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Hello! Just a semi-casual list I made. Not going to be playing tournaments but am going to be playing against my brothers who play Orks, Deathguard and Dark Angels.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [29 PL, 423pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

+ Elites +

Astropath [1 PL, 26pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

+ Fast Attack +

Hellhounds [6 PL, 101pts]
. Hellhound: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Inferno Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [37 PL, 576pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Knight Commander Pask [13 PL, 232pts]: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons
. Command Executioner: Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

Tank Commander [12 PL, 172pts]: Heavy Bolter
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

Tank Commander [12 PL, 172pts]: Grand Strategist, Heavy Bolter, Relic (Cadia): Relic of Lost Cadia, Warlord
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

++ Total: [66 PL, 999pts] ++

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So you have 4 threats on the table? This is your list?
   
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What are you saying? If you want to criticize it, please do it directly.
   
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds




I think what he means is you don’t have enough threats for enemies on the table. Three Russes and a Hellhound being your only means of killing something that’s not a light Infantry blob. You also desperately need more lascannons. The one on Pask won’t cut it I’m afraid, Guard at a lower points level gets more difficult as like ‘Nids and Orks, they really come into their own at 2000pts+. The pistols on your commanders are also kind of a waste. Their purpose is orders, not killing things. You also don’t want them accidentally killing themselves with their own pistol. I’d ditch one of the mortar teams as well and try to invest in more anti-tank, like a lascannon team. The Russes are decent at anti MEQ, your mortar team and Hellhound are great vs GEQ and Pask has TEQ covered, (even though I thing his plasma sponsons might be a little redundant at this points level but leaving them isn’t an awful idea, he’s the best place for Plasma in the Codex).

Ultra-Ultramarines are a great idea. 
   
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I switched out the plasma pistols for boltguns for them and the sergeants. About the heavy weapon squads, do you mean that I should switch out one of the two squads for lascannon teams? Where do I get those points from? Even if I switch out only one of the teams for lascannon thats still 15 points that I do not have. I suppose I could remove Pask's sponsons but I feel like I will need the plasma more than a lascannon.
   
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Your list is fine as-is. Swapping mortar teams for lascannon teams is a terrible idea, they're super fragile so their only real defense is to stay out of sight and lob mortars. If they were lascannon teams they'd just be immediately targeted and killed. I'd suggest you consider making one of your other tanks Pask. He is going to be a very tempting target, if you put him in your most expensive tank he's doubly tempting. By putting him in a cheaper tank, losing the executioner will mean pask survives, and losing pask means the executioner survives, instead of losing both at once.

I'd also make the Warlord an Infantry Commander so it can't be shot so easily, and consider using Old Grudges instead of Grand Strategist. If your opponent brings a Super Heavy to this fight, you'll want to be able to re-roll wounds against it.
   
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Yeah I changed warlord to a company commander, I think I'll stick with grand strategist for the time being until my brother gets Mortarion.

Sounds like a solid idea to shift the power level a bit by giving plasma tank to a tank commander. Lowering the plasma tanks damage a little bit seems worth if it can stay alive longer.

Edit: Anyone know what model to use for company commander? I was thinking of using the commisars I got from the start collecting box, but they don't really have boltguns or chainswords

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epaemil wrote:
Yeah I changed warlord to a company commander, I think I'll stick with grand strategist for the time being until my brother gets Mortarion.

Sounds like a solid idea to shift the power level a bit by giving plasma tank to a tank commander. Lowering the plasma tanks damage a little bit seems worth if it can stay alive longer.


You don't even have to lower the damage of it, if you have a target that "must die", hit it with the other tank commander first, then use overlapping fields of fire to give it +1 to hit, and it hits as hard as pask ever would have.
   
 
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