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When it comes to the standard Infantry Squad, does anyone bother running them with any Special Weapons in this edition? If so, which one do you prefer to run with and why? And since I plan to field a Mechanized Infantry List, do you think they are worth taking with Squads mounted in Chimera Transports?

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I always take a special weapon on my Infantry Squads.

Generally, I go for a roughly 2:1 ratio of Plasmaguns and Flamers.

I like Plasmaguns to add a bit more punch to the squad's damage. And, whilst I don't think they're particularly good, I like using Flamer squads to screen other stuff, take midfield objectives and basically perform the most dangerous jobs.

If I'm playing Tallarn, I'll usually also take Plasma Pistols on the sergeants (to make up for the lack of heavy weapons).

However, do bear in mind that I use Infantry Guard - so I actually need my Infantry Squads to inflict damage, rather than just generating CPs or screening Manticores from charges.

Infantry squads in Chimeras seem a bit lacklustre to me. I don't they're really worth protecting/transporting - especially in a transport that costs significantly more than the squad itself.

If I was going to use Chimeras, I'd probably opt for Special Weapons Squads.

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Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

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I tend to lascannon or nothing depending if im going to.sit back on an objective or be a screen. i used plasma its ok but the squad is too expensive with that and a heavy weapon and a screen wants to pts efficient. Flamers a weak choice

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Tallarn with plasma and bolter. I like the range bracket similarities. For mech something similar could work, as having the range can be nice. For example, armageddon with all rapid fire weapons gives you nice firepower at 18". I do think that 18" makes them the best at mech and pretty much forces that loadout.

Mech is a bit different than infantry. I've not tried it much, as I'm more of an infantry + tank guy lately, but mech is a very tactical playstyle. It is all about positioning and knowing when to save infantry and when you sacrifice them. Very much play to the objectives, as your fire power is lower but your speed is higher. You can't just rush your army in and hope to kill everything with a good dismount, unless you have local superiority.

A mech brigade with 6 infantry chimeras, backed up by russes and sentinels, is a nice core of a mech force.

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 Trickstick wrote:
Tallarn with plasma and bolter. I like the range bracket similarities. For mech something similar could work, as having the range can be nice. For example, armageddon with all rapid fire weapons gives you nice firepower at 18". I do think that 18" makes them the best at mech and pretty much forces that loadout.

Mech is a bit different than infantry. I've not tried it much, as I'm more of an infantry + tank guy lately, but mech is a very tactical playstyle. It is all about positioning and knowing when to save infantry and when you sacrifice them. Very much play to the objectives, as your fire power is lower but your speed is higher. You can't just rush your army in and hope to kill everything with a good dismount, unless you have local superiority.

A mech brigade with 6 infantry chimeras, backed up by russes and sentinels, is a nice core of a mech force.


Regarding Mech-Infantry, do you think Special Weapon Squads would be preferable to Infantry Squads? You can get 3 plasmaguns for a pretty low price, and can have two such squads in each Chimera.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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I play Vostroya, so hell yes you better believe I bring all the 30" range plasma guns.

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 vipoid wrote:
Regarding Mech-Infantry, do you think Special Weapon Squads would be preferable to Infantry Squads? You can get 3 plasmaguns for a pretty low price, and can have two such squads in each Chimera.


Well it depends on what your overall force is. Infantry squads are good because they fill up troop slots, unlike SWSs. So if you are going for a mech battalion/brigade you need to bring some troops. SWSs could work if you are just bringing some to support a foot guard list. Also, SWSs need more officers to get order coverage.

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