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2018/12/15 22:11:53
Subject: [2000] - Blood Angels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hi everyone.
I'm new back to 40k since 5th edition, and have been working on a semi-competitive list.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
UPDATED LIST:
Battalion Detachment (+5 CP)
HQ- Captain (124pts)
-Angels Wing (Jump Pack)
-Thunder Hammer
-Storm Shield
-Warlord (Artisan of War)
HQ- Sanguinary Priest (86pts)
-Jump Pack
HQ- Librarian Dreadnought (142pts)
-Force Halberd
-Furioso Fist
-Storm Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Flyer- Stormraven Gunship (334pts)
-T.L. Lascannon
-Hurricane Bolters
-Stormstrike Missiles
-T.L. Multi-Melta
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (122pts)
- TL Lascannon
-Storm Bolter
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (122pts)
- TL Lascannon
-Storm Bolter
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (116pts)
- TL Assault Cannon
-Storm Bolter
= 1241pts
Vanguard Detachment (+1 CP)
HQ- Lemartes (100pts)
Elites- Death Company (248pts)
-10 DC w/ Jump Packs
-3 Thunder Hammers
-7 Boltguns and Chainswords
Elites- Sanguinary Guard (337pts)
-9 Sanguinary Guard
-Death Masks
-4 Power Fists (36)
-4 Infernus Pistols (28)
-5 Encarmine Swords (60)
-5 Angelus Boltguns (15)
Elites- Sanguinary Ancient (78pts)
-Power Fist
-Angelus Boltgun
-Death Mask
= 763pts
TOTAL= 2001pts.
Possible Changes:
- Standard of Sacrifice.
-Tacticals/ Intercessors.
-Elites- Vanguard Veterans (266pts)
-10-man w/ Jump Packs
-7 Power Weapons
- 3 Thunder Hammers
- Storm Shields
Again, any advice or changes would be appreciated.
Thanks
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2018/12/16 21:06:56
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2018/12/16 11:09:58
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Your list has many errors. A battalion gives +5 CP, and a vanguard +1 CP. For example captn slamguinius is 124. Libby dread is 162. Yesterday CA was released, and there are point changes. You should recalculate your list. I wouldnt use three flyers. Makes it easier for your opponent to table you. Flyers dont count for boots on the ground. If you lose all non flyer units you are tabled and lose the game.
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2018/12/16 13:35:00
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:Your list has many errors. A battalion gives +5 CP, and a vanguard +1 CP. For example captn slamguinius is 124. Libby dread is 162. Yesterday CA was released, and there are point changes. You should recalculate your list. I wouldnt use three flyers. Makes it easier for your opponent to table you. Flyers dont count for boots on the ground. If you lose all non flyer units you are tabled and lose the game.
Okay, thanks for the advice.
Libby Dread is 110pts base in CA? So the updated points for that should be right.
I went off of an online copy of CA, please can you help with what points cost are wrong?
Good to know about the flyers. What would you reccomend I replace/ add?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/12/16 13:39:49
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2018/12/16 14:23:02
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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InsTincT_OP wrote: p5freak wrote:Your list has many errors. A battalion gives +5 CP, and a vanguard +1 CP. For example captn slamguinius is 124. Libby dread is 162. Yesterday CA was released, and there are point changes. You should recalculate your list. I wouldnt use three flyers. Makes it easier for your opponent to table you. Flyers dont count for boots on the ground. If you lose all non flyer units you are tabled and lose the game.
Okay, thanks for the advice.
Libby Dread is 110pts base in CA? So the updated points for that should be right.
I went off of an online copy of CA, please can you help with what points cost are wrong?
Good to know about the flyers. What would you reccomend I replace/ add?
You are right, sorry for the confusion. Libby dread is indeed 110 base. I think one stormraven as transport is ok, for the saved points you could max your SG unit, you could add a dev squad, you could add razorbacks(s) with twin AC/twin LC, these serve as transports as well, reducing your deployment count. I would also suggest making the SG ancient your warlord, and give him the standard of sacrifice. This will buff your (maxed) SG unit even more. Captain slamguinius still hits hard, even if he isnt the warlord.
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2018/12/16 17:17:15
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:InsTincT_OP wrote: p5freak wrote:Your list has many errors. A battalion gives +5 CP, and a vanguard +1 CP. For example captn slamguinius is 124. Libby dread is 162. Yesterday CA was released, and there are point changes. You should recalculate your list. I wouldnt use three flyers. Makes it easier for your opponent to table you. Flyers dont count for boots on the ground. If you lose all non flyer units you are tabled and lose the game.
Okay, thanks for the advice.
Libby Dread is 110pts base in CA? So the updated points for that should be right.
I went off of an online copy of CA, please can you help with what points cost are wrong?
Good to know about the flyers. What would you reccomend I replace/ add?
You are right, sorry for the confusion. Libby dread is indeed 110 base. I think one stormraven as transport is ok, for the saved points you could max your SG unit, you could add a dev squad, you could add razorbacks(s) with twin AC/twin LC, these serve as transports as well, reducing your deployment count. I would also suggest making the SG ancient your warlord, and give him the standard of sacrifice. This will buff your (maxed) SG unit even more. Captain slamguinius still hits hard, even if he isnt the warlord.
Thats cool, nw. I didn't know if the points had changed again when CA was officially released
Would you recommend razorbacks/ devastators over predators?
What are your opinions on intercessors/ 5 man tac squads in this list?
And are there any other changes you would reccomend?
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2018/12/16 19:01:32
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Yes, i recommend razorbacks with twin AC/LC over preds, because they serve as tanks and transports. Even an empty razorback with twin LC is 20 points cheaper than a pred with twin LC. One more wound on the pred isnt worth 20 pts. Not a big fan of intercessors, they cant go into razorbacks/rhinos, they cant use JP, they cant deepstrike. Reivers can deepstrike, but they are meh. I would remove one troop choice, you only need three for a battalion.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/12/16 19:04:02
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2018/12/16 19:33:45
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:Yes, i recommend razorbacks with twin AC/ LC over preds, because they serve as tanks and transports. Even an empty razorback with twin LC is 20 points cheaper than a pred with twin LC. One more wound on the pred isnt worth 20 pts. Not a big fan of intercessors, they cant go into razorbacks/rhinos, they cant use JP, they cant deepstrike. Reivers can deepstrike, but they are meh. I would remove one troop choice, you only need three for a battalion.
Razorbacks sound attractive. Tbh, I just added an extra squad of scouts to fill up some points.
Would you reccomend tacticals at all? Or just min spend on scouts?
UPDATED LIST:
Battalion Detachment (+5 CP)
HQ- Captain (124pts)
-Angels Wing (Jump Pack)
-Thunder Hammer
-Storm Shield
-Warlord (Artisan of War)
HQ- Sanguinary Priest (86pts)
-Jump Pack
HQ- Librarian Dreadnought (142pts)
-Force Halberd
-Furioso Fist
-Storm Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Troops- Scout Squad (65pts)
-Boltguns
-Heavy Bolter
Flyer- Stormraven Gunship (334pts)
-T.L. Lascannon
-Hurricane Bolters
-Stormstrike Missiles
-T.L. Multi-Melta
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (122pts)
- TL Lascannon
-Storm Bolter
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (122pts)
- TL Lascannon
-Storm Bolter
Dedicated Transport- Razorback (116pts)
- TL Assault Cannon
-Storm Bolter
= 1241pts
Vanguard Detachment (+1 CP)
HQ- Lemartes (100pts)
Elites- Death Company (248pts)
-10 DC w/ Jump Packs
-3 Thunder Hammers
-7 Boltguns and Chainswords
Elites- Sanguinary Guard (337pts)
-9 Sanguinary Guard
-Death Masks
-4 Power Fists (36)
-4 Infernus Pistols (28)
-5 Encarmine Swords (60)
-5 Angelus Boltguns (15)
Elites- Sanguinary Ancient (78pts)
-Power Fist
-Angelus Boltgun
-Death Mask
= 763pts
TOTAL= 2001pts.
Possible Changes:
- Standard of Sacrifice.
-Tacticals/ Intercessors.
-Elites- Vanguard Veterans (266pts)
-10-man w/ Jump Packs
-7 Power Weapons
- 3 Thunder Hammers
- Storm Shields
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/12/16 21:07:22
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2018/12/16 21:56:46
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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If you can afford tac squads use them, if not use scouts. Tac squads have a 3+ sv, scouts have 4+sv. You should make the sang ancient your warlord and give him the standard of sacrifice. A very good buff for your SG.
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2018/12/18 10:36:49
Subject: Re:[2000] - Blood Angels
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Regular Dakkanaut
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p5freak wrote:If you can afford tac squads use them, if not use scouts. Tac squads have a 3+ sv, scouts have 4+ sv. You should make the sang ancient your warlord and give him the standard of sacrifice. A very good buff for your SG.
Okay, thanks
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/12/18 10:37:04
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