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2018/12/30 21:24:39
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sorry if this has been done;
I've noticed some units received points breaks in 2017 which have then been omitted in CA 2018.
Are we back to paying the points indicated in the index (or wherever) or are we going to have to carry years worth of chapter approved around with us?
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2018/12/30 21:31:10
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Norn Queen
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nareik wrote:Sorry if this has been done; I've noticed some units received points breaks in 2017 which have then been omitted in CA 2018. Are we back to paying the points indicated in the index (or wherever) or are we going to have to carry years worth of chapter approved around with us?
Which units? I was under the impression that any changes in CA17 were included in CA18 even if they didn't change. In any case, the points from CA17 are totally invalidated. You use only the Codex (or index) and CA18 when it comes to points. The only thing CA17 is "good" for are missions or the other extra gubbins. Broken Sig Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/12/30 21:39:33
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2018/12/30 21:58:25
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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yea all the pts costs are carried over, it would be super confusing if not.
ca17 ofc useful for the missions and if ye interested in the other content.
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2018/12/31 06:09:35
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No they aren't all carried over. Or at least I can't find the carried over point costs for the orks index options...
Buggies back to 44 points base?
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2018/12/31 06:24:02
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Norn Queen
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nareik wrote:No they aren't all carried over. Or at least I can't find the carried over point costs for the orks index options... Buggies back to 44 points base?
That's a good catch. They did not bring forward the Ork Index points changes from CA17 to CA18. I guess until GW get around to errataing their book of errata (again), all the changes made to the Ork Index from CA17 are null and void. Any units not updated by the Codex (i.e. Skorchas, Warbuggies, and Wartrakks) revert back to their original index points costs. CA18 Page 124 wrote: If a unit or item of wargear does not appear in any of the tables below, continue to use the points values for it that are listed within the most recently published book for that Faction
"The most recently published book for that Faction" when it comes to the legacy Skorchas, Warbuggies, and Wartrakks option is the Index - Xenos 2. Yet more proof GW are moving towards invalidating the indexes for matched play, IMHO.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/12/31 06:24:56
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2018/12/31 06:39:11
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Though arguably CA 2017 is a more recently published book of that faction than index xenos ii?
Regardless, I'm updating my FA/elite slot fillers to be codex only. Gotta keep the book bloat down!
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2018/12/31 07:42:18
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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...something that has never been hinted at, stated or alluded to and is in fact just your personal preference, BCB. GW have said absolutely nothing about binning the Indexes. Just stahp...
The Designers Commentary says to use the “most recently published points”. So for an Index the most recently published points would be in CA2017 if they’re not in CA2018. This is in conflict with the CA2018 quote you provided, for those who take everything 100% literally, but nowt new there. I don’t believe there is a “CA2017 doesn’t count” diktat, but if I’ve missed it be cool to know. And anyway, if there are omissions they can be added back in the warranty period errata if people email them to the FAQ Hotline.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/12/31 07:42:35
 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2018/12/31 07:49:24
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Norn Queen
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nareik wrote:Though arguably CA 2017 is a more recently published book of that faction than index xenos ii?
Regardless, I'm updating my FA/elite slot fillers to be codex only. Gotta keep the book bloat down!
It call comes down to what "the most recently published book for that Faction" actually means, because GW simply cannot write rules. Perhaps we'll get an answer some time in 2032.
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2018/12/31 14:33:55
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can some one please pm me the faq hotline email?
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2018/12/31 15:29:00
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Lieutenant General
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There's a sticky with the FAQs at the top of this forum...
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2018/12/31 15:48:21
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thank you
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2019/01/14 14:49:09
Subject: Ca 2017 still relevant?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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http://bit.ly/2TOm6G1
Well, the buggies/skorchas/trakks got points costs FAQed into CA2018!
Thanks for helping me highlight the problem to the FAQ team Ghaz.
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