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Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

I have a box from France with Bauhaus and I think Capitol plastic armies, the original core book and the three (or 4) books from the box. Planning on painting the armies and finding and/or recruiting players. I also have the Mutant Chronicles 3rd ed. RPG core book.

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





that other army is Imperial, should be 40 imperial regulars and 40 bauhaus ducal militia. I play but am not in Aus or NZ :(
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

yea bummer, yep that sounds right - Imperial and Bauhaus.

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut



uk

Saw an article in my gaming mag on this genre...what a messed up history of a game

 
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

totally, they screwed up the AU/NZ distribution so that I'm like one of a very few people in NZ who own the game.
Closest gaming group is Woolongong, AU. as far as I know.
Paul Bonner and Bill King are top class creators though.
Modiphius did a great job re-energising the world.
But resurrection died, ironically.

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in ca
Dangerous Duet






I heard prodos was discontinuing the game and making a new one called Starcide.

 
   
Made in au
Anti-Armour Swiss Guard






Newcastle, OZ

They don't have the Aliens licence anymore, either.

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

That is not dead which can eternal lie ...

... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
 
   
Made in de
Primus





Palmerston North

So you want to play 1st and 2nd edition?
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




 StygianBeach wrote:
So you want to play 1st and 2nd edition?


I'm not sure the OP realizes he has an earlier edition of the game. For what it's worth, I much preferred that edition's rules.
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

apparently i have the first edition rulebook and 2nd edition box set. I also have the 3rd edition rpg core rulebook.

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Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut





We have really strong community here in Poland that plays old school Warzone, they have their own updated rules and stats for armies, ofc based as much as it needed on original rules, just few changes were made. Had an occasion to paint few of this old bastards for our players. It's all about sentiment
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





 MoWriter wrote:
apparently i have the first edition rulebook and 2nd edition box set. I also have the 3rd edition rpg core rulebook.


not a problem, the ducal militia work fine as hussars the imperial regulars are still good or could be your trenchers.
   
Made in ca
Hauptmann





Warzone was one of my first gaming loves after taking my first hiatus from Warhammer 40k in the late 90's.

2nd Edition was the one available at the time, but my hobby store had the 1st Edition books back in the used section and I recognized a lot of art from my favourite 2000AD artists and snapped it all up.

I've played 1st, 2nd, Ultimate, and Resurrection and for my money... never got any better than 1st (but with a bunch of caveats).

1st Edition is the easiest of the editions to pick up. The rules are simple to understand and they play well at the platoon-scale. It sort of sits between Rogue Trader and 40k 2nd in terms of feeling like a wargame with a lot of RPG-style mechanics built in. Where it falters is the same place a lot of 90's wargames do, and that is balance. 1st Edition needs a good amount of house-ruling to avoid some of the possible craziness, but with some firm agreements in place I find the more streamlined rule system just makes for a smoother game.

2nd Edition is probably my least favourite edition. It made things more complex and it changed a lot of the background for the worse (I'm kind of glad Target folded before they could move those setting changes over to Mutant Chronicles, it remains beautiful and untouched by the taint of WZ 2nd and the version Modiphius published hews closer to the original background with very little taken from WZ 2nd Edition) but it didn't actually make the game much more balanced. It also stripped a lot of the unique flavour from the game (especially int he weapon section). They also adopted a 40k style army book release style, and the power creep was palpable between the core book lists and the full army lists. Had it lived past the first two army books, this might have eventually been fixed... but it did not. But for all the sins 2nd Edition brought along... it had one of the best mini-lines of all time (of all time!). Kev White's work on the 2nd Edition WZ line is nothing short of amazing. Each mini bleeds that 2000AD diesel-punk style and even today I tend to prefer them over the more modern Prodos minis in a lot of cases. So I can forgive it for that.

After 2nd dropped dead, there was a long dark winter before a little one-man show called Excelsior Entertainment picked up WZ and Chronopia. The designers plan was to first publish one big omnibus edition for each of them before moving on to developing things past that. In terms of background it was some kind of weird otherworld amalgam of 1st and 2nd Edition because the aim for Ultimate was to provide stats for every mini ever produced for Warzone (and the same for Chronopia). It was a laudable endeavour and the rules did some neat things (the terrain rules are some of the most involved I've ever seen in a wargame and while they probably add to much complexity, they really helped sell some of MC/WZ planetary romance roots), but where it fell down was it just took too bloody long to release. Years and years of delays on both the Chronopia and UWZ manuals ended up costing Excelsior the license. But those two books represent the most complete single-book versions of both properties so they are kind of worth having as a historical curiosity even though the rules feel a lot clunkier than either 1st or even 2nd edition.

Finally, there was Prodos's ill-fated attempt. To be fair, the actual game itself wasn't terrible. The card mechanics were kind of extraneous (but reminded me a lot of the army special rules in 1st and Strategy Cards in Warhammer 40k 2nd edition... so I kind of liked the idea) and it needed a few more dev passes to sort out some loopholes. But the rules themselves were much closer to 1st Edition in terms of general complexity (although the statlines have a bunch of stats that felt kind of tacked on) and it mostly hewed close to the Warzone/Mutant Chronicles background pre-2nd which was nice.

If Prodos had stuck with WZ and established it better instead of going on to AvP and rogering themselves with a ton of bad decisions, it easily could have become the best edition we've seen. But sadly it was left incomplete and in need of more time in the oven.

So as it stands, 1st Edition is still the best way to play, but it does need some house ruling and cleaning up.

For my money, I hope Modiphius end up grabbing the license for Warzone as well since their work on Mutant Chronicles was absolutely stellar (and I'd love it if MC could get a revised edition to use an iteration of 2d20 closer to the Conan rule set). They did a great job updating the background while keeping the charm that the original setting had. Out of all the companies that have handled it since Target died, they've done the most for it (and considering Target were the ones who made 2nd Edition Warzone, I'd say Modiphius officially has a better track record with regards to the setting now as well).

But yeah, if you can find the other supplements for Warzone 1st Edition (scans are actually pretty easy to find if you can't find used copies) then give it a whirl. It is like what 40k would look like if it proudly wore its cribbing of 2000AD material on its sleeve instead of hiding it behind thick black paint and turned-up goth music. For my money, it is the more fun setting that still lets you play as a jacked up space marine with a chainsaw bayonet whose primary role is to kill extra-dimension demon-zombie hordes. Come for the beautiful Bonner and Bisley artwork, stay for the unapologetic large firearms, shoulder pads and 80's action movie style.
   
Made in jp
Battleship Captain






The Land of the Rising Sun

 Ronin_eX wrote:

1st Edition is the easiest of the editions to pick up. The rules are simple to understand and they play well at the platoon-scale. It sort of sits between Rogue Trader and 40k 2nd in terms of feeling like a wargame with a lot of RPG-style mechanics built in. Where it falters is the same place a lot of 90's wargames do, and that is balance. 1st Edition needs a good amount of house-ruling to avoid some of the possible craziness, but with some firm agreements in place I find the more streamlined rule system just makes for a smoother game.


Wz 1st ed was my entry to the scifi wargaming.

Those Blood Beret Heroes with 5 actions, 4 wounds, firing a Nimrod with one action, and a 50% chance of recover a wound...

That said you forgot the collectible WZ that should not be named by Fantasy Flight Games; changing art styles was understandable, but the different scales between the prior editions and the FFG version killed it.

M.

Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





 Miguelsan wrote:
 Ronin_eX wrote:

1st Edition is the easiest of the editions to pick up. The rules are simple to understand and they play well at the platoon-scale. It sort of sits between Rogue Trader and 40k 2nd in terms of feeling like a wargame with a lot of RPG-style mechanics built in. Where it falters is the same place a lot of 90's wargames do, and that is balance. 1st Edition needs a good amount of house-ruling to avoid some of the possible craziness, but with some firm agreements in place I find the more streamlined rule system just makes for a smoother game.


Wz 1st ed was my entry to the scifi wargaming.

Those Blood Beret Heroes with 5 actions, 4 wounds, firing a Nimrod with one action, and a 50% chance of recover a wound...

That said you forgot the collectible WZ that should not be named by Fantasy Flight Games; changing art styles was understandable, but the different scales between the prior editions and the FFG version killed it.

M.


almost, but not quite as awesome as pretorian stalker cheese
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

I'm going to read all these new messages asap.
(edit: all caught up now)

man if only we could all get together and play!

but I found this info you guys and it's legit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2wsuDFXUKY&fbclid=IwAR2kzSCg8FQzefJMbBdkWqw_dvUhOrb26R5dzyyugCUAgsOOzPWi-S4q-uo

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Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in ro
Winter Guard



London

 MoWriter wrote:
I'm going to read all these new messages asap.
(edit: all caught up now)

man if only we could all get together and play!

but I found this info you guys and it's legit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2wsuDFXUKY&fbclid=IwAR2kzSCg8FQzefJMbBdkWqw_dvUhOrb26R5dzyyugCUAgsOOzPWi-S4q-uo


Holy crap, from Target to Paradox to Excelsior to Prodoss to these guys (res Nova) who don't even have a launched game to their name yet, I fully expect the next edition of Warzone to be launched by someone on this forum...
Regardless, I'm stoked to try this out and will be trying it out with my existing, large collection of minis...
   
Made in pl
Horrific Hive Tyrant





New video about new WZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5331&v=L2wsuDFXUKY&feature=emb_logo
   
Made in ca
Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine




Vancouver, British Columbia

I'm super-excited for this next version. My only worry is that it doesn't seem to be a true action point system like 1st–3rd edition where you could spend your APs as you wish. It seems like you'll be more limited in the actions you choose like the Prodos versions. Regardless I'm going to give this edition a go.

But yeah, 1st edition and UWZ are my favorites (probably in that order).

   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

I'm keen to set up some games maybe April next year at Upper Hutt or Lower Hutt library - pm me if you're keen.

I'm keen to play some MtG, maybe Rage CCG, Blood Bowl, 40k skirmish and Mutant Chronicles.

byo food and drink for breaks. I want to setup a website but for now, I just want to see if we can meet for a few games.

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

Google warzone eternal by bran c p Steele (tales from a professional nerd on YouTube) and Res Nova for the latest - they do have a FB group.

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in jp
Battleship Captain






The Land of the Rising Sun

I wish things moved faster. I just hope that the pandemic didn't stop the latest WZ iteration dead on the water.

M.

Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." 
   
Made in nz
Mindless Spore Mine




New Zealand

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/resnova/warzone-eternal

Michael B. aka Polydina Flynt
http://polydina.com 
   
Made in jp
Battleship Captain






The Land of the Rising Sun

Here we go again! WZ is a cursed game but I'll join in everytime, the fluff is so good.
I won't putting the amount of money I did the last time but given the chance I'll see if I can get a few big boys.

M.


Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." 
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran





It should be going live on the 17th last I read. And yes, I will be buying in for anything Imperial to start with.

I ended up passing on the Chronopia KS but this one will always get some money out of me.

And as someone joked two years ago that the next edition could be launched by someone in this forum - If I had the money to lose I would gladly spend two years working on this IP.
   
Made in gb
Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant





North-East England

Good article with pictures of painted miniatures on the this forum.

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=136682.0

   
Made in es
Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer






I'd buy 3d files of the minis, that's more or less where I stop nowadays

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Made in jp
Battleship Captain






The Land of the Rising Sun

It wouldn't be a bad idea to offer some items in digital form at least. If I just want the rules it's going to be 25$ + 35$ of postage to Japan... not a very compeling offer to join the KS. If I were to join at a heavier level the postage might become 50% or more of the money I will have to throw to the KS.

M.

Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.

About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." 
   
 
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