of Loken, the sub-text of the character strongly hints that he is gay. For example, he is completely capable of assessing and appreciating the beauty of fellow Space Marines and male remembrencers, but seems incapable of doing so with women even when the text explicitely describes them as beautiful. Sexual attraction is a strong and common bias in assessing beauty especially in people who "aren't used" to assess the beauty of people.

epronovost wrote:
Well, on the subject of Loken, the sub-text of the character strongly hints that he is gay. For example, he is completely capable of assessing and appreciating the beauty of fellow Space Marines and male remembrencers, but seems incapable of doing so with women even when the text explicitely describes them as beautiful. Sexual attraction is a strong and common bias in assessing beauty especially in people who "aren't used" to assess the beauty of people.

Either way, it just goes to show that Marines are capable of feeling sexual attraction. It is just most likely STRONGLY muted due to the psycho-indoctrination and other factors.

To my knowledge, there is nothing in the lore stating that marines are like ken dolls, or that... parts... simply fall off as part of the gene seed implantation process. In fact quite the opposite, there are hints in the lore that suggest that marines have working "packages", but just don't "use" them very often due to the nature of their occupation, and the aftereffects of the process of becoming a Space Marine.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I for one wanted the writer of the unremembered empire to have fully described the events of Guilliman getting drunk on Mjod with the wolves, so unfair to not describe that, would have been hilarious, someone as straight laced as Guilliman standing on a table drunk saying how he should of been warmaster and taking digs at Dorn while the wolves egg him on.

"AND ANOTHER THING...."

honestly? that's one of those things that I think is proably more entertaining in your head then anything a writer could actually write down. especially as the reality is proably that Gulliman was prudent eneugh to only drink in moderation and thus not get more then a buzz (given Mjold is made for space marines it proably takes a lot of the stuff to make a primarch tipsy)

No particular order:
More on the Daemon battles in Commorragh and how Vect plans on dealing with them
More on the Nids push towards Terra since they are now coming in at right angles to the Galactic plane
More on the DA/Cypher saga
More on the Silent Kings plans for the Nids

w1zard wrote:
I thought I remember reading somewhere that being a space marine doesn't necessarily atrophy your... parts... But the psycho-indoctrination kills your libido. Space Marines don't usually have sex, because most of them are so focused on killing the Emperor's enemies and being space marines to WANT to.

The Ciaphas Cain novels touch on this, when Cain muses on one of the female characters attempting to seduce a Space Marine (or so he thinks). In the Gaunt's Ghost novels, one character claims to be the son of a Space Marine... Gaunt thinks it is BS, but he nevertheless says it is certainly possible because the person in question was admitted into the Schola Progenium which is exclusively for the orphaned children of Imperial nobles/officers/heroes. This implies Space Marines are capable of having children.

They could have gotten someone pregnant before being a space marine which makes much more sense.

They are taken as Adolescents, rather than children. So it's definitely feasible.

Of course, just because Pops was taken away by the Astartes, doesn't mean he didn't die a hideous death in the attempt to become one!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Of course, just because Pops was taken away by the Astartes, doesn't mean he didn't die a hideous death in the attempt to become one!

Ah, the old "plausible acceptability" that the families that supply the Custodes use...

When you're taken as a baby no-one will know what you look like as a superhuman adult. Any of the families can claim parentage to you and say plausibly say they have a son in the ranks of the Custodes.

Human sexuality, across the spectrum, is a matter of degrees. Some people have extremely-high sex drives, some people have extremely-low or no sex drive. Some humans are subject to indoctrination denouncing sexuality and some of them still have a sex drive and have sex.

Why would superhuman sexuality be any different?